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#8651 Smile17

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 20:03

I know about the X-factor, I also know other drivers with it that some of Alonso's fans tend to dismiss on a similar note.


I didn't mean that seriously! What do you think of Alonso's master driving skills, for example? Even before that he was declared by many people inside the racing world as the most impressive driver they have seen. Do you remember Cesare Fiorio's and Adrian Campos' words? just to name a few.. Well that combined with the x-factor thing.

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#8652 Atic Atac

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 20:08

those were the days, defit reminded me last sunday of those times, hope we see more of these this year


Well, it looks like the new clutch system works fine for him.


#8653 Birelman

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 20:13

I didn't mean that seriously! What do you think of Alonso's master driving skills, for example? Even before that he was declared by many people inside the racing world as the most impressive driver they have seen. Do you remember Cesare Fiorio's and Adrian Campos' words? just to name a few.. Well that combined with the x-factor thing.

Actually, I've known Fernando since before he was 15 years old, he was special back then too, so, yea, I have extremely high regard for his abilities having seen them first hand, I might even hold a higher opinion of him than you. :)

You might not have meant about X-factor, but it's as true as day and night. call it, mojo, Xfactor, it factor, I like to call it the mark of a champion :)

Just because I like to screw with his fans doesn't mean I don't know his skill set :p

Edited by Birelman, 24 May 2011 - 20:16.


#8654 Smile17

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 20:26

Actually, I've known Fernando since before he was 15 years old, he was special back then too, so, yea, I have extremely high regard for his abilities having seen them first hand, I might even hold a higher opinion of him than you. :)

You might not have meant about X-factor, but it's as true as day and night. call it, mojo, Xfactor, it factor, I like to call it the mark of a champion :)

Just because I like to screw with his fans doesn't mean I don't know his skill set :p


Well you should have known the answer on why it's not applicable elsewhere then :p

#8655 kurski

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 20:36

That's a solid, assessment. How come that only works for Fernando, I wonder?

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree, I just wonder why it's not applicable elsewhere.


I think Alonso was Briatore new Schumi and Trulli was forced to step aside so. Briatore wanted to Alonso's team mate for the 2005 Mark Webber, but had to settle for Fisichella.

May assume that Fisichella, Trulli and Alonso already knew on their own in the first period that will push for a someday manager Briatore, Benetton/Renault team.

Alonso already saw juonna 2001 that he can become champion one day, as opposed to Fisichella and Trulli were a little lost promises and Webber, perhaps even when someone believes too old.

#8656 AlanWake

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 21:01

Alonso drove a good 2004 season, although, Trulli had the better of their common points of time, but Briatore knew that Alonso has the future promise so he invested in Spanish. Trulli joined his friend Gascoyne Toyota team which was good for his decision after Flavio had landed with the manager of the contract.


I agree with you :up:

What happened between Alonso and Trulli in 2004 reminds me of what happened between Vettel and Webber in 2010. Both Alonso and Vettel made some stupid mistakes and suffered more reliability problems than their experienced teammates, who were usually driving at their best, although I’d say Alonso’s main problem in 2004 (first half of the season) were his poor qualifyings in some GP’s because he was almost always faster than Trulli in the races if you look at the laptimes :). In fact, Webber was closer to Vettel in terms of overall race pace than Trulli to Alonso..

Despite the fact that Trulli and Webber were making a better job than Alonso and Vettel in the first half of the season IMO, Alonso’s aggressive style and race pace showed to many people (Team bosses, F1 Fans and the Media) that the guy had A LOT potential, just like Vettel whose raw speed showed that there was more to come from him.
When the season progressed and Alonso and Vettel calmed down and started maximize their results, Trulli and Webber started to be beaten again and again…

Some people will say that Renault and Red Bull were favoring Alonso and Vettel which I don't deny at all, I just think the F1 Teams aren’t fools and know well that, in the long term, that young driver with clear potential and plenty of room for improvement has more chances to deliver better results (i.e: race wins and titles) than his teammate who is at his peak.

Edited by AlanWake, 24 May 2011 - 21:03.


