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#13501 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 14:29

Beautiful..

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#13502 puxanando

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 14:54

Beautiful..

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:love: Fernando The Horse (F2012) whisperer!

#13503 kosmos

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 14:54

Eveything in B&W will be better.

I'm really surprised by Fernando's twitter account, he is updating it a lot and with great stuff, his manager is posting some cool pics too in his own twitter, should we post this kind of stuff here?. I know that some people don't want this thread to be full of pics, that's why I'm asking.

#13504 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 15:02

Eveything in B&W will be better.

I'm really surprised by Fernando's twitter account, he is updating it a lot and with great stuff, his manager is posting some cool pics too in his own twitter, should we post this kind of stuff here?. I know that some people don't want this thread to be full of pics, that's why I'm asking.


I think it is appropriate. This thread is all about Fernando. And 99% of his twitter is related to F1 in one way or another. :up:

#13505 puxanando

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 15:20

I think it is appropriate. This thread is all about Fernando. And 99% of his twitter is related to F1 in one way or another. :up:

:up: THIS

And in other driver threads are even more pics than here!

#13506 kosmos

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:52

New blog entry.

http://www.ferrari.c...ling-faces.aspx

#13507 kosmos

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:20

Fernando Alonso ‏ @alo_oficial

Today more physical tests, stress test, power.. I bet a dinner with @fabrifisio that I improve 2011 numbers..;))

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#13508 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:57

Working out

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#13509 topical

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 13:07

Almost like those infamous Princess Di pics :lol:

#13510 kosmos

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 13:49

Guess how won the bet? :rotfl:

Fernando Alonso ‏ @alo_oficial

These tests are made to plan next weeks of training

Fernando Alonso ‏ @alo_oficial

@fabrifisio and @Edo_osteo pay dinner tonight...;)))! Power 2011: 1281 watt. Today 1364 watt...;)


He posted a video of the test. http://www.twitvid.com/G9KJL

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 13:58

Guess how won the bet? :rotfl:


So we finally get to know why only one win in 2011. Nothing to do with the car, just Alonso being underpowered by 80 Watts, the lazy bugger!

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 14:12

Pics posted by crucialxtreme are old I think. Saw exactly the same earlier this year...
Anyway, must be glad he's heading straight to Oviedo after these tests.

#13513 kosmos

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 14:46

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#13514 as65p

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 14:49

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Revealed: how radio message cost Saubers new star victory

Now that should be a fun read! :drunk:

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 15:14

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"Shock win inspires title bid with radical Ferrari update planned".

What does it mean :confused:

A radical update in a radical Ferrari will turn it into an ordinary one :drunk:

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 19:57

Alonso not a worry according to Button.

Write him off at your own peril Mr.Button, those words will come back to haunt you.

Edited by Gintonious, 28 March 2012 - 19:58.


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Posted 28 March 2012 - 20:04

"Shock win inspires title bid with radical Ferrari update planned".

What does it mean :confused:

A radical update in a radical Ferrari will turn it into an ordinary one :drunk:

Well, since one of the more radical parts had to be changed to something leass radical, maybe they mean changing back to that part? Would be interesting to know what they mean by that though.

#13518 puxanando

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 20:07

Alonso not a worry according to Button.

Write him off at your own peril Mr.Button, those words will come back to haunt you.


:smoking: Perhaps in end of season he has to eat This words.....


#13519 Gintonious

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 20:28

Writting off Alonso now? Silly move.

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#13520 Smile17

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 20:54

Writting off Alonso now? Silly move.


Alonso not, but Ferrari? It's nothing new, the car is just that bad. The Scuderia needs a massive boost from the upcoming upgrades... I would love them to mount a challenge starting from Spain, but the chances are small and the rest is not standing still.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:43

From yesterdays Q&A with @insideferrari, only stuff releated to Fernando.


