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#12101 Zava

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 09:50

What is a bit curious, Fernando Alonso has established himself as the best driver in the past two years, even with a mediocre car. Many people really hated him, but he consistantly showed what he is capable of.

Alonso moved back to Spain, maybe they had problems already at that time and that's why he wanted his family back withing striking distance.

off: I thought that by your argument on motorsportal of the team principals voting at the end of year, you should be congratulating Vettel on being the best driver of the field.  ;)

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#12102 BalazsF1

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:48

off: I thought that by your argument on motorsportal of the team principals voting at the end of year, you should be congratulating Vettel on being the best driver of the field. ;)


Okay, but we all know Red Bull didn't participate in the Formula-1 this year, they started an own league, the Red Bull-1... Fernando couldn't make up the one second difference Ferrari have had over the biggest part of the season. He extracted the last thousand of the second out of his car and was very consistent. No doubt, if he has a car which is not miles behind the best, he will walk away with the title. I am absolutely amazed by his talent.

#12103 prty

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:49

That's the funniest thing I've ever read on this thread. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Come on, dont be modest. Your posts are way funnier! :D

#12104 YellowHelmet

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:08

I'm not comparing fruit, i'm not even comparing the years in which two excellant drivers lost to their team mates, I'm just making the point that neither had a great season and neither handled it well.

which is a wrong conclusion.

one of them achieved in a criminal millieu (which raced against him) to overcome the odds and equal his teammate by the end of the season in points and having also achieved to be by equal points more often in front of the team mate than vice versa. --> under given circumstances this was a big achievement

the other lost by a margin to his teammate, some say because of private problems (girlfriend-problems) --> under given circumstances not very well handled.

#12105 cardin

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:07

So, it seems that on the 'who handles a split up better' it's Alonso 1 x Hamilton 0. Everybody agrees ?

Jesus.

#12106 Kvothe

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:08

which is a wrong conclusion.

one of them achieved in a criminal millieu (which raced against him) to overcome the odds and equal his teammate by the end of the season in points and having also achieved to be by equal points more often in front of the team mate than vice versa. --> under given circumstances this was a big achievement

the other lost by a margin to his teammate, some say because of private problems (girlfriend-problems) --> under given circumstances not very well handled.


Stop comparing, oh and you're missing the point.

Edited by Kvothe, 21 December 2011 - 12:08.


#12107 cardin

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:10

The problem is when you are so mentally weak that you cannot block out your personal problems for a few hours every couple of weekends and you stand around and pout like a child whose Mother wouldn't buy him a candy bar.


Your post and your sig don't connect very well.

#12108 cardin

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:12

Come on, dont be modest. Your posts are way funnier! :D


Why thank you. It's a shame I can't say the same about your posts. They are not even funny.

#12109 YellowHelmet

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:26

Stop comparing, oh and you're missing the point.

1) dont tell me what to do
2) i was giving important details which you havent in your poor comparison.

but
3) unnecessary to debate about it.

#12110 69dude

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:31

What is a bit curious, Fernando Alonso has established himself as the best driver in the past two years, even with a mediocre car. Many people really hated him, but he consistantly showed what he is capable of.

Alonso moved back to Spain, maybe they had problems already at that time and that's why he wanted his family back withing striking distance.


Dream on

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#12111 Clatter

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:40

i can tell you frome experience, that sometimes marriages do just break up suddenly.


I did say "normally", but in general there is an underlying problem that leads to a breakup, but that problem can also be one-sided and the other party doesn't realise there is an issue.


#12112 as65p

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:58

I did say "normally", but in general there is an underlying problem that leads to a breakup, but that problem can also be one-sided and the other party doesn't realise there is an issue.


That's talking from our (the male) perspective. Females would never miss to notice problems. To them, there are always problems anyway, and if really not, it comes natural to create a few out of the blue...  ;)

#12113 speng

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 13:03

The problem is when you are so mentally weak that you cannot block out your personal problems for a few hours every couple of weekends and you stand around and pout like a child whose Mother wouldn't buy him a candy bar.

much nonsense here

#12114 FTATRWeSaluteYou

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 13:13

Shame, Raquel was the hottest wife/girlfriend in F1.

#12115 cardin

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 13:16

Shame, Raquel was the hottest wife/girlfriend in F1.


Well, she is still hot. And now she is available.

#12116 IceSkyrim

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 13:40

So, it seems that on the 'who handles a split up better' it's Alonso 1 x Hamilton 0. Everybody agrees ?

Why ?
Comparing marriage to racing cars...
Hamilton lost controll, but managed to save it, while Alonso left the track for good and DNF.

To me, it is clear that Rachel wanted more time - kids ? - together while Nando wanted to focus on a Ferrari WDC.

Is Ferrari becoming an obsession to Fernando ?


#12117 Kvothe

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 13:52

1) dont tell me what to do
2) i was giving important details which you havent in your poor comparison.

but
3) unnecessary to debate about it.


1. It actually feels like debating with a child. I wasn't giving a command i was pointing out the irony in your post considering you made the point a few posts ago that you can't compare the two.

