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#2501 ivand911

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 08:21

Do you want to bet on this? There is a poll, you are in the 5%.

Edited by ivand911, 17 June 2010 - 08:24.


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#2502 black magic

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 08:32

what is tough is the claptrap we have had to endure from those who are exploiting his initial struggles.

the likes of coulthard, brundle were never fans and are quick to put the boot in.

fatc was for the first 7 - 10 laps looked very promising and was on the leaders pace and closing.

the slagging he took over massa incident was regretable when the incident was reviewed correctly and quite correctly no action was taken.

michael will be in for next yr but if the car is not a front runner potential then next yr will be his last and he will have to endure his naysayers smuggly basking in their delight they got one over him at last.

then again if he won a race ...

#2503 Cheap Wine Alesi

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:12

It was INTENDED to counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor.

Well, you failed.

#2504 eoin

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:51

Did anyone read the "wonderful" column DC wrote in The Telegraph, comparing Michael Schumacher's comeback to that of Tiger Woods? Sorry but taking a 2 month extension on vacation because you were too humiliated to play golf is not what I would consider a comeback! Gossip and criticism probably sells more newspapers than praise but really comparing Schumacher to Woods is below the belt, in every sense of the phrase! I guess he did stick up for him a bit towards the end, but still added fuel to a fire that didn't need it!

http://www.telegraph...ormer-self.html


DC was a below average driver and he has taken that ability into his career as an f1 analysis. By Turkey the guy still hadn't figured out that pitting later is no longer an advantage.

He broke his FW in first lap. The problem is if he can still change manually angle of the front wing.


A damaged front wing can cause extra drag, as the air isn't moving around the tyre correctly, or reduced downforce to the front and rear as the airflow to the rear of the car has also changed. However damaging his front wing was his own fault...

#2505 ivand911

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 11:25

Yes he have contact with Kubica. Which fault is can't say, Kubica was in front of him. My problem is tire strategy, they trow away 9-th place. Even 8-th , he have enough time 20 laps before end to pit and change the tire with no problem. Like China he stay out on worn tires and result was clear. Don't know who invented this passive strategy, but better go out of 10 place with pit stop and fight than desperately losing places in last laps.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 11:51

I was thinking, during the race, that they kept him on softs for so long in hope of a safety car period which never came.
However then again, on closer inspection it doesn't make too much sense: OK the SC comes and the rest of the pack dives in the pits for tyre changes... leaving MS closer to the lead or even in 1st place.
However in this scenario he's stuck with the same old softs while, on SC restart, everyone else will be passing him left and right (towards the end of the race he was passed by drivers with worn hard tyres, even), so this strategy would have made sense ONLY if the race ended exactly like in Monaco, or thereabouts.
What were the chances for that? Good thing the Merc crew doesn't go to casinos often, they'd lose their shirt on their back in no time at all.


#2507 ivand911

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 11:59

I am sure now that MGP can't believe they did such stupid thing. It was obvious thing to do even looking on live timing. We can math, don't we?

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:26

Does anyone know why, when faced with a rapidly slowing car, they didn't just bite the bullet and go for another set of tyres? Pragmatic decisions like that are what I always considered set Brawn apart from the rest of the fools on the prat perches. Was he perhaps out of softs?

#2509 Clatter

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:30

Does anyone know why, when faced with a rapidly slowing car, they didn't just bite the bullet and go for another set of tyres? Pragmatic decisions like that are what I always considered set Brawn apart from the rest of the fools on the prat perches. Was he perhaps out of softs?


I suspect that it was combination of having used their tyres up in Q and not expecting to be gain any positions by making the change, so they tried to manage with what they had.

#2510 eoin

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:58

I suspect that it was combination of having used their tyres up in Q and not expecting to be gain any positions by making the change, so they tried to manage with what they had.


Did Schumacher even use the SS during qualifying? Even if he did surely they weren't completely used after 1 flying lap on low fuel.

#2511 ivand911

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 13:16

Brawn say they make mistake with strategy, nobody mentioned they were left with no tires.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 13:29

DC was a below average driver and he has taken that ability into his career as an f1 analysis. By Turkey the guy still hadn't figured out that pitting later is no longer an advantage.



