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#5301 TIFOlonSO

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:35

Can the title be decided in Brazil?


Yes, 3rd Alo, 4thVet, 5th Ham, 10th Web

or 1st Alo, 5th Web

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#5302 kosmos

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:39

Germany :wave: ...oh sorry wasn´t it Massa who was leading Alonso before something happened.
the Scuderia Ferrari is the best car becouse of it´s reliability and speed compined



Fair enough, Alonso 2nd on Germany, still leader of the WDC, peace :wave: .

#5303 Massacrator

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:39

If Alonso wins Brazil and Webber isn't in the top 4 it's over for everyone...

Alonso should focus into not making a single mistake...

#5304 King Six

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:59

It would be nice to see a proper analysis/statistics on all eight of his engines for this season, the mileage they've each done and what he can/should use for the remaining two races (including what he can use only during practice sessions)

Edited by King Six, 24 October 2010 - 10:59.


#5305 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:11

It would be nice to see a proper analysis/statistics on all eight of his engines for this season, the mileage they've each done and what he can/should use for the remaining two races (including what he can use only during practice sessions)


He has only 1 engine left which has 'only' done 1 race.

#5306 King Six

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:13

Brazil is pretty tough on the engines too. Long periods of full throttle and high altitude/thinner air aswell as relatively steep inclines.

#5307 albertini

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:17

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Fonzi time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#5308 as65p

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:17

If Alonso wins Brazil and Webber isn't in the top 4 it's over for everyone...

Alonso should focus into not making a single mistake...


Actually I believe finishing top 3, but, crucially, in front of Webber, will be enough now.

OTOH it's this sort of calculations which tends to mess things up. Probably best to just keep going as fast as he can, avoiding mistakes, then the rest will sort itself.

#5309 Grundle

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:19

I am not biased, I respect Hamilton as a racing driver and I love how he drives.. :love:

IMO Hamilton could have defended his position better than he did even if his car was slower than the Ferrari. Look at Singapore this year, for instance, where Alonso beat Vettel with a slower car.

Vettel was just quicker than Alonso, and Singapore you cant really overtake.

#5310 Alondra

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:54

ALONSO! Asturiaaaas patriaaaa queridaaaaaaa...lol,;)

Seriously, well done. On to Brazil and hopefully another podium - you're slowly getting there.

#5311 Ferrari2183

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 12:42

I like this pic...

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Count the fingers!

I despised this guy back in '05 and '06 but I have warmed up to him. Stunning performance.

#5312 TigersWood

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 12:57

Congratulations Fernando, perfect today!!

It is obvious he likes the Caption Time thread and wants to contribute.

#5313 kosmos

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:10

Fernando and the team doing some celebrations.

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Edited by kosmos, 24 October 2010 - 14:11.


#5314 Alondra

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:17

He's loving it! :cool:

#5315 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:22



Look at the minute 3:28!!! :clap:

#5316 boldhakka

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:23

Would love to learn more about Alonso's mental approach - I think that's where he really shines. Even in the beginning of the season while all the other drivers were making a lot of noise, Alonso was talking about how the development over the course of the season is the most important thing. Even after this race win in Korea he is talking about how the big picture hasn't changed and that consistency and finishing on the podium is what will count in Brazil and Abu Dhabi.

He appears to be less influenced by the short-term gyrations in the results and more focussed on the slightly longer-term compared to other drivers. His confidence and approach doesn't depend on the last few races only, but on form over the whole season.

Lots to learn from him.

#5317 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:25

Fernando and the team doing some celebrations.

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Great :)

#5318 fabr68

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:32

Great victory for Alonso. The haters are in serious pain right now

#5319 Mackey

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 14:57

5th victory for Alonso as a Ferrari driver, beating his 4 wins with McLaren.
And so many more to come....

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#5320 Bruce

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:08

For those saying that Alonso's win was "lucky", I'd agree - still, it's not as if this "luck" was any different than the sort that we've seen before for other drivers and it's not as if the "luck" was unaccompanied by skill and persistence. I'd point out that everybody in the field can be called "lucky because everybody in the field gained a place when Vettel retired. Venting your ire on Alonso because he was in the best position to benefit from the retirement is silly.

Secondly, I'll bet no one was calling Alonso "lucky" after Valencia, Silverstone, or Canada.

Great result for Alonso - his persistence and doggedness are scary.


#5321 Stuko

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:11

Not only the fastest today but the smartest with the pit crew: :up: :up: :up:

Q: At the pit stop there seemed to be a slight problem with the front right?
FA: Yes, it was my mistake.

Q: What happened?
FA: I locked the tyres and I arrived sideways, so I think it was difficult for the mechanic in the position I stopped.

#5322 fabr68

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:12

For those saying that Alonso's win was "lucky", I'd agree - still, it's not as if this "luck" was any different than the sort that we've seen before for other drivers and it's not as if the "luck" was unaccompanied by skill and persistence. I'd point out that everybody in the field can be called "lucky because everybody in the field gained a place when Vettel retired. Venting your ire on Alonso because he was in the best position to benefit from the retirement is silly.

Secondly, I'll bet no one was calling Alonso "lucky" after Valencia, Silverstone, or Canada.

Great result for Alonso - his persistence and doggedness are scary.


I agree

Hamilton should have won the Korean GP after the pit mistake. Alonso did not lose control, drove better and won.

#5323 portago

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:17

Fernando and the team doing some celebrations.

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Is Massa smiling or did they bring a double? :lol:

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#5324 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:18

Not only the fastest today but the smartest with the pit crew: :up: :up: :up:

Q: At the pit stop there seemed to be a slight problem with the front right?
FA: Yes, it was my mistake.

Q: What happened?
FA: I locked the tyres and I arrived sideways, so I think it was difficult for the mechanic in the position I stopped.


:up: :up: :up:

A younger Alonso of 2003-2007 wouldn't have said it.

There is not doubt to me that he has matured incredibly and is a much better driver now.


#5325 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:21

Is Massa smiling or did they bring a double? :lol:


I'd say Massa looks genuinely happy  ;)

#5326 portago

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:23

I'd say Massa looks genuinely happy ;)


Agreed. I was only joking. Let's hope he puts his ghosts behind and starts to drive as he used to do.

#5327 seahawk

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:25

Yes, he seems mature and focussed. In one season he seems like a real replacement as a team leader for Schumi.

#5328 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:28

Agreed. I was only joking. Let's hope he puts his ghosts behind and starts to drive as he used to do.


The next race is Brazil, his strongest track. Let's hope he gets another podium like today with Alonso winning the race again.

#5329 chrisblades85

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:30

Considering a he's a miserable so and so. He's an alright driver. Well maybe the best driver.

#5330 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:35

Considering a he's a miserable so and so. He's an alright driver. Well maybe the best driver.


He isn't more miserable than Michael was and is.

#5331 kar

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:39

He isn't more miserable than Michael was and is.


True.

And they both are and have done amazing things for Ferrari.

=]

#5332 chrisblades85

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:40

He isn't more miserable than Michael was and is.



Well i've met both and can say that he is.

#5333 Ferrari2183

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:42

Agreed. I was only joking. Let's hope he puts his ghosts behind and starts to drive as he used to do.

I've also noticed that Alonso and Massa seem to be getting along better now. There are a few pics out there where they look real friendly.

#5334 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:45

Well i've met both and can say that he is.


Do you really know them personally?

#5335 JKTRacing

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:09

Do you really know them personally?


+1 tell us how you know Alonso & Michael please?

I met Alonso for the first time in 96, we raced together, and he is far from miserable

Edited by JKTRacing, 24 October 2010 - 16:09.


#5336 AlanWake

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:16

+1 tell us how you know Alonso & Michael please?

I met Alonso for the first time in 96, we raced together, and he is far from miserable


It would be interesting if you can post more details about that experience :up:

#5337 boldhakka

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:02

It would be interesting if you can post more details about that experience :up:


Second that!