2. The difference is i wasn't trying to make a comparison, hence the superficiality.

3 With you a debate is always unneccesary.

Edited by Kvothe, 21 December 2011 - 13:53.


#12118 flowerdew

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:00

Why ?
Comparing marriage to racing cars...
Hamilton lost controll, but managed to save it, while Alonso left the track for good and DNF.

To me, it is clear that Rachel wanted more time - kids ? - together while Nando wanted to focus on a Ferrari WDC.

Is Ferrari becoming an obsession to Fernando ?

Zomg, can we please get back to how Alonso has a heart 3 sizes too small w/r/t poor young Alguersuari's cruel dismissal by Toro Rosso?

#12119 YellowHelmet

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:13

1. It actually feels like debating with a child. I wasn't giving a command i was pointing out the irony in your post considering you made the point a few posts ago that you can't compare the two.

2. The difference is i wasn't trying to make a comparison, hence the superficiality.

3 With you a debate is always unneccesary.

debating each other is not the matter, so let us stop with this, and let us go back to topic:
and therefore i'll repeat myself, where i have outlined the differeces:

one of them achieved in a criminal millieu (which raced against him) to overcome the odds and equal his teammate by the end of the season in points and having also achieved to be by equal points more often in front of the team mate than vice versa. --> under given circumstances this was a big achievement

the other lost by a margin to his teammate, some say because of private problems (girlfriend-problems) --> under given circumstances not very well handled.


+ one more difference:
in 2011: alonso had a hard time in private life, which lead to the divorce, but he drove at his best
hamilton had a hard time in private life, which lead to the break-up and drove not that good.

nothing really important, but it should not be forgotten.

Edited by YellowHelmet, 21 December 2011 - 14:14.


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#12120 Kvothe

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:15

debating each other is not the matter, so let us stop with this, and let us go back to topic:
and therefore i'll repeat myself, where i have outlined the differeces:
one of them achieved in a criminal millieu (which raced against him) to overcome the odds and equal his teammate by the end of the season in points and having also achieved to be by equal points more often in front of the team mate than vice versa. --> under given circumstances this was a big achievement

the other lost by a margin to his teammate, some say because of private problems (girlfriend-problems) --> under given circumstances not very well handled.


+ one more difference:
in 2011: alonso had a hard time in private life, which lead to the divorce, but he drove at his best
hamilton had a hard time in private life, which lead to the break-up and drove not that good.

nothing really important, but it should not be forgotten.


I'm done banging my head.

#12121 Les

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:17

Well, she is still hot. And now she is available.


Well yeah but not to anybody on here she isn't!

#12122 puxanando

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:22

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Is Ashley Hart the new women in Fernandos life? :|

#12123 cardin

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:27

Schumacher won, like, 4 championships in a row when he got children so I guess its not that important.

Good luck Fernando!


I had an extraordinary novel idea !!! The idea is that people are different and react differently to events in their life. Think about it.

#12124 YellowHelmet

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:30

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Is Ashley Hart the new women in Fernandos life? :|

hope not, he deserves better.

#12125 cardin

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:34

Well yeah but not to anybody on here she isn't!

Of course not to anybody but I wouldn't mind asking, nicely. :)

#12126 F1Johnny

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 14:38

I had an extraordinary novel idea !!! The idea is that people are different and react differently to events in their life. Think about it.


:clap: :clap: :up:

#12127 AlanWake

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 15:16

To me, it is clear that Rachel wanted more time - kids ? - together while Nando wanted to focus on a Ferrari WDC.


I think it might be the case.

#12128 kosmos

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 15:34

I think it might be the case.



I think it's the same for both, she has a music band, and let's say is not the hottest thing in Spain, so she have to work harder, record, rehearse and go on tour (like other musician), in the other hand, Fernando spend almost all his time, travelling around the world, racing and working in Maranello. It looks to me like their professions are not compatible, or they can make it work. About the kids, she is the one who has to sacrifice his career to have kids, and she has worked very hard to reach where she is, so yeah.

Anyway, can't wait for the WROOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM, to get real racing news.

#12129 AlanWake

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 15:37

Anyway, can't wait for the WROOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM, to get real racing news.


:up:

#12130 Smile17

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 16:18

Is Ashley Hart the new women in Fernandos life? :|


Can you please stop with these childish comments?


I think it might be the case.


Yes it might, but to me it didn't look like that. She has always stated that she doesn't want children, right now. The only thing she wanted is doing more concerts. Normally she just stays in Spain, but this year she was all over the world (especially with the album recording in LA) So I doubt that would be the reason for their split. The situation just got unworkable it seems.

About Hamilton and Nicole, it's absurd to compare it with this. I just don't think relationships can be compared. Totally different. Add to that the fact that we know absolutely nothing of what really might be going on.

Edited by Smile17, 21 December 2011 - 16:18.


#12131 freya

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 17:47

says something about you ;)



Believe me it doesn't. Most of people on this forum that had the experience think exactly like him. :D

#12132 Tifosi4ever

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 18:24

Schumacher won, like, 4 championships in a row when he got children so I guess its not that important.

