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#19451 Diablobb81

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:43

Of course not, Michael was preferring not to drive in Q3 - that was part of why Lauda was upset with Schumacher. Michael is not even trying...


Because it made so much sense for Nico.

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#19452 aditya-now

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:43

So what lap is Schumacher's race going to be ruined? I'm feeling 2nd lap, all 4 tyres flying off.


Guys, your predictions border on the catastrophic! Do you not have any faith left in the great old German?

#19453 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:44

Of course not, Michael was preferring not to drive in Q3 - that was part of why Lauda was upset with Schumacher. Michael is not even trying...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

#19454 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:45

Guys, your predictions border on the catastrophic! Do you not have any faith left in the great old German?

We have no faith in the kamikaze drivers surrounding him or the great old German team.

#19455 Goron3

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:48

Guys, your predictions border on the catastrophic! Do you not have any faith left in the great old German?


Read again kid, they are referring to him having another reliability issue/the team making another mistake. Hope that helps.

Also, wow after reading your posts you must REALLY think Webber and Button are rubbish? :|

Just praying something doesn't go wrong with his car today! Rosberg has never beaten Michael at this track I believe so will be interesting if he manages to find some pace.

#19456 ivand911

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:53

MS was not very optimistic on RTL.

#19457 spacekid

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:58

We have no faith in the kamikaze drivers surrounding him or the great old German team.


I actually think thats a bit unfair. I'm certainly not worried about Kobayashi Seb, Rosberg, Button or Webber. Or even Grosjean! (Whos miles up the road anyway). What happened at Malaysia was a small error from a rookie to F1 in very tricky conditions. Its just racing.

I'm hoping for a decent start then hopefully Michael will be able to apply some pace.

Watching the BBC coverage right now and all they are saying is the drivers who do well will be the ones that todays temperatures suit the tyres best for their particular car setup during the race. Yesterdays pace and setups could easily count for nothing. Tyres and the prevailing conditions at the time appear to be the only deciding factor. Rendering all of this a bit moot.

Edited by spacekid, 13 May 2012 - 11:59.


#19458 Urawa

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:00

Softs :wave:

#19459 Sakae

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:01

Softs :wave:



All of them.

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#19460 Pamphlet

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:22

5 in a row! FML

Edited by Pamphlet, 13 May 2012 - 12:23.


#19461 spacekid

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:23

Balls. I take it all back. I have a feeling I'll be blaming Senna for this one.

Although all the damage is to the back of Senna and the front of Michael. What the hell was that?

#19462 Sof1

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:23

Thats stupid! I give up watching this season.

#19463 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:24

Bye Bye and Goodnight.

#19464 Stallknecht

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:25

:mad: :mad: :mad:

#19465 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26

Worst season ever for MS.

I don't think he'll renew his contract. This project has been a waste of time.

#19466 Massa_f1

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26

Guys its over. I cant watch this anymore. Every weekend is beginning to hurt :(

#19467 Goron3

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26

Looking at the replay it looked like Bruno hit the brakes too early. Ofc his tyres were shot but why was he still on the track? Sigh.

#19468 mkoscevic

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26

Mid 2000 anyone?

#19469 RedBaron

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26

Did Senna weave back onto line? If not Schumacher will be given a 10 place grid penalty for causing an avoidable collision and that will be Monaco ruined...

#19470 Longtimefan

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26

Bruno FFS.!!!!

**** this sport.



#19471 Pamphlet

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:27

Schumacher's fault on this one.

#19472 Tarzaan

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:27

Senna what an idiot. Changing his line i na breaking zone with shitty tyres...

#19473 chrisaix

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:27

Wtf!! Michael was so surious, he called senna an idiot. Strike 5! f@$k!

#19474 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:28

Nah-huh, Senna gave a little jink to the right ffs.

#19475 Scotracer

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:29

I'm done.

#19476 RedBaron

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:29

I've seen it again. Senna absolutely switched up his line into the braking zone. Along with braking very early he caused the incident.

Schumacher was right. Bruno Senna = idiot.

#19477 spacekid

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:29

Senna weaved in the braking zone. Michael had to jink to the left, and lost the ability to brake.

If Senna had continued to take the corner to the right instead of moving left and slowing up there wouldn't have been a collision, but listening to the BBC guys it sounds like Michael will get a penalty.

Edited by spacekid, 13 May 2012 - 12:31.


#19478 Raelene

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:30

Defintely MSC's. Fault. Was screemingf @ senna earliee with his blocking. But MSC was at fault for raming him

#19479 Stallknecht

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:30

I'm blaming Senna on This one. He doesnt deserve to stay in the sport!!

Edited by Stallknecht, 13 May 2012 - 12:30.


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#19480 mkoscevic

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:30

Senna's mistake.

Senna changed the line under braking and Schumacher was coming down with much more speed on the wings of DRS and tried to avoid Senna, but it was way too late.

#19481 zelpre

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:31

This is it. I'm done with F1, this is sh!t.

#19482 MCh000

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:31

Looked like Senna was giving outside and Michael was going to the left, but suddenly Senna decided to move to left and Michael was trying to move to the right but too late.

#19483 RedBaron

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:31

Senna without any double is to blame. Schumacher tried to avoid the door seemingly being closed illegally late, but ran out of time to avoid him when Senna broke extremely early.

#19484 Konsta

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:32

Senna's mistake.

Senna changed the line under braking and Schumacher was coming down with much more speed on the wings of DRS and tried to avoid Senna, but it was way too late.


Somewhat so. Senna moved twice but OTOH MS was way too late in braking.

#19485 Scotracer

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:32

5 races, 2 points.

Worse than 2010 or 2011!

#19486 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:32

5 races, 2 points.

Worse than 2010 or 2011!

Not his fault, we continue to watch because we know his performances show more.

#19487 chrisaix

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:32

Yeah, senna weaved back a little and lifted off early. Just saw it on the replay, michael wont be that mad if has a part on the accident.

#19488 eoin

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:33

Senna's mistake.

Senna changed the line under braking and Schumacher was coming down with much more speed on the wings of DRS and tried to avoid Senna, but it was way too late.


Dont think so. You can move back but you must leave enough room for the driver on the outside. The problem is that Schumacher probably thought that Senna was going to move back fully onto the racing line so went to the inside, but then realised Senna was just sticking to the centre of the track and it was too late for Schumacher to do anything about it.

5 races, 2 points.

Worse than 2010 or 2011!


And if he gets a penalty for Monaco then that's another right off.

Edited by eoin, 13 May 2012 - 12:34.


#19489 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:33

Mercedes' strengths were in the first 3 races of the season and they ballsed it up 3 times for Schumacher. I feel their advantage is now gone and Schumacher will get 'dominated' by Rosberg again who just gets on with it. No wonder MS is frustrated.

#19490 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:35

Somewhat so. Senna moved twice but OTOH MS was way too late in braking.

What was that w*nker doing out on shredded tyres?

#19491 Longtimefan

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:36

If Michael gets a penalty for Monaco I swear I'll quit watching this fiasco...




#19492 Wade

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:38

I love you Michael. I really do. I love watching the sport because of you.

BUT OMFG. Not in my whole life have I seen something like his season thus far. NOTHING. This is one for the ages. Honestly at this point, I AINT EVEN MAD. I aint even sad. This is just comical.

He's definitely not gonna renew that contract. And he'll be gone from the sport I love to watch, soon.

What a shame.

#19493 dav115

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:38

Schumacher will likely throw in the towel at the end of this year, after which I don't think I've got enough interest in this sport to carry on following it. DRS+shitty engines+shitty tyres has killed it for me.

#19494 mkoscevic

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:39

Dont think so. You can move back but you must leave enough room for the driver on the outside. The problem is that Schumacher probably thought that Senna was going to move back fully onto the racing line so went to the inside, but then realised Senna was just sticking to the centre of the track and it was too late for Schumacher to do anything about it.


You can't change lines under braking. Schumacher couldn't avoid Senna. Schumacher didn't assume Senna will go back fully on the racing line as he clearly counted that line will be empty for him... until Senna changed his mind. By then, all Schumacher could do was to try to change line to the inside one, but it was impossible to do.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:40

This is what happens when you firstly don't even set a time in Q3 and thus get stuck a place or two (or more) down teh grid than you'd otherwise be, then secondly screw the strategy and end up in the pack.

Surely it was obvious Schumacher would be stuck in the Grosjean/ Senna/ Rosberg "pack" pitting when he did, especially when Rosberg was clearly traffic bound after his stop a lap earlier. New tyres are a significant advantage *if* you can actually use them - Once again strategy and quick thinking seem to be notable by their absence on the pit wall for Mercedes (also evident by starting Schumacher on softs).

The shunt looked mostly Senna's fault, as he braked very early (the closing speeds between teh two cars was really quite something) and also jinked in the braking area, as if to move left then not really doing so. Easy to misunderstand wheere he was going, but perhaps he was also correcting for the car moving under him on those worn out tyres.

Definitely *not* all Schumacher's fault and cause to once again leap around with Jordan glee, or smug DCness, but then I've come to expect no more from our good old BBC.

#19496 Massa_f1

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:42

This is his worst season ever. As a fan of his i have now had enough of him being back in the sport (to painful to watch) Guys lets be honest. What good is ever going to come of it? I think nothing.

#19497 Longtimefan

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:42

Schumacher will likely throw in the towel at the end of this year, after which I don't think I've got enough interest in this sport to carry on following it. DRS+shitty engines+shitty tyres has killed it for me.


Me too..



#19498 ivand911

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:43

I am not mad. What was that strategy? On soft after the pitstop?

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:44

Any replays of the incident available?

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#19500 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:45

I am not mad. What was that strategy? On soft after the pitstop?

Yeah, god knows what that was about too.