A damaged front wing can cause extra drag, as the air isn't moving around the tyre correctly, or reduced downforce to the front and rear as the airflow to the rear of the car has also changed. However damaging his front wing was his own fault...


DC is about 18th in the all time list of GP winners, I don't think you can justifiably claim he was below average.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 15:19

I was thinking, during the race, that they kept him on softs for so long in hope of a safety car period which never came.
However then again, on closer inspection it doesn't make too much sense: OK the SC comes and the rest of the pack dives in the pits for tyre changes... leaving MS closer to the lead or even in 1st place.
However in this scenario he's stuck with the same old softs while, on SC restart, everyone else will be passing him left and right (towards the end of the race he was passed by drivers with worn hard tyres, even), so this strategy would have made sense ONLY if the race ended exactly like in Monaco, or thereabouts.
What were the chances for that? Good thing the Merc crew doesn't go to casinos often, they'd lose their shirt on their back in no time at all.


After his final pit stop he was a minute behind the leader (Webber) so there was no way he would have been able to make much. In fact, Alguersuari was the only one who would have dropped behind him at that point if everyone had pitted at that moment. Alguersuari finally pitted on lap 42.

Halfway around Schumacher's final stint, he was 18,3 seconds behind Rosberg which was about the time pit stop takes. After that the gap started to grow by few seconds per lap.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 16:52

vs kubica was marginal.

against massa he defended his line once then moved wide for turn. massa was never in front or alongside. schumacher made one move. no incident

just cause brundle cant stand schumacher and reads it consistantly that way shouldnt remove the evidence for ourselves. note it was massa's front wing that he lost. not sideboards etc etc.



I don't know if others have mentioned this but Massa had been battling hard moving up through the backmarkers throughout the race due to his crash at the start. We were sitting at the hairpin and Massa made good contact with the back of Sutil's car on lap 53. It was enough to sent numerous bits of carbon fibre flying. I watched the race on TV last night and couldn't see the bits flying but it was very clear from my seat at the track.

The damage already done to the wing may have weakened it and the contact with Schumacher just finished the job. Massa may have had other contact as well due to his aggressive battling through the field.

#2515 Collective

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 17:02

DC is about 18th in the all time list of GP winners, I don't think you can justifiably claim he was below average.

Many below average drivers have lucked out getting a good car for some seasons. Truth is, David had the best car in many seasons (most notably a McLaren in 98 and 99) and failed miserably, like any other below average driver would. He didn't even get to the point where he COULD get the championship, like Eddie Irvine at least did.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 17:25

I don't think Ross Brawn is giving Michael the best strategic tools, or the right type of car, to do what he wants to do (or to even adapt). Putting MS on those option tyres with a view to going that long was ridiculous, and I think Michael did fantastic just to get to the end with them. Ross knew from China that the Merc does suffer with rear tyre wear and subsequent traction loss, but he still thinks it's a good idea to put Michael on those tyres again? Without Tyre-war car specific tyres, Brawn can't do the same tricks with Michael as he could in the past... you need to just make the most calculated calls to first keep track position, then be in sync with those around you to give yourself a chance of racing them...

I applaud MS for making those tyres last as long as they did in the circumstances, and to be robbed of points so late on because of it is cruel. But I do question whether Ross Brawn should shelve his more outlandish ideas for Michael and just concentrate on getting the best out of a normal strategy... it's working for Rosberg...

It's not like they had much choice. Had they put hards he would have to be back to the pits again and lose the time and positions anyway. It was better to just put the softs and hope they would last or a SC period would slow the degradation enough.

The Kubica incident was THE problem in this race. Changed everything for the bad. It was a tough position to hold with the cold tires and all, he should have thought more strategically.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 17:29

Many below average drivers have lucked out getting a good car for some seasons. Truth is, David had the best car in many seasons (most notably a McLaren in 98 and 99) and failed miserably, like any other below average driver would. He didn't even get to the point where he COULD get the championship, like Eddie Irvine at least did.