Good luck Fernando!


Schumacher won a race hours after his mother died!!! I don't think that you can put Schumacher in the normal emotional state of a person. He was more like a robot.

#12133 prty

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 19:45

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According to this forum it's a swiss/russian girl, she doesnt look bad :p

http://www.forocoche...48#post99165848



#12134 Smile17

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:42

According to this forum it's a swiss/russian girl, she doesnt look bad :p

http://www.forocoche...48#post99165848


If you believe in cheap press... I think it's very unrespectful.

Edited by Smile17, 21 December 2011 - 20:46.


#12135 Mackey

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:15

I usually don´t like to talk about the driver´s private life, but if this girl is really Alonso´s new girlfriend....

http://s3.amazonaws....3wyeo4_1280.jpg

Way to go Fer!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

#12136 showtime

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:30

I usually don´t like to talk about the driver´s private life, but if this girl is really Alonso´s new girlfriend....

http://s3.amazonaws....3wyeo4_1280.jpg

Way to go Fer!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:


Alonso must be Dorian Grey...

#12137 Jovanotti

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:32

I usually don´t like to talk about the driver´s private life, but if this girl is really Alonso´s new girlfriend....

http://s3.amazonaws....3wyeo4_1280.jpg

Way to go Fer!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:


Xenia Tchoumitcheva - forget it. ;)

#12138 Smile17

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:38

I usually don´t like to talk about the driver´s private life, but if this girl is really Alonso´s new girlfriend....

http://s3.amazonaws....3wyeo4_1280.jpg

Way to go Fer!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:


Just a shame it isn't his gf. Since when have you guys sinked so deep and started liking these so called 'models' and believing in these made up fantasy story's?

Edited by Smile17, 21 December 2011 - 21:39.


#12139 Mackey

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:48

Just a shame it isn't his gf. Since when have you guys sinked so deep and started liking these so called 'models' and believing in these made up fantasy story's?


Relax, man. I don´t care about who Alonso or any other driver is dating or not, that pertains to their private life and this is not the forum to discuss about it. Having said that, i just saw the photos of Alonso with that gorgeous girl and IF it´s the case she is his new girlfriend then good for Alonso IMO.

PS. I won´t discuss this topic anymore.


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#12140 purplejohn

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:53

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#12141 fabr68

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:57

Back to Formula 1.... Never underestimate Alonso's capability to move on... ;)

#12142 Tonka

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:57

More arguments about coming second ?



#12143 xxiiooiixx

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 21:58

5 years since he won a championship around the same time he married Raquel del Rosario! Maybe without a wife Alonso will win a championship again this year, since he doesn't need to make time for a wife and can now fully commit himself mentally to racing! not saying she was the reason but it doesn't have to be all negative! The same goes for Hamilton

#12144 Gyan

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 23:30

You'd think an average F1 fan would know this.... I can answer this question for every single driver on the grid in a heartbeat.


What a silly statement to make.

I don't care about what drivers do off the track. This news item piqued my curiosity for the first time regarding Alonso's personal life. Apart from Button's and Hamilton's girlfriends who always appeared on the TV at races, I don't anyone else's because there is frankly no need.

Knowing about drivers families is not a prerequisite to be an F1 fan.

Edited by Gyan, 22 December 2011 - 00:00.


#12145 kosmos

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 13:27

Some nice words from Montezemolo.

"Al igual que en 2010 ha hecho una gran temporada tanto en carrera como trabajando con el equipo y en el fin de semana, lo que siento es que no haya tenido un gran coche"


"Ahora mismo, y soy viejo en esto, Alonso es el mejor de la parrilla especialmente en carrera, en términos de capacidad, velocidad, experiencia, consistencia, frialdad durante la carrera, relación con el equipo, etc. Desde Michael no veía un piloto capaz de dar 70 vueltas de calificación seguidas".


http://www.marca.com...1324546296.html


Free translation.

Like in 2010 he has had a great season both in races and working with the team and also in the weekend, I'm sorry that he couldn't have a great car


Right now, and I am an old "dog" in this, Alonso is the best of the grid, specially in the race, in terms of capacity, speed, experience, consistency, coldness during the race, relationship with the team, etc.. Since Michael I did not see a driver capable of 70 consecutive qualifying laps


Edited by kosmos, 22 December 2011 - 13:28.


#12146 kosmos

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 13:43

Christmas video (best whises) from Ferando and Felipe.

http://events.ferrar..._term=400891182

#12147 puxanando

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 19:46

Seems there is a new love in Fernandos life!

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#12148 Tifosi4ever

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 19:48

Seems there is a new love in Fernandos life!

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That photo was taken 25 years from now. Presumably by then rich people will be able to un age :D

#12149 Watkins74

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 19:53

I guess I am in the minority but I wish we would stick to racing on this thread. :|

#12150 nimbus111

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 19:59

That photo was taken 25 years from now. Presumably by then rich people will be able to un age :D


:rotfl: :rotfl: