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#20351 Romulan

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:20

Michael, Glückwünsche auf Ihrer Stange!

(Sorry if the translation is not proper.)

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#20352 ivand911

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:25

Hamilton praises Schumacher's efforts after topping times in Monaco qualifying
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99905

H_Kovalainen: Congrats Schumacher great lap by him today, shame he loses it because of the penalty but that's life. Still good effort

Mark Webber says Monaco Grand Prix qualifying was 'Michael Schumacher's day' as former champion loses pole to penalty
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/99887

#20353 MortenF1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:26

We will never forget that 69th pole.


Awww!

Seriously, it is strange that it doesn't get it's rightful place in the statistics, as they should show who actually was fastest.

#20354 1Devil1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:27

Michael, Glückwünsche auf Ihrer Stange!

(Sorry if the translation is not proper.)

http://ets.freetranslation.com/


Michael, Herzlichen Glückwunsch zur schnellsten Runde ;)

Pole was translated to bar, it's quit funny because your translation can be interpreted as "Michael congratulations for your (best friend down in your pants :lol: )

normally you use the english word pole position, german has no 100% correct translation

Edited by 1Devil1, 26 May 2012 - 17:38.


#20355 BetaVersion

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:33

Don´t forget that these other 8 drivers were driving the best car of the grid, the Marcedez,. No wait...


Anyway, good job by Michael, i think beeing 0.1 s faster than Rosberg is a the ultimate proof that he is the Monaco Master. Can´t think about any other driver who could do the same.

:rotfl:

Bitter time.

Mclaren have the best mech grip. Everybody says they have the best car. It's Hamilton that isn't so fast as people think.

Old MSC was 0,15s than Rosberg, who is rated as very good qualifier by many, but Webber also showed that Mercedes wasn't, by any means, the best car.

Who made the pole was the driver, not the car.

#20356 Romulan

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:37

Michael, Herzlichen Glückwunsch zur schnellsten Runde ;)

Pole was translated to bar, normally you use the english word pole position, german has no 100% correct translation


Thank you! Your version is now in my permanent library.

#20357 jj2728

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:42

Just watching the BBC feed of qualifying and Coulthard was amusing. It must be quite difficult for Coulthard to witness his contemporary be the fastest in F1 at Monaco, with such such a tight grid of talent, while he's in the commentary box and otherwise driving mid-to-back of the pack in DTM. I'm sure he was taking some consolation in Schumi's lack lustre record to date. This pole must be difficult for him. I can imagine him fidgeting more and feeling his earlobe more than normal.


I seriously doubt that.

#20358 ali_M

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:44

I seriously doubt that.


Of course you do!! :wave:

Edited by ali_M, 26 May 2012 - 17:45.


#20359 Massa_f1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:47

Just watching the BBC feed of qualifying and Coulthard was amusing. It must be quite difficult for Coulthard to witness his contemporary be the fastest in F1 at Monaco, with such such a tight grid of talent, while he's in the commentary box and otherwise driving mid-to-back of the pack in DTM. I'm sure he was taking some consolation in Schumi's lack lustre record to date. This pole must be difficult for him. I can imagine him fidgeting more and feeling his earlobe more than normal.

Coulthard's behaviour at the end of qualifying in response to Schumi's success, as well as the comments of so many fellow retired drivers like Brundle, Berger and others really call for serious success on Michael's part. I'm seriously hoping that he keeps on it and succeeds for them. They really aught to show more respect and support for his comeback. But they've so disappointingly allowed their own egos to get in the way and that should not be allowed to go unchecked.

You go Michael!! :clap: You show them! :lol:



To be honest the Sky crew praised his lap and Brundle sounded genuinely sad about the grid pen. It was more the BBC team (mostly DC's behavior and comments i found irritating)

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#20360 d246

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:49

Quali summed up MS perfectly. Fast as hell but with a whiff of controversy. Great to watch but a bit of a shame too.

#20361 ali_M

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:49

To be honest the Sky crew praised his lap and Brundle sounded genuinely sad about the grid pen. It was more the BBC team (mostly DC's behavior and comments i found irritating)


I didn't watch the Sky feed, but my mentioning Brundle wasn't about his response to Michael's pole, but his comments in general since Michael's comeback. He has often not been fair, IMO, with his ego getting in the way quite often. The upside with having past drivers commentating is that we get the technical insight, but the other side is that their egos too often get in the way, especially when their own contemporary is still out there driving. It's not easy for them to commentate while that's happening and they do have their lapses, but too often. Coulthard's today was quite bad. He admittedly calmed down by the time Michael was getting out of the car.

Edited by ali_M, 26 May 2012 - 17:51.


#20362 Urawa

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:57

Michael said 1 stop strategy is the way to go, Vettel wants to try it too.

#20363 aliasj

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:58

Very interesting FACTS.

Schumacher's FIRST ever pole. 1994, Monaco.
Schumacher's LAST pole. 2006, Monaco (Penalty, sent to back of grid).
Schumacher's comeback pole. 2012, Monaco (Penalty, 5-places).

Maybe it is a sign of things to come.

#20364 BetaVersion

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:59

http://www.dailymoti...umi-monaco-2012

motor racing lovers, I just found the pole lap onboard :clap:

The old master just spanked everybody in S2 and then, to humiliate the youngsters, he went one-handed into the fastest corner of Monaco, done at approx 200kmh :rotfl:

This is F1 I like, drivers making a difference through skill and not only for knowing the tires better and etc :D

#20365 Snic

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 17:59

Very interesting FACTS.

Schumacher's FIRST ever pole. 1994, Monaco.
Schumacher's LAST pole. 2006, Monaco (Penalty, sent to back of grid).
Schumacher's comeback pole. 2012, Monaco (Penalty, 5-places).

Maybe it is a sign of things to come.


Yeh you have a new date for the LAST ever pole sentence now :p
Anyone know whe nthe last time a 43 year old put a car on pole?

Edited by Snic, 26 May 2012 - 18:00.


#20366 Dolph

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:10

Yeh you have a new date for the LAST ever pole sentence now :p
Anyone know whe nthe last time a 43 year old put a car on pole?



1 Italy Nino Farina 47 years, 79 days 1954 Argentine Grand Prix
2 Argentina Juan Manuel Fangio 46 years, 209 days 1958 Argentine Grand Prix
3 Australia Jack Brabham 44 years, 17 days 1970 Spanish Grand Prix

#20367 Skinnyguy

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:13

Great job from Michael, really hoping Mercedes to remain competitive on long runs. Michael deserves a good result after all the misfortune.

#20368 1Devil1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:13

http://www.dailymoti...umi-monaco-2012

motor racing lovers, I just found the pole lap onboard :clap:

The old master just spanked everybody in S2 and then, to humiliate the youngsters, he went one-handed into the fastest corner of Monaco, done at approx 200kmh :rotfl:

This is F1 I like, drivers making a difference through skill and not only for knowing the tires better and etc :D


Nice lap and amazing one handed through the fastest corner - love it! But he definitely lost time in last corner maybe a tenth?

#20369 Pits

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:14

http://www.dailymoti...umi-monaco-2012

motor racing lovers, I just found the pole lap onboard :clap:

The old master just spanked everybody in S2 and then, to humiliate the youngsters, he went one-handed into the fastest corner of Monaco, done at approx 200kmh :rotfl:

This is F1 I like, drivers making a difference through skill and not only for knowing the tires better and etc :D


Wow, what a great lap that was!!
Thanks for posting, have been looking for this all afternoon... :up:

#20370 ali.unal

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:18

Very interesting FACTS.

Schumacher's FIRST ever pole. 1994, Monaco.
Schumacher's LAST pole. 2006, Monaco (Penalty, sent to back of grid).
Schumacher's comeback pole. 2012, Monaco (Penalty, 5-places).

Maybe it is a sign of things to come.

Michael's last pole was in French GP at Magny-Cours back in 2006, July. Monaco GP was before that.

Schumi said he was going to try one-stop race, which is the most sensible thing to do, I reckon given that Vettel almost managed it to work last year. However, Webber and co might try two stops in order to be in the safe side. It will be interesting how tyres will behave as almost noone had done a long-run comparison on Thursday. It's open.

#20371 Urawa

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:21

Michael's last pole was in French GP at Magny-Cours back in 2006, July. Monaco GP was before that.

Schumi said he was going to try one-stop race, which is the most sensible thing to do, I reckon given that Vettel almost managed it to work last year. However, Webber and co might try two stops in order to be in the safe side. It will be interesting how tyres will behave as almost noone had done a long-run comparison on Thursday. It's open.


According to Hembery the primes should last 50 laps, while options 35 laps.
Quite doubt the latter but we´ll see.

Edited by Urawa, 26 May 2012 - 18:22.


#20372 Dan333SP

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:27

Just wanted to poke in and say how much I enjoyed Michael turning back the clock this morning, even if he won't lead the field away tomorrow. Haven't jumped up in amazement watching F1 since the 2008 Brazilian GP, makes me remember how much more fun the sport is when your favorite drivers do well. Here's to hoping he rides a good race result into Canada, where I think he'll have his best shot at a win all year (plus I'll be there cheering for him).

#20373 exmayol

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:27

GO MICHAEL! School them haters!!!

Edited by exmayol, 26 May 2012 - 18:28.


#20374 Menace

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:37

Well done Michael!!! :clap:

Briliant lap, not quite them lottery now I presume! :p

Looks like the Mercedes drivers and Webber are the guys to beat this weekend, the Mercedes certainly looks good around Monaco!

#20375 my_own_shadow

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:44

Anyone know when the last time a 43 year old put a car on pole?


And by the way this Michael's performance changes the history books a bit: only three drivers, namely Emilio Guiseppe Farina (47 years, 79 days at 1954 Argentine Grand Prix), Juan Manuel Fangio (46 years, 209 days at 1958 Argentine Grand Prix) and Sir Jack Arthur Brabham (44 years, 17 days at 1970 Spanish Grand Prix), were older when they took the pole.

Moreover today Michael has become the oldest polesitter in "modern" Formula One World Championship, which started in 1981 (as originally it was World Driver's Championship in 1950-1980). Previous record was hold by Mario Gabriele Andretti, who took pole at 1982 Italian Grand Prix being 42 years, 196 days old.



#20376 H2H

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:49


Sadly I could not see the old great man turning back the clock. It is a shame that he got those stupid penalty in Spain.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 18:52

http://img802.images...52615h35m20.jpg
:smoking:

A sample of a pole sitter on the edge:
http://img32.imagesh...52615h33m30.jpg

How to do the Rascasse corner:
http://img651.images...52615h34m01.jpg

Pitty about this oversteer which cost him S3 time:
http://img138.images...52615h34m49.jpg

and this is how you celebrate with a proper finger, Vettel:
http://img842.images...52613h11m44.jpg

#20378 walkindude

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 19:21

Look how close he gets to the wall when one handed through swimming pool.Like a proper boss

#20379 ivand911

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 19:24

Alonso ‘very pleased’ for pace-setting Schumacher
http://www.gpupdate....ing-schumacher/

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#20380 Tarzaan

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 19:46

Michael's last pole was in French GP at Magny-Cours back in 2006, July. Monaco GP was before that.

Schumi said he was going to try one-stop race, which is the most sensible thing to do, I reckon given that Vettel almost managed it to work last year. However, Webber and co might try two stops in order to be in the safe side. It will be interesting how tyres will behave as almost noone had done a long-run comparison on Thursday. It's open.


He also has the pole in hungary, but there he has a time penalty...

#20381 George Costanza

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 19:47

This was Michael's best lap at Monaco since 2000.... Incredible.

Edited by George Costanza, 26 May 2012 - 19:51.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 19:53

That was great to see, I am happy for Schumi. :up:

#20383 Pits

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 19:56

Does anybody know how many fresh sets of tires Schumacher and the opposition has?

#20384 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 20:19

Does anybody know how many fresh sets of tires Schumacher and the opposition has?

it doesn't really matter at monaco

#20385 Dolph

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 20:30

I'm celebrating Schum'is best qualy result since 2006 :clap: :drunk: :up: :clap: :up:

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 20:33

Does anybody know how many fresh sets of tires Schumacher and the opposition has?

He said he's one stopping so it makes no difference, unless that's what he wants everyone to think.

#20387 ivand911

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 20:50

I'm celebrating Schum'is best qualy result since 2006 :clap: :drunk: :up: :clap: :up:

:clap: :up:


#20388 Sof1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 20:52

I'm celebrating Schum'is best qualy result since 2006 :clap: :drunk: :up: :clap: :up:



:clap: :up:


Woohooo!! :clap: :up: :up:

#20389 Smile17

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 20:56

You could have bet on Schumi hitting the front again. The win will come soon enough, he will not retire without one. Great lap, but the fact that we had more 'surprises' this season, makes this pole less impressive. Can't deny that.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 21:12

You could have bet on Schumi hitting the front again. The win will come soon enough, he will not retire without one. Great lap, but the fact that we had more 'surprises' this season, makes this pole less impressive. Can't deny that.



I do not agree. All the big boys Hamilton, Mark and Rosberg were strong, we had no odd candidate like perez or maldonado aiming for a good result. I wouldn't say the tires aren't a reason merc is strong here, but their for sure less important than on other tracks. This lap will remembered as great comeback :up:

#20391 my_own_shadow

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 21:15

He also has the pole in hungary, but there he has a time penalty...

Well, not quite a pole (you know that since 2003, when all these silly qualification rules have been initially introduced, to set a fastest time doesn't necessarily meen to be polesitter anymore), but a fastest time throughout the qualifying (during Q2).