18th out of about 800 is NOT below average. You may not rate him but that's a fact.

Anyway I realise it's OT.

#2518 Collective

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 17:33

18th out of about 800 is NOT below average. You may not rate him but that's a fact.

Anyway I realise it's OT.

That's exactly what I addressed. He didn't perform above average in the best car, he'd be in some other list called "Championships" in that case.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 17:43

So we've analysed canada to death when it comes to Mr Schumacher but what does Valencia hold for him? Does he even know this track?

And his car? They can't get the f-duct to work and do they have any upgrades? Rosberg seems to be getting the hang of the longer wheelbase Merc and pretty much owned michael in canada...

And any more dubious 'defending' is going to be a problem more and more for the old timer...

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#2520 Collective

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 18:12

So we've analysed canada to death when it comes to Mr Schumacher but what does Valencia hold for him? Does he even know this track?

And his car? They can't get the f-duct to work and do they have any upgrades? Rosberg seems to be getting the hang of the longer wheelbase Merc and pretty much owned michael in canada...

And any more dubious 'defending' is going to be a problem more and more for the old timer...

Valencia has zero overtaking chances so I don't expect any close calls for Schuey.

He'll be on par or better than Rosberg like in 3 of the past 4 races.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 20:16

That's exactly what I addressed. He didn't perform above average in the best car, he'd be in some other list called "Championships" in that case.



Eh? He was up against MH in a team that favoured MH and still gave him a good run for his money. To even achieve that you have to be performing way above average in the first place. On average he was only a 10th or two off MH (especially in Q) and we all know how MH shaped up against AS and MS.

Perhaps not multiple WC material, but way above average.

Anyway, OT.


#2522 aditya-now

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:59

After Norbert Haug a few races ago, also Nick Fry gives his testimonial for Michael Schumacher:

http://news.bbc.co.u...one/8743930.stm


What Fry does not realize is that his statement:

" In sport, what goes around comes around. For those who have a run of luck, that frequently comes to an end, and the opposite happens."

is quite true, but in a sense that will not please the Mercedes team. Schumacher was lucky for many years, maybe for a longer period of time than any other driver in history.
What if Schumacher┬┤s run of luck has simply come to an end, and the opposite happens now to Schumacher?

At the moment it definitely seems so.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 11:04

So we've analysed canada to death when it comes to Mr Schumacher but what does Valencia hold for him? Does he even know this track?

And his car? They can't get the f-duct to work and do they have any upgrades? Rosberg seems to be getting the hang of the longer wheelbase Merc and pretty much owned michael in canada...

And any more dubious 'defending' is going to be a problem more and more for the old timer...

Is f-duct essential for win at Valencia?

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 06:54

http://www.planetf1....Sekret-TageBlog
Schumi's Sekret TageBlog: El Gloomio :rotfl:

Edited by ivand911, 22 June 2010 - 07:03.


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Posted 22 June 2010 - 09:31

http://www.planetf1....Sekret-TageBlog
Schumi's Sekret TageBlog: El Gloomio :rotfl:


Its really funny! Read the comments underneath, one of the readers thinks its really written by the Schum! :rolleyes:

#2526 aditya-now

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 10:38

Its really funny! Read the comments underneath, one of the readers thinks its really written by the Schum! :rolleyes:


Honestly, the writer uses the verbal style of Schumi quite accurately.
And obviously Schumi mentions the woman he adores (although he refrains from calling her Corinna, rather a donut).
So how can you say it was not written by Schumi?

At least Geek believes so:

"Schumi is really going after everyone he encounters. But these personal grudges he makes public does not suit a personality like him. The small talk insults belittle him further. If the other drivers start writing, they will have similar one against him. Come on Schumi, continue racing and dont let the press push your buttons."

You gotta love it!
:lol:



#2527 korzeniow

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 16:56

Kubica can replace Schumacher in 2011. Check the silly season thread.

#2528 merschu

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 17:25

Here is what Schumi had to say about criticism he received after the Canadian GP.

Hitting back after being asked about the comments, Schumacher said: "I don't take them seriously because there are different elements to Formula One, and one part is showbusiness.

"So I cannot take it seriously as a realistic criticism, so I put it down to showbusiness, and to moan about me sometimes creates some attention, which maybe is to be purposely achieved.

"I'd rather not have it, or have to hear about it or have to answer your question, but that's what it comes down to for me."


Link



#2529 Frans

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 22:35

What people fail to see, is that Mercedes wants results. No excuses. And the next driver for the car #3 is already in the wings. Rumours on the street are that as if Schumi doesn't deliver this weekend he is in serious trouble within the team.


(and Schumi's Sekret TageBlog is hillarious! :lol: )

Edited by Frans, 24 June 2010 - 22:45.


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 00:12

What people fail to see, is that Mercedes wants results. No excuses. And the next driver for the car #3 is already in the wings. Rumours on the street are that as if Schumi doesn't deliver this weekend he is in serious trouble within the team.


(and Schumi's Sekret TageBlog is hillarious! :lol: )

rumour on the street is schumacher got nico pregnant so mercedes want him out of the way pronto , expect heidfield to be replacing rosberg in 2 races time.


rumours we can all do them

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:20

Oh dear! Football manager's curse; Rosberg has offered Schumacher his sympathy and support - He's doomed I tell ye, doomed....

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:17

What people fail to see, is that Mercedes wants results. No excuses. And the next driver for the car #3 is already in the wings. Rumours on the street are that as if Schumi doesn't deliver this weekend he is in serious trouble within the team.

Is there something genuine and linkable behind this? If it were any other driver, I'd think 'yeah maybe it's true' but I'm just not so sure about Schumie. It ought to be the same, but it's not simply because of who he is.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:22

Is there something genuine and linkable behind this? If it were any other driver, I'd think 'yeah maybe it's true' but I'm just not so sure about Schumie. It ought to be the same, but it's not simply because of who he is.


frans talking out of his a$$. what else did you expect?


#2534 Buttoneer

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:33

frans talking out of his a$$. what else did you expect?

A link.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:36

Is there something genuine and linkable behind this? If it were any other driver, I'd think 'yeah maybe it's true' but I'm just not so sure about Schumie. It ought to be the same, but it's not simply because of who he is.


This is garbage for the reason you're suggesting, anyone else maybe but Schumacher, nope.

Would Michael Schumacher 7x Champion with the ego and self belief he has really sign a contract saying he can be replaced mid season. There might be an option at the end of year 1 but to suggest it's any time during the season is a laugh and a half.

#2536 Frans

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:36

Sorry but these sources I am talking about are not able to link, so yeah, it could come out of my a$$ for all what I care what you guy's think.... but consider this: if Schumi doesn't finish this season at Merc, it won't be HIS choice.

Sure the team and PR machine are doing some kind of good business, and an entire German nation is still hoping for the best, but that's just not good enough in Formula One. They know it, Michael know's it but this will be kept outside the media as much as possible.

it's something like the when the PR machine starts telling: " Nothing to see, please move on, Michael is still super good for the team. " but in reality they have a big knife against Michaels back without us all seeying it.


Let's talk again in a race or 2 from now. ;)

Edited by Frans, 25 June 2010 - 09:37.


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:39

Frans: Bookmarked :up:

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:48

Posts deleted. Any chance of posters discussing issues rather than each other?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:13

Bahrain
Rosberg

Australia
Rosberg Schumacher had a first corner collision that put him right at the back

Malaysia
Rosberg Schumacher DNF Mechanical retirement

China
Rosberg

Spain
Schumacher

Monaco
Rosberg Schumacher would have finished ahead of Rosberg with or without the move on Alonso, so really on the battle between Rosberg v Schumacher this should go to Schumacher.

Turkey
Schumacher

Canada
Rosberg Schumacher was ahead of Rosberg, but a puncture from a collision forced him to make an extra pit stop and run on soft tyres to his huge detriment for over 30 laps.


There are no ifs and buts in Formula 1 results, results are final. On the other hand, looking at those performances and pace do you really think Mercedes could chuck out Schumacher and put in Heidfeld (who else would it be?) and suddenly Rosberg would be constantly beaten or matched lap for lap? On that bases alone it absolutely devalues any suggestions that Schumacher will be replaced mid season (not including the fact the poster suggesting it is a few sandwiches short of a picnic), because no-one else they put in his place could really do a better job especially with the current testing limitations.

Results where both cars finished, minus the Monaco penalty (the reason for which didn't relate to Schumacher v Rosberg so can be ignored) leaves us with a score card that looks like this:

Rosberg 2 - Schumacher 4 (if you want to be a little biased and say Schumacher would have finished ahead in Canada and also Australia was it not for puncture or collision)

Rosberg 4 - Schumacher 3 (if you only include when both cars finish and also conclude that Schumacher did finish (cross the line) ahead of Rosberg in Monaco)

That doesn't look too bad to me, no grounds for replacement as far as I can see.

Edited by RedBaron, 25 June 2010 - 10:16.


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#2540 BRK

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:21

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/84726

Schumacher hits back at critics

"I don't take them seriously because there are different elements to Formula 1, and one part is show business.

"So I cannot take it seriously as a realistic criticism, so I put it down to show business, and to moan about me sometimes creates some attention - which maybe is to be purposely achieved.


Same holds good for bedroom ******* and armchair experts confusing mental delusions with rumours,I guess. :lol: Not that anyone takes some posts around here seriously..

Anyhow-I'm surprised he chose to answer the question instead of a blunt reply (which is what it deserved).

#2541 Frans

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:29

Like I said, he still has some races from the team to like "just do it".

Is it then indeed how Schumacher calls it himself "show business" (source:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84726)? So then ... heh, why do these folks need to downplay in the media his so called "form", like Haug: (source: http://paddocktalk.c...ry-132474.html) Fry defending him as well (source: http://www.bbc.co.uk.../606/A66113525)

and I could go on. But I read the sentiment of his fans, his treu believers as well. And in overall, it's declining very very fast.

The louder they need to keep using the media to tell us all is good, the more smoke I see comming from the Mercedes-paddock part. And where's smoke ... ya all know it.

Try to remember his 2009 comback, his non comeback, then he comback and then his cancellation of his 2009-Ferrari comeback.

Some where sure he wouldn't, some KNEW he would, then, they said it themselves, then again, it was nothing in the end. So, believe Michael? Believe his team? Hmmmm, nah, I'd rather won't.
I have spoken real DIE hard fans of him, who would protect his actions on track by walking trough fire, eat glass for it and would defend his actions like a full-sized hooligan, but ... it's gone, he lost the fire they all say. He's only a shadow of his former self, some of them say it with tears in they're eyes. ... they know it, it's over, it's the (how Schumi likes to call it) Show Business what keeps him there in the 1st place. Not his racing abilities, ... if he ever had them in the 1st place one could think.... is racing craft is 'strangely' suddenly down the drain.... well well. All very logical to me, but a lot of people walk with they're eyes wide shut.

How unlikely, I wish Michael much luck, and especially much fun this upcomming race. There must come a point where the logic must go trough that red helmet of his.

I understand he is back in F1 for the show, the money and to secure his childrens future. Who can blame him? This way I'm slowly starting to like the guy.

He at least tries it, but still (in my eyes) fails, and keeps on going. Now ... that could be one of the 1st things ever where I could respect he man for. :up:

#2542 BRK

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:31

:rotfl:

Edit: well,that explains the 'rumours'. Excellent sources there.

Edited by BRK, 25 June 2010 - 10:33.


#2543 arknor

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:40

frans should be a politician they love rumours and if they ever want to make themselfs look good during election times its.

i spoke to XXX about XXXX XXXX said XXXX rather than just coming out and saying its their own opinion.

you didnt speak to any "die hard schumacher fans" you made it up to try and gain credability

#2544 ivand911

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:56

I am feeling Frans is going slowly to the Dark(Schumi) side. Welcome.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:14

Bahrain
Rosberg

Australia
Rosberg Schumacher had a first corner collision that put him right at the back

Malaysia
Rosberg Schumacher DNF Mechanical retirement

China
Rosberg

Spain
Schumacher

Monaco
Rosberg Schumacher would have finished ahead of Rosberg with or without the move on Alonso, so really on the battle between Rosberg v Schumacher this should go to Schumacher.

Turkey
Schumacher

Canada
Rosberg Schumacher was ahead of Rosberg, but a puncture from a collision forced him to make an extra pit stop and run on soft tyres to his huge detriment for over 30 laps.


There are no ifs and buts in Formula 1 results, results are final. On the other hand, looking at those performances and pace do you really think Mercedes could chuck out Schumacher and put in Heidfeld (who else would it be?) and suddenly Rosberg would be constantly beaten or matched lap for lap? On that bases alone it absolutely devalues any suggestions that Schumacher will be replaced mid season (not including the fact the poster suggesting it is a few sandwiches short of a picnic), because no-one else they put in his place could really do a better job especially with the current testing limitations.

Results where both cars finished, minus the Monaco penalty (the reason for which didn't relate to Schumacher v Rosberg so can be ignored) leaves us with a score card that looks like this:

Rosberg 2 - Schumacher 4 (if you want to be a little biased and say Schumacher would have finished ahead in Canada and also Australia was it not for puncture or collision)

Rosberg 4 - Schumacher 3 (if you only include when both cars finish and also conclude that Schumacher did finish (cross the line) ahead of Rosberg in Monaco)

That doesn't look too bad to me, no grounds for replacement as far as I can see.

Ok first up, I tend to agree that it's too early to write the guy off although like I said above I think for any other driver there would be questions asked about his performances and he'd be under enormous pressure to perform or lose his seat. I don't believe he will lose his seat because of who he is, and maybe that's fair, but lets not pretend he is being treated like 'any other' driver.

For Australia I see zero argument for concluding that Schumacher might have beaten Rosberg. Schumacher was slower in every qualifying session. He was desperately unlucky at the first corner and but for that he would definitely finished further up the field I agree, but it's a stretch to get from there to 'could have been ahead' IMO. That argument needs a bit more substance to be convincing.

Monaco completely agree - Schumacher wuz robbed.

Canada I can't agree either. Schumacher was certainly in front of Rosberg but started from a long way back and Rosberg was (IMO) one of the great unsung performances of that race. Considering he was dropped right down by the first corner shenanigans (can't recall what position), to end up 6th was a great achievement. He quietly got on with the job, and ended well.

So anyway, not going to write Schumie off but I don't think the picture is a rosy as you have painted it.

#2546 Augurk

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:36

For Australia I see zero argument for concluding that Schumacher might have beaten Rosberg. Schumacher was slower in every qualifying session. He was desperately unlucky at the first corner and but for that he would definitely finished further up the field I agree, but it's a stretch to get from there to 'could have been ahead' IMO. That argument needs a bit more substance to be convincing.

The main argument would be his position into turn 1. Seeing other incident-free races there's plenty reason to believe that whoever was in front in lap 1 would finish ahead also.

#2547 Frans

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:47

What's up? Ir UrAnus going retrogate into Venus or something, that everybody is so overly optimistic today?

Beware, it's full moon too! :lol:


I wish all a good F1 weekend! Even Schumi this time.

#2548 Buttoneer

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:51

The main argument would be his position into turn 1.

Oh I underatand that but my argument is his position out of turn 1.


#2549 warmandog

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:54

well.
im watching FP2 now. and even im a diehard schumi fan. i must admit it for all
schumi is dead slow comparing to Nico...
i wonder if his contract is based in developing task.
cause i cant imagine that two drivers could be that diferents at same machinery!!!
go schumi go... even you didnt beat nico... do something decent


#2550 eoin

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 13:03

well.
im watching FP2 now. and even im a diehard schumi fan. i must admit it for all
schumi is dead slow comparing to Nico...
i wonder if his contract is based in developing task.
cause i cant imagine that two drivers could be that diferents at same machinery!!!
go schumi go... even you didnt beat nico... do something decent


It's his first time at the track so it is no surprise to see him behind on the first day. However I saw one of his laps on the soft tyres and he is really struggling. Lots of work to do.