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#17501 Sakae

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:52

Respectable placing for Michael. I am relieved that car seems to be competitive. Now tires, race, and the season starts.



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#17502 cheapracer

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:56

Quite clear Mercedes won;t be fighting with Williams/Sauber/FI. Could Cheapracer clean up the aisle of humility, thank you.


Of course I'm pleased to see MS in 4th but It would be hypocritical of me to veer from my stance that qualifying means very little compared to race - tomorrow is a another day and it's the important one.

Mind you I don't expect Master in this thread anytime soon :lol:

#17503 Tarzaan

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:18

Remember: Melbourne is not the strongest track of Schumi, and last year here was the weekest performance of Merc.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:36

Who else thinks that 4th position is better than 3rd? Obviously he's on the racing line and can be positioned for much better corner entry for T1 than Grosjean. Hopefulyl he will get past him immediately so he can chase up the Mclarens.

#17505 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:38

Remember: Melbourne is not the strongest track of Schumi, and last year here was the weekest performance of Merc.

Well, he only won 4 times there....

#17506 Tarzaan

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:38

Who else thinks that 4th position is better than 3rd? Obviously he's on the racing line and can be positioned for much better corner entry for T1 than Grosjean. Hopefulyl he will get past him immediately so he can chase up the Mclarens.



Me.

#17507 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:44

Remember: Melbourne is not the strongest track of Schumi, and last year here was the weekest performance of Merc.


Lol he's won here 4 times? So I reckon he'll be good.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:00

Fantastic performance, i have had my champagne on ice for 2 years now waiting for the podium. Maybe this weekend we get to open it.

So good to see Schumi up there!

#17509 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:03

Does anyone know that website that allows you to see all sector times, in each quali session?

Thnx in advance :up:.

Edited by zyphro, 17 March 2012 - 11:03.


#17510 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:05

That'll be http://www.fia.com/e...s/on_event.aspx but it's not there yet.

#17511 Richardc

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:07

Good stuff today. We all know Rosberg would have been close or possibly ahead on a better lap, but for the first time in a while i think Schumacher had more in reserve aswell - so at the moment at least, the fears of him slipping further back due to a tighter field are gone.

#17512 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:07

That'll be http://www.fia.com/e...s/on_event.aspx but it's not there yet.


Ah right.

I remember seeing a site going along the lines of "mclaren-f1" around here somewhere, which showed laptimes and whatnot?

Edited by zyphro, 17 March 2012 - 11:08.


#17513 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:11

Ah right.

I remember seeing a site going along the lines of "mclaren-f1" around here somewhere, which showed laptimes and whatnot?

You're right, I saw it too yesterday, but foolishly I forgot to bookmark it and can't remember in which thread I saw it... :(

#17514 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:13

You're right, I saw it too yesterday, but foolishly I forgot to bookmark it and can't remember in which thread I saw it... :(


Hmm.. I'll keep looking and let you know when I've found it lol.

#17515 BRK

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:17

@Ruf: it's been there for a while, under Media Centre>Timing Information.

http://www.fia.com/e...ges/timing.aspx

#17516 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:18

Thanks BRK. :up:

#17517 Massa_f1

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:19

Well, he only won 4 times there....


True. I would still class it as one of his weaker tracks though. Apart from the 4 wins. He has often struggled. Even in the Ferrari days.

#17518 Tarzaan

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:24

Lol he's won here 4 times? So I reckon he'll be good.



I said that because I think if they/he is so good here imagine what ha can do in tracks which suits him more;)

But I1m worried about Herbert.

Edited by Tarzaan, 17 March 2012 - 11:24.


#17519 TheBunk

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:25

Im extremely happy and I just wanted to say: Hello, Mark Hughes!!! and your 80%!!!

Michael Schumacher :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

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#17520 Lelouch

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:32

Finally, a day to smile as a Schumi fan. :-)
I think he will have a good year ( i don't expect miracles ofc ) but tbh the most important thing for me is whether this season convinces him to stay for 2013. F1 without him makes me feel like a stray dog.
OT: I think Ferrari may want to get Ross and Michael back :p

#17521 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:35

OT: I think Ferrari may want to get Ross and Michael back :p

Luca di is slapping himself each morning ever since 2007 but he's too a stubborn ass to admit it.