So, although his actual Q2 time - 1'18''875 - was the fastest ever time over 4381m Hungaroring circuit, Michael was given a stupid two-second penalty, and his superior lap became a virtual 1'20''875 which didn't allow him to participate in Q3.

And by the way, Schumacher's time was bettered only by Vettel in 2010 with Newey's championship-winning RB6 by just 112 thousands of a second. Till now it is the second ever fastest time over rebuilt in 2003 Hungaroring circuit.

Edited by my_own_shadow, 26 May 2012 - 21:21.


#20392 ali.unal

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 21:18

Woohooo!! :clap: :up: :up:

:love: :up: :up:

#20393 ivand911

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 21:25

MS , Saturday morning:
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From Spain:
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#20394 Snic

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 21:46

1 Italy Nino Farina 47 years, 79 days 1954 Argentine Grand Prix
2 Argentina Juan Manuel Fangio 46 years, 209 days 1958 Argentine Grand Prix
3 Australia Jack Brabham 44 years, 17 days 1970 Spanish Grand Prix


This is what makes the pole so special for me, brilliant stuff thanks

#20395 Muz Bee

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 22:12

Well done to Michael, that was superb and an encouragement to all those fans who kept faith. I stand corrected as the old man takes back ownership of Monaco! With race strategies being so crucial P6 on grid could be good enough for a shot of victory.

My reason for believing top 6 or 8 could win is that the closeness of the field in lap times could keep the field bunched and throw pit strategy into even greater importance. Certainly the tyre management crisis at MB doesn't seem to be in play - like China where they had no problems. And we know what happened there! Maybe they will try for a 1 stop strategy to prevent getting mired behind likely one stoppers like Kobayashi.

#20396 1Devil1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 22:37

Well done to Michael, that was superb and an encouragement to all those fans who kept faith. I stand corrected as the old man takes back ownership of Monaco! With race strategies being so crucial P6 on grid could be good enough for a shot of victory.

My reason for believing top 6 or 8 could win is that the closeness of the field in lap times could keep the field bunched and throw pit strategy into even greater importance. Certainly the tyre management crisis at MB doesn't seem to be in play - like China where they had no problems. And we know what happened there! Maybe they will try for a 1 stop strategy to prevent getting mired behind likely one stoppers like Kobayashi.


That's a good point I wouldn't bet on somebody is pulling a gap in the recent years the fastest cars were in front in monaco and controlled the race. especially this year with abnormality of the pirelli tires I wouldn't surprise to see a train like we have seen in china and than somebody can hit back from further down with a better strategy or pitstop.

Edited by 1Devil1, 26 May 2012 - 22:38.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 22:39

I'm celebrating Schum'is best qualy result since 2006 :clap: :drunk: :up: :clap: :up:


YES!

YES!!

YES!!!!!
YEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:)

My feeling at this moment.

Damn this feels good.

Vindicated!!

Not a track better to have shown this dominance, than at drivers track Monaco.

He can qualify P24 the rest of the year and still say: but I was the quickest in Monaco. I SHOWED THEM HOW ITS DONE!!!!!


WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Edited by TheBunk, 26 May 2012 - 22:42.


#20398 spacekid

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 22:39

One thing I haven't seen mentined on here yet is a safety car. Normally cars slide into a barrier and the marshalls are so good at clearing them it can often be dealt with under waved yellows, so you can't count on them.

I'm kinda hoping to see a 1-stop as I think it could yield a podium, but if a safety car does come up its timing could be critical to a lot of races.

#20399 PorcupineTroy

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 22:45

Just wanted to poke in and say how much I enjoyed Michael turning back the clock this morning, even if he won't lead the field away tomorrow. Haven't jumped up in amazement watching F1 since the 2008 Brazilian GP, makes me remember how much more fun the sport is when your favorite drivers do well. Here's to hoping he rides a good race result into Canada, where I think he'll have his best shot at a win all year (plus I'll be there cheering for him).


Same here! Would love to see him do well tomorrow, but I wouldn't mind him saving his best for Montreal :smoking:


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#20400 Sof1

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 22:57

YES!

YES!!

YES!!!!!
YEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:)

My feeling at this moment.

Damn this feels good.

Vindicated!!

Not a track better to have shown this dominance, than at drivers track Monaco.

He can qualify P24 the rest of the year and still say: but I was the quickest in Monaco. I SHOWED THEM HOW ITS DONE!!!!!


WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :up: :up: :up: :up:


Oh yeah! :drunk: :drunk: :up: :up: :up: :clap: :clap: :clap: