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#18251 Pamphlet

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 17:49

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Schumacher's ever had a collision with his own team-mate, has he?

Really good qualifying by Schumacher. Outshone by Rosberg, but 2nd place on the grid is very good, and as always the points come on Sunday, not Saturday. Let's hope the tyres hold up and that Mercedes' degradation does not haunt both Schumi and Rosberg.


Only time that comes to mind is Abu Dhabi 2010, when Rosberg and Schuey tangled ever so slightly, causing the latter to spin and Liuzzi to run into him.

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#18252 Diablobb81

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 18:09

:eek: Mercedes cheating Schumacher :eek:

The team gave Nico a "last minute" set up change, not offered to Michael.


Let's wait and see tomorrow if it was the right thing to do.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 19:52

Only time that comes to mind is Abu Dhabi 2010, when Rosberg and Schuey tangled ever so slightly, causing the latter to spin and Liuzzi to run into him.

There was no tangle.

#18254 Tardis40

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 20:05

Give credit where it's due - Rosberg did a perfect lap.


#18255 Massa_f1

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 22:18

Nervous for tomorrow. I know i will probs be disappointed as usual ( going off past results) come the end of the race. However having Schumacher start on the front row for the first time in nearly 6 years makes me very happy.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 22:34

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Schumacher's ever had a collision with his own team-mate, has he?

Really good qualifying by Schumacher. Outshone by Rosberg, but 2nd place on the grid is very good, and as always the points come on Sunday, not Saturday. Let's hope the tyres hold up and that Mercedes' degradation does not haunt both Schumi and Rosberg.

I dont think qualifying nearly 6 tenths slower than your teammate can be considered really good qualifying, its a chasm in F1 terms

Only time that comes to mind is Abu Dhabi 2010, when Rosberg and Schuey tangled ever so slightly, causing the latter to spin and Liuzzi to run into him.

Schumacher spun himself off with too much right foot

#18257 Lelouch

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 22:50

Nervous for tomorrow. I know i will probs be disappointed as usual ( going off past results) come the end of the race. However having Schumacher start on the front row for the first time in nearly 6 years makes me very happy.

I am really anxious too. I don't think i will be able to sleep much actually. I really want Schumy to have a proper trouble-free for starters. He deserves at least that his start of the season has been as good as possible. Also, when we see him up there we expect him to win it we are still used to those days and let's not write them off for tomorrow, although the tyre behaviour probably needs a lot more work. I really hope the W03 delivers in terms of race pace sooner or later, if Schumy becomes a regular podium contender it will feel like a time travel. Tonight i feel i am once again the kid waiting for Schumy to go out tomorrow and show them who is the best. I know lots of things are different, i am not daydreaming but this romantic feeling is really one of the most beautiful essences of being a fan of a legend who comes back from retirement.

#18258 Longtimefan

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 22:54

I am really anxious too. I don't think i will be able to sleep much actually. I really want Schumy to have a proper trouble-free for starters. He deserves at least that his start of the season has been as good as possible. Also, when we see him up there we expect him to win it we are still used to those days and let's not write them off for tomorrow, although the tyre behaviour probably needs a lot more work. I really hope the W03 delivers in terms of race pace sooner or later, if Schumy becomes a regular podium contender it will feel like a time travel. Tonight i feel i am once again the kid waiting for Schumy to go out tomorrow and show them who is the best. I know lots of things are different, i am not daydreaming but this romantic feeling is really one of the most beautiful essences of being a fan of a legend who comes back from retirement.


Awesome post and you echo my feelings 100%

Go Schumi!

#18259 Dan333SP

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 23:02

I am really anxious too. I don't think i will be able to sleep much actually. I really want Schumy to have a proper trouble-free for starters. He deserves at least that his start of the season has been as good as possible. Also, when we see him up there we expect him to win it we are still used to those days and let's not write them off for tomorrow, although the tyre behaviour probably needs a lot more work. I really hope the W03 delivers in terms of race pace sooner or later, if Schumy becomes a regular podium contender it will feel like a time travel. Tonight i feel i am once again the kid waiting for Schumy to go out tomorrow and show them who is the best. I know lots of things are different, i am not daydreaming but this romantic feeling is really one of the most beautiful essences of being a fan of a legend who comes back from retirement.

:up: :up: :up:

Same here, I've followed F1 rabidly since 1997 but having MSC on the front row brings back memories of waking up as a middle schooler in the late 90s at 7 am hoping to see him take the fight to Mclaren. It's like a time machine to my childhood!

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#18260 monaco

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 23:45

If he wins this one, it will be like Suzuka 2000 all over again!

A few tears ... and grinning to myself for about two weeks :cool:

#18261 Bartel

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:01

If McLaren doesn't win I want Michael or Kimi to take it. More so Kimi for the simple fact that he drove for McLaren, and Schumacher broke my heart many a time lol, it would be good to see either of them win it though, but still, it would be alot better for a McLaren driver to come through with the goods.

@monaco, 2000 still stings!

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#18262 exmayol

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:49

Come on Michael, the podium finish is long overdue!!! Would not mind a victory but we all know MGP is not quite there yet.

#18263 SeanValen

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 04:38

Maybe MS decided to stick with his setup, thinking about the race. It will be lottery tomorrow, who knows what is wrong and what is right? Also team maybe want to widen their tyre window. One of them will be more luckier.
Or it was Nico and his engineer decision to change something, don't know if they need permission to do it. We don't know what exactly happen.


I think if we had Sunday warm up session, then MS could go for qualifying without having to worry about race set up too much.

And generallly I think qualifying needs to be kept separate from the race, but because you can't touch the car after qualifying, these cars are not really being pushed by everyone the same way on qualifying day, unless you have a car that can do everything reasonable well, but not everyone has that.

I kinda wish the FIA gave Sunday warm up another life again, we don't need to create more lottery, we need less of it because we have fast drivers and teams.

#18264 repeatoffender

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:40

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Schumacher's ever had a collision with his own team-mate, has he?

Really good qualifying by Schumacher. Outshone by Rosberg, but 2nd place on the grid is very good, and as always the points come on Sunday, not Saturday. Let's hope the tyres hold up and that Mercedes' degradation does not haunt both Schumi and Rosberg.



No they have never collided. I was just putting some scenarios which might hinder the chances of comparison.

#18265 ivand911

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:13

27,7 and 31,7 ,what set up MS have???

#18266 Diablobb81

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:16

The wrong one? If his tires won't last much longer than Nico.

#18267 Richardc

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:17

Not a very good one as far as it looks like - getting caught by button now whil Ros pulls away.

#18268 Richardc

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:26

devastated

#18269 Tarzaan

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:27

Áááááá



Merc :down:

#18270 Lelouch

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:27

:-(

#18271 Diablobb81

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:28

Can't believe this.

#18272 Augurk

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:30

My god.

#18273 BRK

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:31

Just great. At least some things never change, 3 years and they're still ruining his races.

#18274 ClubmanGT

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:31

Ugh

#18275 Spa95

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:32

The positive is that their qualifying speed is not down to 'super' DRS - they do have genuine speed! Now they just need to sort out the tyre operating window problems.

Edited by Spa95, 15 April 2012 - 07:32.


#18276 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:32

So first they bring him in one lap too late and then they don't put the wheels on right. Geeze.

#18277 Scotracer

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:32

Not surprised. I got up today thinking someone HAD to go wrong.

#18278 Sof1

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:33

This is just stupid. I hope Ros wins the race now!

#18279 Igorr

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:33

The positive is that their qualifying speed it's not down to 'super' DRS - they do have genuine speed! Now they just need to sort out the tyre operating window problems.

nothing is positive, they lock out the front row grid, and then they screw up the strategy and the pits.... :down: :down: :down: :down: for mercedes.....

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#18280 spacekid

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:34

Very dissapointing all round. Michael couldn't live with Rosberg today, but I think he was racing the McLarens for race position.

Oh well, there are better tracks to come Rosberg is just too good in China. At least the Mercedes is looking much more promising.