#17522 LiJu914

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:38

Magic 8-ball:
Don´t ask me why, but somehow i expect his front-wing to fall off in the 1st corner tomorrow...







#17523 Lelouch

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:41

Luca di is slapping himself each morning ever since 2007 but he's too a stubborn ass to admit it.


:rotfl:

Magic 8-ball:
Don´t ask me why, but somehow i expect his front-wing to fall off in the 1st corner tomorrow...

:rotfl:

#17524 F1Champion

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:41

Luca di is slapping himself each morning ever since 2007 but he's too a stubborn ass to admit it.


QFT. :up:

#17525 TheBunk

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:43

Luca di is slapping himself each morning ever since 2007 but he's too a stubborn ass to admit it.


To be honest, without Montezemolo, Schumacher would probably still be retired.

#17526 F1Champion

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:45

Nice to see schumi with his best quali in a merc. He will be starting on the dirty side. Hope he can maintain 4th into turn 1 and then take on grosjean.


Yeah I was hoping for P3, because of the dirty side of the track, but the margins are so tight. I think there is a straight line advantage so Michael will have to stay close.

#17527 F1Champion

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:47

To be honest, without Montezemolo, Schumacher would probably still be retired.


I was thinking more about Ross. He could of kept him but wanted an Italian team manager. It didn't make sense at the time given RB was technical director and probably closest to JT and it would have been a natural progression.

#17528 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:48

To be honest, without Montezemolo, Schumacher would probably still be retired.

Without Montezemolo Michael would be probably retired today (not at all sure though), but Ferrari would have packed 3-4 more WDC's and WCC's with Michael, Ross, Jean and co.

#17529 ivand911

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:51

Who else thinks that 4th position is better than 3rd? Obviously he's on the racing line and can be positioned for much better corner entry for T1 than Grosjean. Hopefulyl he will get past him immediately so he can chase up the Mclarens.

You mean 4th place is on the left side? If this is the case it is good.

#17530 mani1

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:00

OT: I think Ferrari may want to get Ross and Michael back :p


I can only wish MSC somehow goes back to Ferrari for 2013 and then retires. Schumacher and MGP never made sense and never will

#17531 LiJu914

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:00

You mean 4th place is on the left side? If this is the case it is good.


No it isn´t.

#17532 Crazy Ninja

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:01

Great to see the old master back at the front where he belongs :up: :up: Hope he has a clean race to a podium finish!

#17533 ivand911

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:03

No it isn´t.

So, then it is not on the racing line.


#17534 Urawa

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:03

"I already felt it during the first laps (at Silverstone). The nature of the car fits me better. I can feel it better, can place it how I want to.
You can see it with the steering movement. It´s about half as much as with last years car! The window where the balance switches is very small, that´s a good sign.
Finally I´m sitting in a real race car. You can trust its reactions. It gives you confidence."

http://www.auto-moto...to-4575482.html

Edited by Urawa, 17 March 2012 - 12:04.


#17535 F1Champion

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:05

Finally, a day to smile as a Schumi fan. :-)
F1 without him makes me feel like a stray dog.


Totally agree, I thought I could support another driver after 2006, but couldn't. Kimi and Vettel come close but Michael produced some magical and awe inspiring drives and I just don't get that from others on the grid.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:08

So, then it is not on the racing line.


Inside line is more important into T1.

#17537 Sakae

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:09

Michael is on a dirty side, as I understand it, and P4 is mixed blessing, I think. If he had P3, McLaren would plan a strategy to block him. Now they have to worry about each other and an unknown element in P3. With little bit of luck Michael can take an advantage of potential chaos, unless P3 will strive to stay third instead racing for P2, and take him out in the first corner because of some excessive defense of his position. Michael cannot also forget boys behind him, altghou last year he has proved, that he can start well. It's an interesting situation.

#17538 LiJu914

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:09

So, then it is not on the racing line.


Not according to my definition of the term at least. To be clear: MSC starts from the right side.

