I think the official layout looks great and, unlike yours, possible. Anticlockwise circuit wouldn't be possible, no-runoff turn from downhill of Pershing Rd. to bridge would be too dangerous. Besides, the turns you added on the lower section are just meaningless, IMO. First of all, they be impossible to accomodate, and secondly, they'd destroy best overtaking spot. At least at this moment I couldn't imagine any better circuit to that area than the official layout. But yes, for the love of sport I've sometimes posted here my own layout improvement ideas.
But really, before I see racing in NJ, I wouldn't change the circuit.
Thanx for the link. Yes I know you posted some track layout just as others did for those events. I posted an idea or two.
Obviously for New Jersey track the given situation is greatly other than those new track with almost endless budget. I assume that a reason as to why the track MUST be on the public road derives from FOM contract on finance. SPA is a road track as well, but Spa built partly new track, which resulted in the current form. But here in New Jersey the situation must be different in such a way that existing road MUST be used. The two versions revealed with a small differences after the second turn before the bridge, is an enforcement of contractural agreement, I assume. Obviously Tilke made his best effort to convince to alter this corner to bring it to Hudson as close as possible, for which the whoever organiser used his right not to. (My pure assumption) I do not neglect the skill of American advocate to negotiate with that of Bernie's. So given by this frame (that comes from my assumption), it is note worthy, perhaps for you, that I think the best way is to keep my mouth shut and just enjoy whatever comes around.
Besides who is actually having a problem if every single person know that there will be no change made to this track as everything is finalized?
I can only think of souls who loves to see exciting Races. And for this, I can tell you already how it will be like. Marketing will justify the race quality in an identical way as other new tracks have experienced, first year or two teams and drivers praise the track and then there will be a lot of complains like Singapore track. Occasionally teames met to discuss and submitted ther concern on lack of overtaking and blamed the track for it. BMW's initial statement there in Singapore was note worthy in this sense. How do you rate those events yourself? Do you feel your need to show your effort to show alternative tracks in this forum? To me your answer is no and sit and wait till you can complain about it afterwards legitimately. This in itself is a OK manner, but seen the natureof this forum, you could, as i did, activate discussion to pull a influence or two.
My point of showing the track was specifically about New Jersey Track. From what i read I see that you know well that the deal is done already. I can only assume that. Huge logistics on different matters are involved so changing track traces and facility positions are way too expensive things to do. Not only it risks the deal to be vanished. But hey, I come to think that a better track, which is not necessarily mine, can bring the race there in par with Monaco in true sense, isn't it? Luckily it is neither FOM nor Tilke who is complaining about it already. It is just a fan in Europe who is decided to take position in this matter. So No NYC lawyer can complain about it. There is no responsibility in FOM neither Tilke. All they know is that there is stubborn protests to be seen, which says, change it then the place will be truly celebrated.
I insisted on Anti Clock Wise based on this athletic logics, and associate it with view to Manhattan, as those two points seems to me immediately valid without changing track if you take a note that authority will not care about how cars run, in which rotation the car will run, as long as the race is safe (enough). I forced to change other bits that is more for the sake of shock making to enforce my debate. I know my track lay out is far from perfect and full of mistakes and taboos, but this does not mean that Tilke is a god and provided us with the ingenious solutions for which none complained ever. Forum is here to speak about racing, so I should be able to note my view as long as I keep respecting the house rule.
One thing is now sure, I rather do not want to read you complain about the New Jersey track after the race and escape by saying that but I could not see how the race will be, as you seems to be informed well enough about how racing takes place on the track and what measure must it be taken to stimulate it. if you can reveal secrets and skills on other venues like you yourself CAN do and have done, you could be better off doing it now so that the real architect can listen and see if there is anything to pick up. That is what I mean.
Edited by One, 28 October 2011 - 08:35.