#8657 kurski

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 21:13

I agree with you :up:

Some people will say that Renault and Red Bull were favoring Alonso and Vettel which I don't deny at all, I just think the F1 Teams aren’t fools and know well that, in the long term, that young driver with clear potential and plenty of room for improvement has more chances to deliver better results (i.e: race wins and titles) than his teammate who is at his peak.


I've been a fan of Alonso since 2000 (F3000) and Benetton/Renault team since 1995, so I was pretty sure back in 2003 that Alonso will win the world championship with Renault team to the 2005-2008 range.
(Eventually, Alonso won the 05 and 06 years)

I've always believed that Renault has never "sleeping", since there are mercilessly work as we have seen, but now I want to renew that Alonso Ferrari championships with the team but they need to get more new engineers who are not Italians. (Alonso could say that the Ferrari team that acquired Schumi similarity with Renault (formely Benetton), a team of his friends to the Ferrari team.)

#8658 puxanando

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 21:58

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:up: Alonso today!

#8659 scheivlak

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 22:06

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:up: Alonso today!



Hmmm, a BRM #20, that brings some memories.

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#8660 Birelman

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 22:46

Well you should have known the answer on why it's not applicable elsewhere then :p

Yea, I just don't understand why some of you guys can't see it when it's on the other side of the pun.

#8661 PedroR

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 11:20

What was Fernando thinking about?

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#8662 peroa

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 11:21

Hehe, he planted the Ferrari micrphone...

#8663 kosmos

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 11:40

Video of the soccer match, Fisichella it's good.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

Edited by kosmos, 25 May 2011 - 11:41.


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Posted 25 May 2011 - 13:23

Video of the soccer match, Fisichella it's good.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

Thanks for sharing, its a great alternative to see. I wonder why Hamilton doesn't take part? He's a pretty good footballer by all accounts. Sorry off topic.

Alonso takes better penalties than most premiership players judging by that vid. :)

#8665 PretentiousBread

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 13:25

Video of the soccer match, Fisichella it's good.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded


Haha, that Fisichella goal was amazing. Even if it was offside.

#8666 ed24f1

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 13:54

Alonso's best years -in terms of driving- in order:

1.2006
2.2010
3.2005
4.2007
5.2003


I would disagree with 2010 being so high. I'd definitely put 2005 above it, and maybe even 2007.

I say that for two reasons.
1) He probably made more big mistakes last year than 2005-2007 combined.
2) He was very lucky. He inherited 3 of his 5 wins from other driver's failures or team orders, and the move to get ahead of Button in Monza was about 50-50 down to good strategy. Of course it is true you could say the same thing about 2005. Yes, he had some bad luck in Valencia, but this was balanced out with the good luck of Safety Cars in Melbourne, Shanghai and Monaco. Silverstone was also unlucky, but I consider that his own doing.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:01

Video of the soccer match, Fisichella it's good.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

Diver :mad: :lol:

#8668 puxanando

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:55

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco

#8669 SCUDmissile

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:56

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco

please is that a Kimi baseball cap? please no.

anyways Helemt :clap:

#8670 AlanWake

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 18:12

Nice helmet but I prefer his original blue helmet.

#8671 puxanando

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 18:18

Nice helmet but I prefer his original blue helmet.

:) I'm too....

#8672 kurski

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 18:27

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco


A really nice helmet, this special version of Alonso in Monaco and Singapore GP.

#8673 AlanWake

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 18:43

Monte Carlo, 25 May – The Monaco Grand Prix is a unique race on the championship calendar and, often the drivers like to display something unusual, either on the car, their race suit or their helmet. As from tomorrow morning’s free practice, Fernando Alonso will be using something special: a helmet with the same design but new colours, as the traditional yellow and blue have been changed for a gold-white combination. This scheme will also be used in Singapore, the second street circuit on the 2011 calendar and it is in a worthy cause: the helmet will be auctioned at the end of the championship and proceeds will go to the Fondazione Fernando Alonso which is mainly involved in projects aimed at developing road safety initiatives for children.

http://www.ferrari.c...cial_cause.aspx

#8674 Flamini

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 19:13

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco


Beautiful helmet.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 19:43

Video of the soccer match, Fisichella it's good.

http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded


:lol: Looks like everyone except McLaren and Red Bull drivers got invited.


#8676 olliek88

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 20:37

Lovin the helmet, shame about the 50 cent cap though, :well:

#8677 puxanando

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 21:12

:lol: Looks like everyone except McLaren and Red Bull drivers got invited.

:stoned: or they were frightend to loose or to be hurt......

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 21:23

Thanks for sharing, its a great alternative to see. I wonder why Hamilton doesn't take part? He's a pretty good footballer by all accounts. Sorry off topic.

Alonso takes better penalties than most premiership players judging by that vid. :)


I'm willing to bet that macca don't let their drivers play...

#8679 halifaxf1fan

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 21:26

please is that a Kimi baseball cap? please no.

anyways Helemt :clap:


Oh the irony of Alonso wearing a Kimi style cap with Santander's name on it!

Edited by halifaxf1fan, 25 May 2011 - 21:27.


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#8680 Gintonious

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 21:49

Return of the big hats for Ferrari, I NEED one of them!

#8681 F1Johnny

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 21:54

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco


:down:

Too drastic a change. His original helmet is the best on the grid IMO.

#8682 Birelman

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 22:01

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco

It looks like Raikkonen's only golden LOL

#8683 Buttoneer

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 23:11

At first glance, I really thought Alonso was flicking the bird at the photographer.

#8684 Kohque

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 03:00

At first glance, I really thought Alonso was flicking the bird at the photographer.

:rotfl: :rotfl:

#8685 YellowHelmet

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:56

Great performance till now by Fernando.
I hope that this is a good sign for this weekend :up:

#8686 klyster

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:30

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:love: :up: Alonsos helmet for Monaco


It's so gold!

#8687 puxanando

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:41

Great performance till now by Fernando.
I hope that this is a good sign for this weekend :up:

He could have been more fast, but vettel blogged him "a little bit"....Lets see what he will do in second practice....

#8688 MichaelPM

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:54

It's so gold!

I see what you did there :rotfl:

#8689 Kohque

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:11

It's so gold!

:rotfl: Awesome work! Taken!

#8690 Kohque

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:56

From the live commentary:

"Alonso tops the times in 1m15.123s with a margin of half a second over Vettel's effort."

It doesn't matter where Vettel really is. For the first time Ferrari is making better times than the RB by a considerable margin. It's looking good! :up:

Edited by Kohque, 26 May 2011 - 12:57.


#8691 tifosiMac

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 13:25

I see Fernando has a Kimi baseball cap too.. Nice job.

#8692 tifosiMac

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 13:26

Too drastic a change. His original helmet is the best on the grid IMO.

Its only for one race, I'm sure you can cope. :)

#8693 AlanWake

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 13:41

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I'm liking that special helmet more a more :)

#8694 DoodoolTalla

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 13:50

i want that cap so badly, i searched the net for years to get the kimi edition but no luck :(

#8695 tifosiMac

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 13:56

i want that cap so badly, i searched the net for years to get the kimi edition but no luck :(

I have seen the Kimi cap in the past through an authorised F1 souvenir site but they had it advertised for £120!!! For a baseball cap, do these people think fans are that stupid? I'm sure the Alonso one is similar in price and if you or me wore it, it would look like we worked in a bank anyway. :down:

#8696 kosmos

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 14:22

High res pics of the helmet.

http://www.formula1....1/d11mon592.jpg
http://www.formula1....1/d11mon528.jpg
http://www.formula1....1/d11mon529.jpg

Helmet is cool, kimi cap it's not, get rid of it Fernando. :cat:

#8697 kurski

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 15:49

Helmet is cool, kimi cap it's not, get rid of it Fernando. :cat:


Alonso used in Monaco and Singapore gp special helmet, but whether the new cap on the season until the end or only the Monaco Grand Prix?.

#8698 Sevach

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 17:13

I hope he keeps the helmet, looks cool in the sun!!!

#8699 rr0cket

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 19:29

i want that cap so badly, i searched the net for years to get the kimi edition but no luck :(

I bought one on ebay a while ago for $65 at 2am, it felt like I had struck gold, they were near impossible to find even when they were in.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 20:24

): Alonso should gain more than this rare comments in such a good forum!

Edited by puxanando, 26 May 2011 - 20:25.