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#10701 GerhardBerger

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:32

I really think the potential of the car is shown by Massa.. Alonso is just FANTASTIC in that " car ".


Indeed. And Massa is supposed to be good at this circuit. Remember the qualifying lap he did in 2008, no one was near him.

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#10702 Mackey

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:39

Alonso is GOD in this circuit. The car is crap and he´s put it 1 tenth of the McLaren. 1 second faster than Massa, MArc Gene was shocked with his time.
Remember he qualified 6th in 2009 here with arguably the worst car of the grid.

Edited by Mackey, 24 September 2011 - 15:40.


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:40

:well: Alonso is suffering....because he can't get out more of this car!

#10704 Techn1calSk1ll

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:45

Alonso is GOD in this circuit. The car is crap and he´s put it 1 tenth of the McLaren. 1 second faster than Massa, MArc Gene was shocked with his time.
Remember he qualified 6th in 2009 here with arguably the worst car of the grid.


Exactly, and yet everyone always yaps on about EBD boy Vettel getting yet another suprise pole position in that space rocket he races.

This is what annoys me with these media pundits, some of them really dont have a clue, eddie jordan in particular, ]]

You'd have to be BLIND not to see Alonso was on a MONSTER lap there, cos that Ferrari was NEVER that close to mclaren.

Wonder what happens if he gets it on the podium again tommorrow.

''Another Solid drive from Fernando'' (yet again getting podium in the 3rd fastest car)

meanwhile

''Amazing Vettel wins a race AGAIN.....boy we dunno how he does it in that red bull, its a truck but he just seems to be faster than everyone else in it, we dont know why"

#10705 puxanando

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:45

Alonso is in a Anti doping control from FIA...Lobato says.....

#10706 Feanaro

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:51

Just sticking my nose in the threat to say kudos to Alonso, that was a monster Q lap.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:05

Yeah, he is definetely magic in Singapore and it is really a pleasure to watch him to drive. Don't forget, he even got a podium with the R-29, one of the worst cars on the grid!

He didn't get the pole but he was definetely the man of the day. Why? He almost beats both Mclaren Drivers who are driving a more balanced and quicker car and he outqualified his teammate by almost 1 second who isn't slouch in qualifying. He really makes the difference on this track.

Edited by AlanWake, 24 September 2011 - 16:06.


#10708 Fontainebleau

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:08

Why he wave like that at the finish line ? Perhaps without that the 3rd place was for him :(

3rd sector was indeed his worst, but the way he put it when talking after qualy, he had to risk on every corner - one of them was due to be less than optimal. But I agree with you, so close yet so far!

Edit: actually, even though S3 was the worst in comparison to that of the 4 first cars, 36.0 was Alonso's best time of the weekend for S3 - see here http://safety-car.es...=24952#pid24952

Edited by Fontainebleau, 24 September 2011 - 16:28.


#10709 Skellen

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:11

Yeah, he is definetely magic in Singapore and it is really a pleasure to watch him to drive. Don't forget, he even got a podium with the R-29, one of the worst cars on the grid!


Well, this track requires a lot of precision and driving skills, no wonder Alonso is so great here.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:22

Well, this track requires a lot of precision and driving skills, no wonder Alonso is so great here.

:up:

I personally think that Singapore is the most challenging race on the F1 calendar..

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:25

First of all, amazing lap from Fernando.

But... out the track is simply a big mouth. Today he confirmed again. He said "we are so close because of my best lap I did over the whole year, I did the 120% and in some turns I´ve risked so much and in the case I would had done a normal lap I would be 1 second behind where Massa is" Simply arrogant.

Did you see Vettel on Australia, or Spa, or Hungary, or Monaco, or China, or Monza, or... saying: "no, my car is equal to the others, just look my team mate... but I´m making the difference" (Just as example)

I didn´t like the way he´s trying to giving himself merit. That´s simply stupid.


Edited by Alarcon, 24 September 2011 - 16:41.


#10712 LiJu914

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:25

Brilliant Job today.

If he jumps one of the Maccas tomorrow at the start, then a podium should be in reach (maybe more...)

#10713 Alarcon

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:34

:up:

I personally think that Singapore is the most challenging race on the F1 calendar..



Probably, but I´ll say first Suzuka is the most difficult.

Edited by Alarcon, 24 September 2011 - 16:34.


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:45

A second ahead of the guy who was proclaimed a Singapore specialist after qualifying on pole by 0.7 here in 2008! Fantastic job once again.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:55

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Why Fred is not using RED :mad: ... also black socks on white shoes... pikey.

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#10716 showtime

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:50

First of all, amazing lap from Fernando.

But... out the track is simply a big mouth. Today he confirmed again. He said "we are so close because of my best lap I did over the whole year, I did the 120% and in some turns I´ve risked so much and in the case I would had done a normal lap I would be 1 second behind where Massa is" Simply arrogant.

Did you see Vettel on Australia, or Spa, or Hungary, or Monaco, or China, or Monza, or... saying: "no, my car is equal to the others, just look my team mate... but I´m making the difference" (Just as example)

I didn´t like the way he´s trying to giving himself merit. That´s simply stupid.


Really? I see that as a compliment to Massa, he is saying that he has to do his best to be ahead of Massa (If I would have done a normal lap I would be 1 second behind where Massa is). He's always going to be criticized, if he says he's doing great laps he is arrogant, if he says he is constantly in front of Massa with no risks he would be a bad team mate. He's tired of being asked how bad Massa's performance is or how disappointing is getting "only" the 4th or 5th position on the grid is so he wants to make clear he's doing a great effort to get those results, is not like he's just cruising...

#10717 puxanando

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:53

........he's doing a great effort to get those results, is not like he's just cruising...


:up: True...he is doing the "impossible"!


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:11

Really? I see that as a compliment to Massa, he is saying that he has to do his best to be ahead of Massa (If I would have done a normal lap I would be 1 second behind where Massa is). He's always going to be criticized, if he says he's doing great laps he is arrogant, if he says he is constantly in front of Massa with no risks he would be a bad team mate. He's tired of being asked how bad Massa's performance is or how disappointing is getting "only" the 4th or 5th position on the grid is so he wants to make clear he's doing a great effort to get those results, is not like he's just cruising...

The thing is that he was not asked about Massa. Nira Juanco never says anything about Massa or where the other Ferrari ended up. She asked the question in such a way that Alonso just needed to say "yeah, I got out of the car all that was possible to get out, I even took big risks in a few corners". He really didn't have to come out and say something like that about Massa. The way I was grown up, that is considered disrespectful no matter who does it: Fernando Alonso or Pepito el de los Palotes.

Never mind, I suppose he gets paid to drive and that lap was very good.


#10719 GerhardBerger

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:13

Alarcon is a strange one. He hates Alonso, despite being Spanish himself.

His comments are not arrogant anyway. He's saying he needed to do the best lap of his year to be one second ahead of Massa.

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#10720 kosmos

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:18

The thing is that he was not asked about Massa. Nira Juanco never says anything about Massa or where the other Ferrari ended up. She asked the question in such a way that Alonso just needed to say "yeah, I got out of the car all that was possible to get out, I even took big risks in a few corners". He really didn't have to come out and say something like that about Massa. The way I was grown up, that is considered disrespectful no matter who does it: Fernando Alonso or Pepito el de los Palotes.

Never mind, I suppose he gets paid to drive and that lap was very good.



As far as I know, your teammate is your main rival always and he is the one you compared first because you have the same car.....

#10721 Feanaro

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:19

Alarcon is a strange one. He hates Alonso, despite being Spanish himself.

His comments are not arrogant anyway. He's saying he needed to do the best lap of his year to be one second ahead of Massa.


I know lot of Spaniards that don't like Alonso =O.

#10722 Techn1calSk1ll

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:21

I didn´t like the way he´s trying to giving himself merit. That´s simply stupid.


Yeah, as opposed to your daddy, who cruises around the joint in a rocketship that was at one stage 0.8 faster than anyone else in Q3, then screams over the radio like he's faking an orgasm, then gets out the car waving that smelly finger around which apparently means he is ''number one''.



#10723 Clay

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:21

I know lot of Spaniards that don't like Alonso =O.


There are also many British who don't like Hamilton and many Germans who don't like Vettel. I don't know what's so weird.

#10724 puxanando

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:25

I know lot of Spaniards that don't like Alonso =O.


I also know a lot of spanish, german, austrian, english, japonese, chinese, arabian......................................................................peo
ple who loves him!
¿So what? :rolleyes:


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:28

:well: Alonso is suffering....because he can't get out more of this car!

maybe he should dig deep and find those tenths

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:29

As far as I know, your teammate is your main rival always and he is the one you compared first because you have the same car.....

But that's not what he was being asked about. There's no need to question the profesionality of another driver, especially when the interviewer has introduced the question saying that he's done amazingly well but, sadly, his car doesn't have wings. In other words, that was not an annoying question but a "Fernando you're the best" question.

If you tell me, "well, maybe he didn't want it to sound that way, he just wanted to point out that there's no way to get more from the car and thought that a comparison with his team mate could be good to make his point, not thinking that it could be understood like him saying his team mate doesn't try", then I would answer: "who knows? It's possible"

#10727 Clay

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:31

maybe he should dig deep and find those tenths


Implying he is not doing already. :down:

#10728 Feanaro

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:33

There are also many British who don't like Hamilton and many Germans who don't like Vettel. I don't know what's so weird.



I also know a lot of spanish, german, austrian, english, japonese, chinese, arabian......................................................................peo
ple who loves him!
¿So what? :rolleyes:

Don't get your panties in a bunch :lol: i'm thinking exactly the same as you two, i was responding to another poster.

cheers

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:34

The thing is that he was not asked about Massa. Nira Juanco never says anything about Massa or where the other Ferrari ended up. She asked the question in such a way that Alonso just needed to say "yeah, I got out of the car all that was possible to get out, I even took big risks in a few corners". He really didn't have to come out and say something like that about Massa. The way I was grown up, that is considered disrespectful no matter who does it: Fernando Alonso or Pepito el de los Palotes.

Never mind, I suppose he gets paid to drive and that lap was very good.


We all know how Alonso is, how he express himself , I can understand some people consider him arrogant. But in this case I think he only wants to make clear that the car is the third fastest and doing those times is not easy, the easiest way to prove that is comparing his performances with his team mate.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:34

The thing is that he was not asked about Massa. Nira Juanco never says anything about Massa or where the other Ferrari ended up. She asked the question in such a way that Alonso just needed to say "yeah, I got out of the car all that was possible to get out, I even took big risks in a few corners". He really didn't have to come out and say something like that about Massa. The way I was grown up, that is considered disrespectful no matter who does it: Fernando Alonso or Pepito el de los Palotes.

Never mind, I suppose he gets paid to drive and that lap was very good.



Couldn't agree more.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:35

Don't get your panties in a bunch :lol: i'm thinking exactly the same as you two, i was responding to another poster.

cheers


And I think we both meant to reinforce what you said to that poster.;)

Edited by Clay, 24 September 2011 - 18:36.


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:36

Great lap by Alonso. If he'd driven last year and in 2007 the way he's driven all through this year he'd be a 4 time WDC by now and it wouldn't be quite as painful seeing his talent wasted with a poor car! This is probably his best season since 2006.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:44

I rate FA really high, but this "amazing" things he's doing are at the same level of Sebastian Vs. Webber.
Is it more difcult being one second ahead of your teammate in brick-car or in a rocket-car?

#10734 Feanaro

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:45

And I think we both meant to reinforce what you said to that poster.;)

Then i apologize for my response :D

#10735 GerhardBerger

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:47

There are also many British who don't like Hamilton and many Germans who don't like Vettel. I don't know what's so weird.


The vast majority of Brits like Hamilton. The vast majority of Germans like Vettel. The ones you mentioned above are exceptions.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:49

I rate FA really high, but this "amazing" things he's doing are at the same level of Sebastian Vs. Webber.
Is it more difcult being one second ahead of your teammate in brick-car or in a rocket-car?


You are implying Webber = Massa... All I know is watching the onboards of both cars in each race is painful to say the least for a Ferrari/Alonso/Massa supporter.

#10737 Fontainebleau

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 19:07

I rate FA really high, but this "amazing" things he's doing are at the same level of Sebastian Vs. Webber.
Is it more difcult being one second ahead of your teammate in brick-car or in a rocket-car?

I think that what people consider amazing is that he put the F150 on the same tenth as the two McLarens driven by Button and Hamilton.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 19:11

But that's not what he was being asked about. There's no need to question the profesionality of another driver, especially when the interviewer has introduced the question saying that he's done amazingly well but, sadly, his car doesn't have wings. In other words, that was not an annoying question but a "Fernando you're the best" question.

If you tell me, "well, maybe he didn't want it to sound that way, he just wanted to point out that there's no way to get more from the car and thought that a comparison with his team mate could be good to make his point, not thinking that it could be understood like him saying his team mate doesn't try", then I would answer: "who knows? It's possible"

I think that he was replying to the "isn't it a pity you couldn't find a couple more tenths?" question. In fact fact, his final sentence is along the lines of "had it not been a great lap we would have been one second behind, like Massa, and we would not be talking about those tenths".

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 19:19

His comments reflect what people, inside the team, think about how Felipe is performing this year. It's like children saying what heard at home.

i'm not considering FA a child :drunk:

I think that what people consider amazing is that he put the F150 on the same tenth as the two McLarens driven by Button and Hamilton.

sure, but that's about today's performance.

I may be mixing things up here (sorry) , it was just a general thought about how good is FA being clearly and constantly faster than FM and Seb being constantly and clearly faster than MW. In any condition and almost every track/tyre combination.

Edited by pikamoku, 24 September 2011 - 19:24.


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 21:59

His comments reflect what people, inside the team, think about how Felipe is performing this year. It's like children saying what heard at home.

i'm not considering FA a child :drunk:

sure, but that's about today's performance.

I may be mixing things up here (sorry) , it was just a general thought about how good is FA being clearly and constantly faster than FM and Seb being constantly and clearly faster than MW. In any condition and almost every track/tyre combination.


Remerber 2010 Vettel vs Webber.

Webber was better than Vettel, but this year, everybody says that blown difuser matches better Vettel style than Webbers.

We will see next year without it.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 22:00

Don't get your panties in a bunch :lol: ......


:cool: Don't have ugly things like this...living in a place where don't need this sort of plastic on my brown legs.......

But always with open mouth seeing people trying to put the spaniard in this "antipatic-hole"! :stoned:


#10742 Alarcon

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 23:33

Remerber 2010 Vettel vs Webber.

Webber was better than Vettel, but this year, everybody says that blown difuser matches better Vettel style than Webbers.

We will see next year without it.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


2010

Vettel: 1 WDC (1st), 5 victories, 10 pole position, 256 points, 12-7 on qualy, 11-8 on race... 3 issues while he was leading

Webber: 0 WDC (3rd), 4 victories, 5 pole position, 242 points, 7-12 on qualy, 8-11 on race... 0 issues


:lol:

Edited by Alarcon, 24 September 2011 - 23:35.


#10743 arknor

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 00:25

The vast majority of Brits like Hamilton. The vast majority of Germans like Vettel. The ones you mentioned above are exceptions.

no its not loads of people dont like hamilton... hes more american than british these days anyway :rotfl:

back on topic its a pitty ferrari have the best car on the grid but not good enough drivers, if only massa didnt get hit in the head that time

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 00:40

back on topic its a pitty ferrari have the best car on the grid but not good enough drivers, if only massa didnt get hit in the head that time


:lol:

At least you could work on it and put some efforts at trying to not make so evident what you are up to with such oblivious and ridiculous comments. :stoned:

So Ferrari have the best car on the grid. I'm sure if we opened a poll, not even in this forum you'd find much people supporting that.

Edited by Clay, 25 September 2011 - 00:53.


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Posted 25 September 2011 - 08:23

That slide he did in FP3 was most impressive thing i have seen all year. It was beatiful. :love:

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:12

That slide he did in FP3 was most impressive thing i have seen all year. It was beatiful. :love:



Nice car control :)

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:38

Really? I see that as a compliment to Massa, he is saying that he has to do his best to be ahead of Massa (If I would have done a normal lap I would be 1 second behind where Massa is). He's always going to be criticized, if he says he's doing great laps he is arrogant, if he says he is constantly in front of Massa with no risks he would be a bad team mate. He's tired of being asked how bad Massa's performance is or how disappointing is getting "only" the 4th or 5th position on the grid is so he wants to make clear he's doing a great effort to get those results, is not like he's just cruising...



A compliment??? Remember he beat team mate by 1 second...???

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You know you can´t defend this but still you try. Yesterday was again a disrespectful thing from him. And I suspect he said as a "revenge" because the words of Massa saying Alonso´s victory on 2008 was illegal and Alonso knew what happened. That was also very disrespectful and indeed very stupid. I can understand in that side... but still what Massa said it´s so stupid to "revenge" it. Alonso was the deserved winner of that race, and next race at Fuji confirmed it (where Massa finished on Fuji with the best car of the grid? I can´t remember :p )

Edited by Alarcon, 25 September 2011 - 09:43.


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Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:52

A compliment??? Remember he beat team mate by 1 second...???

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You know you can´t defend this but still you try. Yesterday was again a disrespectful thing from him. And I suspect he said as a "revenge" because the words of Massa saying Alonso´s victory on 2008 was illegal and Alonso knew what happened. That was also very disrespectful and indeed very stupid. I can understand in that side... but still what Massa said it´s so stupid to "revenge" it. Alonso was the deserved winner of that race, and next race at Fuji confirmed it (where Massa finished on Fuji with the best car of the grid? I can´t remember :p )



You fail to understand the meaning of his words, basically he is saying that the only reason he is one second faster than Massa, it's because he did his best lap of the year plus taking a lot of risk. He is not saying he is faster than Massa for the sake of it, he is clearly giving you the reasons why he is one second faster than Massa, he is not trashing Massa at all. If for you facts equal to arrogant, then good for you ;)

Edited by kosmos, 25 September 2011 - 09:54.


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Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:27

Wooow, again.

What a beauty :up:
the irritating things is that he is still just 5th; nevertheless, with that car being that close to RB and Mclaren is just awesome.

I think we have a chance for podium and maybe, just maybe for a little bit more today.

Aaloooonsooo!

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:27

You fail to understand the meaning of his words, basically he is saying that the only reason he is one second faster than Massa, it's because he did his best lap of the year plus taking a lot of risk. He is not saying he is faster than Massa for the sake of it, he is clearly giving you the reasons why he is one second faster than Massa, he is not trashing Massa at all. If for you facts equal to arrogant, then good for you ;)



The meaning is: "I did an amazing lap because I´m an amazing driver and if not I would be like my team mate, 1 second behind". Just to explain he has a rubbish car and even with that he´s close to McLaren and his team mate is just 1 second behind him.

Even the most Alonso fan of the world could understand. That´s very disrespectful.

Nira Juanco didn´t ask about Massa, Alonso metioned his team mate first (as Alguersuari use to do too), as he did last time saying he´s beating him all the time in qualifying... Please a little bit of common sense.

Edited by Alarcon, 25 September 2011 - 10:30.