Is it true we let Felipe do some testing during race?
- It is not true at all... Both drivers, Fernando even more, worked on different aero configurations on Fridays, as usual.

who in your opinion is the best driver that ever raced for ferrari?
- difficult question... In the modern age, Michael and Fernando, but Kimi very very close to them as pure talent

Fernando spends a lot of time with team, doesn't he?
- Yes, true!! This is very positive

Is Fernando a classical music lover?
- Yes he is

Will you be able to give Alonso a car to fight with the best this year?
- Our target is to provide a competitive cars to both drivers

any two drivers past or present, who would the Scuderia choose for their ideal team
- Michael, Kimi, Fernando, Niki: this is our personal choice

Yo pienso que @alo_oficial es uno de los 10 mejores de la historia. En que puesto estaria para vosotros? (I think Alonso is one of the best in history. How does he rank for you.)

Seguro en los top 10.. (In the top 10 for sure)

what is the difference in Massa's car and Alonso's car?Y is massa lagging so much as both are equally talented
- The cars are the same...

why is Massa's car is slower by almost 10Kph on straight with DRS than Alonso's???
- This is not true

how come fernados car is faster than felipes i thought the cars were s'pose to be equal
- they are exaclty the same

Why Ferrari decided to go social this year (fernando on twitter&fb etc).
- Because we felt it was better to have a direct contact with the fans

Where is Alonso based now?
- In Spain

Fernando has told you something about his tatto??
- He does not need to ask for permission.... :-)

Do you think fernando win any title in Ferrari?
- 100% sure!!!



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Love the pic, but the headline is ridiculous, Nandokan (sandokan) the tiger of malaysia. :lol: , at least it gives credit to Alonso great job, Autosport not so much.


#13522 IceSkyrim

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:37

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Love the pic, but the headline is ridiculous, Nandokan (sandokan) the tiger of malaysia. :lol: , at least it gives credit to Alonso great job, Autosport not so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandokan

Quite interesting :up:

Sandokan creator is Italian and the "hero" fights against the British empire :lol:

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:29

Nice little article about Alonso's win:

http://blog.axisofov...won-by-men.html

Have to agree with most of it. Even if Alonso isn't happy with the car at the minute this must be one of his most satisfying wins. Wins like this is what makes motor sport so great, the competition is fierce and it's never easy, to prevail with such a car deficit was amazing.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:42

Nice little article about Alonso's win:

http://blog.axisofov...won-by-men.html

Have to agree with most of it. Even if Alonso isn't happy with the car at the minute this must be one of his most satisfying wins. Wins like this is what makes motor sport so great, the competition is fierce and it's never easy, to prevail with such a car deficit was amazing.


Prety funnily written. :up:

"the three harpies on SpeedTV" :lol:

#13525 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:05

Fernando:

In the mountain following the program of training: 19km run, 1h27min. This afternoon football with good friends..;)

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 13:32

Fernando:

In the mountain following the program of training: 19km run, 1h27min. This afternoon football with good friends..;)

Mr. Díaz is very very fit person. I went through the football part yesterday (watching it on the TV, LOL) Athletic B. created such a spectacle.

Edited by kvarbanov, 30 March 2012 - 13:32.


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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:34

Nice little article about Alonso's win:

http://blog.axisofov...won-by-men.html

Have to agree with most of it. Even if Alonso isn't happy with the car at the minute this must be one of his most satisfying wins. Wins like this is what makes motor sport so great, the competition is fierce and it's never easy, to prevail with such a car deficit was amazing.



could have been that incredible although Perez was right there in a Sauber. Just goes to show how solid drive, optimum strategy, and great pitstops can make the difference.

#13528 puxanando

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:39

i didnt know that alonso was maricon :confused:


And NOW you know it? :drunk:


#13529 TheBunk

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:51

i didnt know that alonso was maricon :confused:

:rolleyes:

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:15

Well come on, Button is just stating the obvious that Ferrari just isn't ready to fight for pole positions or wins, right now they are in the middle of the pack and it's impossible to win a WDC from there.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 23:29

i didnt know that alonso was maricon :confused:


Well it's not the first rumor about that:

http://www.youtube.c...Iab1ZWE#t=1m34s

;)

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#13532 kosmos

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:32

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Thank to joseluis on twitter.

Very nice comments from Hembery to Fernando.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:32

Well come on, Button is just stating the obvious that Ferrari just isn't ready to fight for pole positions or wins, right now they are in the middle of the pack and it's impossible to win a WDC from there.


Every year it's always the same thing, isn't it? Alonso is the best driver, it just doesn't show because the poor guy is always getting screwed over by his team or car or windtunnel etc.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:35

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Thank to joseluis on twitter.

Very nice comments from Hembery to Fernando.


Anyone care to translate? Or summarise? Please... Thanks :)

#13535 puxanando

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:55

Anyone care to translate? Or summarise? Please... Thanks :)


Please!! ;)

Edited by puxanando, 31 March 2012 - 11:57.


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:59

Anyone care to translate? Or summarise? Please... Thanks :)


"Chi non vince cerca la scusa-pneumatici"

Those that aren't winning use the tires as an excuse

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:43

Anyone care to translate? Or summarise? Please... Thanks :)


Only the last part:

When drivers are uncompetitive they blame the tires;
Button took very good care of his tires in the first race
Hamilton made a step forward this year, as he has adapted his driving style
Webber improved his qualifying
Alonso is excepcional in adapting to tires

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:55

Only the last part:

When drivers are uncompetitive they blame the tires;
Button took very good care of his tires in the first race
Hamilton made a step forward this year, as he has adapted his driving style
Webber improved his qualifying
Alonso is excepcional in adapting to tires


In other words, another supposed expert talking crap.
Tyres DO have a huge influence on driver's competitiveness.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:57

Every year it's always the same thing, isn't it? Alonso is the best driver, it just doesn't show because the poor guy is always getting screwed over by his team or car or windtunnel etc.


At least that kind of stuff is still more credible than blaming car development when your teammate is faster in the same car.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:58

In other words, another supposed expert talking crap.
Tyres DO have a huge influence on driver's competitiveness.


:confused: How does that contradict what Hembrey says?

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:59

"Chi non vince cerca la scusa-pneumatici"

Those that aren't winning use the tires as an excuse


Hembury is obliged to defend his tyres. Mercedes are severely handicapped because the Pirelli's are simply not robust, nor versatile enough to cater for the characteristics of every car on the grid, unlike the Bridgestones. Either drivers and engineers conform to the narrow window the Pirelli's like to be driven, or damage your tyres over a stint and thus leaving you uncompetitive. Hembury is hardly going to do a Gerald Ratner and admit his tyres are a pile of sh1t, is he?


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 13:05

:confused: How does that contradict what Hembrey says?


"when drivers aren't competitive they blame the tyres" - i interpreted this as "drivers look for an excuse and blame the tyres when it's the driver who's to blame". i understand he has to defend the tyres but better say something honest like "all tyres have different characteristics. some tyres suit some drivers better than others"

#13543 kosmos

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 13:20

"when drivers aren't competitive they blame the tyres" - i interpreted this as "drivers look for an excuse and blame the tyres when it's the driver who's to blame". i understand he has to defend the tyres but better say something honest like "all tyres have different characteristics. some tyres suit some drivers better than others"


It's the duty of the driver to adapt to the tyres, and the same goes for the teams and cars, it's a viable excuse for sometime but you can't pull this car forever if you know what I mean.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 13:30

"when drivers aren't competitive they blame the tyres" - i interpreted this as "drivers look for an excuse and blame the tyres when it's the driver who's to blame". i understand he has to defend the tyres but better say something honest like "all tyres have different characteristics. some tyres suit some drivers better than others"


That's the same thing, only that your version declares it the manufacturers responsibility to design tyres that suite all drivers, whereas Hembery thinks (naturally) it's the drivers job to adapt to whatever they're given. Both you and Hemebery seem to value the importance of tyres.

It's impossible to achieve equality either way. No tyre manufacturer can design tyres that would please all drivers equally. The now mythic Bridgestones didn't suit many drivers, just as now with the Pirellis.

I think it's futile to argue about equipment that's the same for everyone, it's simply "learn to deal with it or get lost" for the drivers. I don't see how it could be any other way.

Most if not all of the tyre-related frustration on this board is from people who (rightly or wrongly) feel their man would do better on different tyres. Well, tough luck, they need to learn and deal with reality just as the drivers themselves.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 13:52

That's the same thing, only that your version declares it the manufacturers responsibility to design tyres that suite all drivers, whereas Hembery thinks (naturally) it's the drivers job to adapt to whatever they're given. Both you and Hemebery seem to value the importance of tyres.

It's impossible to achieve equality either way. No tyre manufacturer can design tyres that would please all drivers equally. The now mythic Bridgestones didn't suit many drivers, just as now with the Pirellis.

I think it's futile to argue about equipment that's the same for everyone, it's simply "learn to deal with it or get lost" for the drivers. I don't see how it could be any other way.

Most if not all of the tyre-related frustration on this board is from people who (rightly or wrongly) feel their man would do better on different tyres. Well, tough luck, they need to learn and deal with reality just as the drivers themselves.


Broadly speaking I agree with you. Alonso, for example, struggled with the Bridgestones and seems to be well-suited to the Pirellis, just like he was with the Michelin. Hamilton, on the other hand, seemed to go very well on the Bridgestones and has struggled a bit with the Pirellis. Swings and roundabouts, I guess. And yes, ultimately it is the driver's responsibility to adapt.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 14:01

Only the last part:

When drivers are uncompetitive they blame the tires;
Button took very good care of his tires in the first race
Hamilton made a step forward this year, as he has adapted his driving style
Webber improved his qualifying
Alonso is excepcional in adapting to tires

Thanks  ;)

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 14:47

That's the same thing, only that your version declares it the manufacturers responsibility to design tyres that suite all drivers, whereas Hembery thinks (naturally) it's the drivers job to adapt to whatever they're given. Both you and Hemebery seem to value the importance of tyres. Blah blah blah.


The performance window for the tyres is simply tooooooo f**king narrow. There is plenty of evidence the tyres Pirelli have designed to help the "SHOW", have on occasion been proven to be sub-standard. Spa last year was a glaring example. It had nothing to do with drivers, but was completely tyre related which preventing not only Red Bull, from running camber angles, which were easily attainable on the Bridgestone, without any issues. The Bridgestones could take anything, whilst the Pirelli's can't and it became a safety issue. Tyres are important yes, but they shouldn't dominate and be the most important factor. The Mercedes is a rocket-ship especially in qualifying, but the tyres hold them back in the race and it is sad. The Bridgestones would have masked some of their tyre wear issues, allowing the Mercs' to race competitively. But not the Pirelli's. One quick qualifying lap, then the rate the Mercedes degrade the Pirelli's, is much faster than any other team leaving them uncompetitive. Michelin/Bridgestones gave you a little scope allowing you to change suspension and camber geometries to ease tyre wear issues, but the Pirelli's just aren't flexible enough for Mercedes to implement a reasonable cure with their current chassis design. They are stuck

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 15:02

Fernando karting with some youngsters & others today. To me, another sign of his maturation process over the last few years. People are free to feel about him what they want, say he's arrogant, etc. But it's quite clear he's matured over the last few years both in his personal life & on the track.

Saturday of karting with future drivers! Some things didn't change at all ..;)))!



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All the friends for the "karting" adventure today! The oldest 38, the youngest just 6...all the same passion!! ;)

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#13549 kosmos

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 15:11

Fernando karting with some youngsters & others today. To me, another sign of his maturation process over the last few years. People are free to feel about him what they want, say he's arrogant, etc. But it's quite clear he's matured over the last few years both in his personal life & on the track.



Pretty amazing that he has time or even care to do this, the kids probably are over the moon. I hope at least one of those kids reach some day F1, for the sake of Spain.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 15:33

Pretty amazing that he has time or even care to do this, the kids probably are over the moon. I hope at least one of those kids reach some day F1, for the sake of Spain.


I agree, it's awesome he takes his personal time to do these sorts of things. People always go on about how "arrogant" they think he is, but he simply doesn't like the media. Some drivers crave attention from the media, Fernando is not one. And his reluctance to be all in the media is misplaced for arrogance. Agreed that this will inspire kids in Spain to pursue motorsports as a profession. Avanti Fer