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#8401 NoDivergence

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:03

I said before that Alonso would not be able to sustain the on the edge pace of his qualifying... the car is just terrible

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#8402 speng

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:06

I do agree, he doesn't deserve this, f##k you FIA, you are determined to ruin fernando's career since 2007 and won't stop until you get it :down: :down: :down:

:lol:

#8403 AlanWake

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:11

Good drive by FA considering the car he is driving.

#8404 primer

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:14

I said before that Alonso would not be able to sustain the on the edge pace of his qualifying... the car is just terrible

While this is true, the magnitude of their fall in the race is shocking.

#8405 figue

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:16

anyway fernando showed this weekend why he's yet the best driver out there

i have never seen a driver leading for 20 laps in a lapped car

#8406 fabr68

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:17

He deserves all of it... suck it up, Fernando, you demanded to get to this team and now you are there. Be happy.


Dude, the Nascar forum is two pages up

#8407 zeph

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:18

At the end of the race Alonso was 3.5 secs off the pace. Wow. He'd go faster in a wheelbarrow.

#8408 Desdirodeabike

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:19

While this is true, the magnitude of their fall in the race is shocking.

Compared to the race pace Alonso had in Turkey it must be worrying. Where were his 6 tenths today?
Ferrari seems to be fading while others step forward.

#8409 zeph

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:20

A legendary start by Alonso which only made the subsequent humiliation and thrashing all the more painful. This race confirms what I've been trying to deny thus far: Ferrari's car and season is a disaster. :|



I don't think the car is all that bad. But the pit stops are, and so are the strategy calls.

#8410 HAM

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:20

Great start and drove a great race! Just unlucky to be in a Ferrari, he would won or came 2nd if he had a faster car.

#8411 Birelman

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:21

Boy! am I glad Alonso signed for that Ferrari for a loooooong time!!! LOL

#8412 fabr68

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:22

Alonso probably did the best start of the season. Too bad the car did not have the pace

#8413 puxanando

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:22

:love: Alonso GRANDE.....he made the best job today with a inferior car, bad stratetic and box-stops.....

#8414 slmk

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:23

Good drive by FA considering the car he is driving.


Exactly. Considering what Massa did in the same car and Alonso's brilliant start and first stint(s) - holding off Webber for half the race ..... Alonso definitely had a good race despite being lapped.

#8415 Bruce

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:23

I don't think the car is all that bad. But the pit stops are, and so are the strategy calls.


Exactly - when will Ferrari stop trying to match RedBull? You'd think Dubai would have taught them - but apparently not.

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#8416 figue

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:27

Exactly - when will Ferrari stop trying to match RedBull? You'd think Dubai would have taught them - but apparently not.


should fernando have stayed out a few more laps, he would have jumped backwards up to his 5th place anyway, there's no good strategy with such a dog car

#8417 dutchie

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:27

Very sad to see Fernando dropping off the pace so badly after what can only be described as an amazing and dare I say uncharacteristically good start. Ferrari need to up their game on all fronts, from the strategy to the car design to the second driver. Not good enough.

#8418 zeph

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:37

Ferrari needs to practice pit-stops.

#8419 igoru

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:47

anyway fernando showed this weekend why he's yet the best driver out there

i have never seen a driver leading for 20 laps in a lapped car

Very true. Give FA Mclaren today and podium would have been FA,SV,LH.

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#8420 robefc

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:49

anyway fernando showed this weekend why he's yet the best driver out there

i have never seen a driver leading for 20 laps in a lapped car


I've never seen a driver manage to take a car from the lead to a lap down before either... :p

#8421 YellowHelmet

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:51

I've never seen a driver manage to take a car from the lead to a lap down before either... :p

because never before there was a driver in such a slow car able to lead
alonso is just incredible.

#8422 glorius&victorius

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:52

Very true. Give FA Mclaren today and podium would have been FA,SV,LH.


he's had a mclaren before

#8423 velgajski1

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:53

Very true. Give FA Mclaren today and podium would have been FA,SV,LH.


Guy gets lapped by Hamilton and you say he would do a better job than him in Macca?

FA was nothing special today. Great start, but that is all he showed, should have done better job in keeping his tyres in check, his race fell apart and he was quite lucky that Mercedes guys didn't get him too.

#8424 robefc

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:54

because never before there was a driver in such a slow car able to lead
alonso is just incredible.


Alonso's a great driver.

But getting a good start and then staying ahead at a track where it's impossible to overtake without a tyre advantage is really not as amazing as people are making out.

It's also simply being taken as read that it was all the car rather than alonso's performance that was poor from lap 20 onwards, which is not necessarily untrue but is an interesting assumption to take as read.

#8425 YellowHelmet

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:55

But getting a good start and then staying ahead at a track where it's impossible to overtake without a tyre advantage is really not as amazing as people are making out.

if the car is just half a second slower than you are right, but ferrari was about 1.5 sec a lap slower and for that he was marvellous.




#8426 AlanWake

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:57

I've never seen a driver manage to take a car from the lead to a lap down before either... :p


It just shows how superior the MP4-26 and the RB7 were to the rest today :)

#8427 AlanWake

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:02

Alonso won't win the WDC this year but I look forward to him displaying his best skills in the rest of races. He has nothing to lose now and everything to gain.

#8428 Kohque

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:04

It is not all bad news.

Alonso did the best weekend so far this season. Only bad timing: Ferrari's season is officially over :lol:

#8429 puxanando

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:06

:up: Fernando made a very good job today.....strategy and box-stops failing another time...Alonso gave his "BEST". What a amazing start of him!!!

#8430 YellowHelmet

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:07

:up: Fernando made a very good job today.....strategy and box-stops failing another time...Alonso gave his "BEST". What a amazing start of him!!!

i dont think that strategy was that crucial today, they were just to slow.

#8431 walkindude

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:11

Compared to the race pace Alonso had in Turkey it must be worrying. Where were his 6 tenths today?
Ferrari seems to be fading while others step forward.


Those 6 tenths are what made him dominate Massa over the whole weekend.The same Massa who destroyed the nascar trucker two years in a row.Talk some sense.Alonso was probably the best driver over the whole weekend.

#8432 Peeko

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:19

A bit like Alonso finishing 3 times ahead Massa this year and Massa 2 times ahead of him... couldnt be more even competition after 5 races.

No its not at all like that:

10+7=17
3+2=5

#8433 zeph

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:39

if the car is just half a second slower than you are right, but ferrari was about 1.5 sec a lap slower and for that he was marvellous.


At the end the car was 3.5s/lap slower than Vettel and Hamilton.

#8434 slmk

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:42

I was actually surprised to see Alonso smiling after the race while talking to the BBC. The guy was leading the race and then got lapped. Either he knew he had to settle for fifth (albeit a very, very distant fifth which probably pissed him off) or he's got one hell of a poker face.

#8435 zeph

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:52

I think the extended contract proves that both parties take the long view, and are wiling to rebuild and mold the team until they have got the winning formula.

I reckon another title (or two?) is definitely in the stars if they are so committed to the cause.

#8436 SennaHolic

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:01

why should he get dropped? :rolleyes:


Why? Because they can. FA and Ferrari are looking for the same formula they had with Schumi. If you look at the past WDC since the 80's MS is the only one to win titles, and then win again years later. FA is at the same spot with the same team. The moment Ferrari realizes it ain't gonna happen, BYE BYE!!

#8437 Birelman

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:02

Why? Because they can. FA and Ferrari are looking for the same formula they had with Schumi. If you look at the past WDC since the 80's MS is the only one to win titles, and then win again years later. FA is at the same spot with the same team. The moment Ferrari realizes it ain't gonna happen, BYE BYE!!

Yea, I saw an article where Ferrari might even consider partnering Alonso with Hamilton again, and we all know how that might turn out! lol oh, the horror!!!

#8438 DLaw

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:02

Why? Because they can. FA and Ferrari are looking for the same formula they had with Schumi. If you look at the past WDC since the 80's MS is the only one to win titles, and then win again years later. FA is at the same spot with the same team. The moment Ferrari realizes it ain't gonna happen, BYE BYE!!



Nonsense.

#8439 rabbitleader

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:05

Why? Because they can. FA and Ferrari are looking for the same formula they had with Schumi. If you look at the past WDC since the 80's MS is the only one to win titles, and then win again years later. FA is at the same spot with the same team. The moment Ferrari realizes it ain't gonna happen, BYE BYE!!


One reason it won't happen is that Schumacher pounded the Marenello circuit day after day with new upgrades until they were certain that upgrades going to the next race would deliver results. Testing ban has changed this. It's also a reason why Schumacher is not able to shine at Mercedes.

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#8440 lambylamby

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:05

I didn't think Alonso did that 'great' today, but more of a Heidfeld performance, he steered the ship home, after the first 2 stints it must have been a lonely race, and other cars were all over him when he did get the lead. Well held against them though, that's why he is quality.

Edit, What the heck was that pit call though for the last stint?!

Edited by lambylamby, 22 May 2011 - 16:06.


#8441 SennaHolic

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:09

I guess Alonso's magical development skills ain't what they used to be.

#8442 zeph

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:11

I guess Alonso's magical development skills ain't what they used to be.


I think they are. But there's not a lot to be done with them when there is a testing ban.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:13

I was actually surprised to see Alonso smiling after the race while talking to the BBC. The guy was leading the race and then got lapped. Either he knew he had to settle for fifth (albeit a very, very distant fifth which probably pissed him off) or he's got one hell of a poker face.


Besides bad weather and accident and penalty has there ever being a time that a car was leading the race to the first stops and was then actually lapped?

Edited by Anomnader, 22 May 2011 - 16:14.


#8444 YellowHelmet

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:14

Besides bad weather and accident and penalty has there ever being a time that a car was leading the race to the first stops and was then actually lapped?

no cause there was never ever before such a slow car leading a race for 20 laps. great drive by fernando :up:

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:14

I think they are. But there's not a lot to be done with them when there is a testing ban.

Actually, with the testing ban, I would say the little feedback the drivers can give now is even more important than before.

#8446 YellowHelmet

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:16

Actually, with the testing ban, I would say the little feedback the drivers can give now is even more important than before.

no coz there is not enough time to test all the options that was made through that adavices.
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it also needs good ingenieurs to turn that advices into improvements.

#8447 robefc

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:17

At the end the car was 3.5s/lap slower than Vettel and Hamilton.


Just to be clear, it was alonso that got the Q3 time and got into the lead but the car that was slower later on?

#8448 prty

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:19

Just to be clear, it was alonso that got the Q3 time and got into the lead but the car that was slower later on?


Nah, it's just that Alonso is 4 seconds slower than Hamilton, and he was only 3.5 because of the car :stoned:

#8449 Anomnader

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:19

no cause there was never ever before such a slow car leading a race for 20 laps. great drive by fernando :up:



Well I was going to put it down to tyres, I think the car was okay, they just played it wrong

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:22

no coz there is not enough time to test all the options that was made through that adavices.
and
it also needs good ingenieurs to turn that advices into improvements.

That's exactly why it's more valuable now....