#5338 Callisto

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:04

Congrats to alonso for winning the race :up:

#5339 chrisblades85

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:05

I've also noticed that Alonso and Massa seem to be getting along better now. There are a few pics out there where they look real friendly.



No. Just met and spoke to him after Spain had just won the world cup.

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#5340 Mandzipop

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:33

Good one from Alonso. Fantastic tyre management. :up:

#5341 morals

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:43



Look at the minute 3:28!!! :clap:


I really liked Hamilton gesture towards Alonso a couple of corners after that :)

Edited by morals, 24 October 2010 - 17:44.


#5342 gaston_foix

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 18:02

I really liked Hamilton gesture towards Alonso a couple of corners after that :)

Hamilton :up: It shows respect and this 2 guys have a lot one for each other.

#5343 Titov

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 20:07

Crazy race and outstanding performance from ALO, he is really impressive at the end of the season, focused, fast and on fire.
If he keeps the momentum, have a bit of luck (engines department) he will be youngest 3 times WDC.

#5344 JackTorrance

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 21:29

For those saying that Alonso's win was "lucky", I'd agree - still, it's not as if this "luck" was any different than the sort that we've seen before for other drivers and it's not as if the "luck" was unaccompanied by skill and persistence. I'd point out that everybody in the field can be called "lucky because everybody in the field gained a place when Vettel retired. Venting your ire on Alonso because he was in the best position to benefit from the retirement is silly.

Secondly, I'll bet no one was calling Alonso "lucky" after Valencia, Silverstone, or Canada.

Great result for Alonso - his persistence and doggedness are scary.



Yup, agreed on all points. I knew Alonso is an awesome and incredibly consistent racer, but todays race only adds to his legacy. In fact his comeback fight the last 4 races have all been very, very impressive.

Id be heart broken for Newey if his team loses out, but in terms of who was the best driver over the season there is only one and thats Fernando.

#5345 pRy

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 22:00

Ferrari have found their new Schumacher. Alonso had his photo taken with every Ferrari team mechanic 1 by 1 according to Italians via James Allen.

#5346 buffbuff

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 22:44

Kudos to Alonso for his celebration laugh on the drive back to the pits, I thought that was superb.

#5347 scheivlak

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 22:46

Yup, agreed on all points. I knew Alonso is an awesome and incredibly consistent racer, but todays race only adds to his legacy. In fact his comeback fight the last 4 races have all been very, very impressive.

Id be heart broken for Newey if his team loses out, but in terms of who was the best driver over the season there is only one and thats Fernando.

It's very easy to give more weight to the second part of the season. That's how your brain and your memory works.

Almost all his drives in the second part of the season are very impressive, but let's not forget Fernando's shaky start (rather crucial mistakes at various moments in Melbourne, Shanghai and Monaco and a mediocre race in Turkey).
It's not that there is another driver way above everyone else, but let's keep things in perspective.

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 22:50

Fantastic again today. An unbelievable run of results, from burried in the pack to leading the WDC. This guy is just superb. I think his mental approach is the best, he is very tough psychologically. Two thumbs up from Craven.

#5349 JackTorrance

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 00:15

It's very easy to give more weight to the second part of the season. That's how your brain and your memory works.

Almost all his drives in the second part of the season are very impressive, but let's not forget Fernando's shaky start (rather crucial mistakes at various moments in Melbourne, Shanghai and Monaco and a mediocre race in Turkey).
It's not that there is another driver way above everyone else, but let's keep things in perspective.



Shaky start? He won the first race(!), got tipped round by another car at melbourne and fought back strong after a jump start at malaysia. Turkey and Monaco were costly, as was Spa. But his last 4 results see a win, a win, a third place and a win when his rivals seem to collapse over the increasing pressure. Im also hugely impressed how he absolutly demolishes Massa in just about every session, practise or qualifying.

Blinding speed and consistency=what makes world champions and F1 greats. Alonso shows he has both. I bet hell be a triple champ in two races time.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 02:15

Congrats to Fernando and his fans! Great race, great result! Bad luck for Vettel though.. remaining laps could have brough us a nice duel between the two!