#17539 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:11

"I already felt it during the first laps (at Silverstone). The nature of the car fits me better. I can feel it better, can place it how I want to.
You can see it with the steering movement. It´s about half as much as with last years car! The window where the balance switches is very small, that´s a good sign.
Finally I´m sitting in a real race car. You can trust its reactions. It gives you confidence."

http://www.auto-moto...to-4575482.html

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#17540 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:12

Michael is on a dirty side, as I understand it, and P4 is mixed blessing, I think. If he had P3, McLaren would plan a strategy to block him. Now they have to worry about each other and an unknown element in P3. With little bit of luck Michael can take an advantage of potential chaos, unless P3 will strive to stay third instead racing for P2, and take him out in the first corner because of some excessive defense of his position. Michael cannot also forget boys behind him, altghou last year he has proved, that he can start well. It's an interesting situation.


If he gets an excellent start then he can have a punt into the inside line, at which logically grosjean would have to yield (if he hasn't passed him by then already).

#17541 ivand911

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:17

Lets hope for points tomorrow and double digits if he can.  ;)

#17542 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:18

Lets hope for points tomorrow and double digits if he can. ;)


Agreed, let's just hope he has a great start where he doesn't lose a front wing >.>.

#17543 ivand911

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:20

"I already felt it during the first laps (at Silverstone). The nature of the car fits me better. I can feel it better, can place it how I want to.
You can see it with the steering movement. It´s about half as much as with last years car! The window where the balance switches is very small, that´s a good sign.
Finally I´m sitting in a real race car. You can trust its reactions. It gives you confidence."

http://www.auto-moto...to-4575482.html

Bob Bell :up: :up: :up: Now other two guys need to make sure it will stay that way.


#17544 zyphro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:20

Bob Bell :up: :up: :up: Now other two guys need to make sure it will stay that way.

Yep, in-season development will be very interesting indeed.

With the season being as long as it is, one can only hope things will get better from this solid foundation.

#17545 Longtimefan

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:21

Very happy at the moment although I worry about having grosjean alongside him.

I hope Schumi does one of his lightning starts and gets past quickly.

Go Schumi!

#17546 Ruf

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:24

Michael is on a dirty side, as I understand it, and P4 is mixed blessing, I think. If he had P3, McLaren would plan a strategy to block him. Now they have to worry about each other and an unknown element in P3. With little bit of luck Michael can take an advantage of potential chaos, unless P3 will strive to stay third instead racing for P2, and take him out in the first corner because of some excessive defense of his position. Michael cannot also forget boys behind him, altghou last year he has proved, that he can start well. It's an interesting situation.

Thing is that he's starting on the dirty line. I'm not worried about Grosjean or the boys behind him, they're veterans (well, most of them anyway) and I also believe that Grosjean won't be too enthusiastic or overdramatic. Louis and Jenson won't clash with eachother, not yet anyway. First 4 cars will get away cleanly through the first corner, in whatever order.

I'm actually more curious what will happen between Vettel and Weber in corner 1....

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:24

Michael is on a dirty side, as I understand it, and P4 is mixed blessing, I think. If he had P3, McLaren would plan a strategy to block him. Now they have to worry about each other and an unknown element in P3. With little bit of luck Michael can take an advantage of potential chaos, unless P3 will strive to stay third instead racing for P2, and take him out in the first corner because of some excessive defense of his position. Michael cannot also forget boys behind him, altghou last year he has proved, that he can start well. It's an interesting situation.


It's especially interesting to watch out how his starts look so far up the grid.

Given the average of places he made up starting around P10 starts last year, he should lead after the first lap - but we know it doesn't quite work like that. Or does it?

Whatever, I think with Hamilton and MS so close to eachother, there will always be a bit of excitement, one way or the other. :clap:

#17548 LiJu914

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:27

It's especially interesting to watch out how his starts look so far up the grid.

Given the average of places he made up starting around P10 starts last year, he should lead after the first lap - but we know it doesn't quite work like that. Or does it?

Whatever, I think with Hamilton and MS so close to eachother, there will always be a bit of excitement, one way or the other. :clap:


So, you hope they collide?  ;)


#17549 Sakae

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:34

Based on his position of the grid, and knowing squat about long runs, I have Michael for P3 to P5 at the end of tommorrow's race.

Edited by Sakae, 17 March 2012 - 12:36.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:34

Im extremely happy and I just wanted to say: Hello, Mark Hughes!!! and your 80%!!!

Michael Schumacher :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:


Schumi (and not Schuey as Hughes always uses) at 80% with a decent car is better than 99% of the rest of the field.