#18281 Spa95

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:34

nothing is positive, they lock out the front row grid, and then they screw up the strategy and the pits.... :down: :down: :down: :down: for mercedes.....

My my, you are a cheery chap. :)

#18282 Longtimefan

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:34

Gutted and going back to bed in disgust.
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#18283 Lelouch

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:36

Very dissapointing all round. Michael couldn't live with Rosberg today, but I think he was racing the McLarens for race position.

Oh well, there are better tracks to come Rosberg is just too good in China. At least the Mercedes is looking much more promising.

Yes it seems that we will see him where we want soon. Too bad that first win is probably gonna come from Rosberg though.. : /

Edit: Oops, now i noticed the 2 mclarens :p

Edited by Lelouch, 15 April 2012 - 07:37.


#18284 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:37

Third year of cock ups.

Another field day for the trolls.

#18285 Massa_f1

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:37

I am ****ing furious. Something always has to wrong with Micheals car don't it. It just dosent matter what happens. Bah Disgusted with that.


#18286 scarletf12002

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:37

Really gutted but I can't get over how calm he was, just part of the race?! Think we can all learn about how a real team player should behave! I can't think of any other driver who would have reacted that way!
still gutted was so excited today! :confused:

#18287 chrisaix

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:38

Why it has to be michael always! F$@k!

#18288 Richardc

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:39

He was more calm than me and i'm sure most of us. ****.

#18289 thrillercd

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:39

Always same sh!t happens :(

#18290 Diablobb81

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:40

He couldn't get back to the pits. Already damage to front suspension.

He probably would have finished right behind Nico.

Edited by Diablobb81, 15 April 2012 - 07:40.


#18291 Lelouch

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:40

He was more calm than me and i'm sure most of us. ****.

totally :mad:

#18292 z2z

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:42

Why it has to be michael always! F$@k!

same here ... darn guys :evil:

#18293 chrisaix

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:43

He couldn't get back to the pits. Already damage to front suspension.

He probably would have finished right behind Nico.


But a podium is possible, he was holding the mclarens nicely.

#18294 Scotracer

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:45

But a podium is possible, he was holding the mclarens nicely.


But he came out of the pits behind Button

#18295 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:47

As I've said, he most definitely should have stopped on the same lap as Button. Other than that, the medium tires seem to be the right choice.

#18296 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:07

He was more calm than me and i'm sure most of us. ****.

:) yeap
probably that's why he's stayed in this game for so long

#18297 BRK

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:11

Two things- one, I hope Mercedes stop screwing his races and stop making retarded mistakes. It's always Michael that's at the receiving end, however, I've lost count of how many times this sort of thing has happened to him in the last two seasons. That's more than just sheer incompetence, maybe they get too excited if MS is around, I don't know. :rolleyes: In 2010 and 2011 it didn't matter much, but now the stakes are higher and they're losing a shitload of points.

Second- I wish they (Michael's side of the garage) would stop experimenting with radically different setups for the cars. It can pay off in some cases but it's simply not worth it in this era when performance is so dependent on tyre behaviour and even a degree delta can make a massive difference. He was losing half a second to Rosberg and the McLarens in the first stint, maybe it would have improved if the temperatures had gone up slightly but that was the race lost right there. Completely unnecessary and very frustrating.

#18298 Tarzaan

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:14

Very dissapointing all round. Michael couldn't live with Rosberg today, but I think he was racing the McLarens for race position.

Oh well, there are better tracks to come Rosberg is just too good in China. At least the Mercedes is looking much more promising.



Schumacher usually was qiucker in the fisrt period of races, so anything could happen, but didn't...

Edited by Tarzaan, 15 April 2012 - 08:22.


#18299 Richardc

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:17

That's what i was thinking, Schumacher usually drops back from Ros - then pulls back hard and when they were that close - beats him. Schumacher would have stayed on a 3 stopper, with a high chance of win.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:48

First of all Michael failed in this race because he have chosen conservative (or however you call it) setup. He was just slow and had no chance against Rosberg. And then team failed during the pits.