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#2201 Lifew12

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 08:37

We can talk about Monaco for ages but Alonso was faster than Hamilton and if you look at the times lap by lap he would have never passed Alonso no matter how many laps he remained out pushing. He could only risk his 2nd place and McLaren 1-2 if a Safety Car took the lead. When you are faster you pick the best strategy because the only choice for the other driver is to start with a heavier car or a three-stopper. If two drivers pick the same strategy and one is faster you know what the result is beforehand.

You should have a look at Indianapolis where Alonso was faster FP1, FP2, FP3, Q1, Q2 and only Hamilton grabbed the pole because they gave Hamilton an extra lap so the rookie had a lighter car. That happened so many times during the season, so many times he took advantage of the extra lap... I could say Alonso's car in Bahrain was damaged as a lighting pod fell from the ceiling hitting his car and they had to have a look at it at Woking after the race but I think Hamilton did a better job there.

MONACO 2007: Hamilton accused his team of cheating against him during the FIA post-race press conference. That provoked an unfair investigation on Alonso and McLaren's victory in the Principality. Despite it all, Ron Dennis backed Hamilton before the media while avoiding to support Alonso's fantastic job in the amazing McLaren's 1-2 in the Monegasque GP. The team took no action whatsoever against Hamilton. During the race, Hamilton stepped over the continuous line when exiting the pit lane and he got away with it.

INDIANAPOLIS 2007: Pit stop strategies and team orders (rev. limit) were in favor of Hamilton and detrimental to Alonso. Alonso got p**sed off when the team ordered him to hold position and drive conservatively but he obeyed them. Of course, The FIA didn't investigate Hamilton's victory and Ron Dennis was delighted while he looked like attending a funeral in Monaco.

FRANCE 2007: Alonso faced problems with his gearbox cover during Q3 ending up on the tenth position of the starting grid. De la Rosa explained during the race that the defective part had been perfectly identified and removed.

GERMANY 2007: Many drivers slipped off the track when it was raining heavily. Despite what the rules say on that matter, a crane put Hamilton, and only him, back on the track under a high risk of collision with other drivers. Although the rules clearly specify that a driver must turn off his engine and get out of the car safely Hamilton was not penalised.

HUNGARY 2007: Despite the agreement with the whole team, Hamilton did not let Alonso take advantage of the extra lap he was entitled to on that Q3. After a controversial pit stop where they put worn tyres on Alonso's car, the Spanish managed to get the pole. Hamilton denounced his team and teammate before the Stewards and it cost McLaren the loss of points in the constructors' championship. Alonso got 5 grid penalty and, of course, Hamilton got away with it again.

ITALY 2007: Hamilton placed his car in the start box pointing to Alonso's. It was in clear breach of what the rules say about the start of a Grand Prix. There was no penalty for him nonetheless.

JAPAN 2007: Both Alonso and Hamilton had a racing incident with Vettel and Kubica respectively, but only the Pole was unfairly penalized despite the poor track conditions. The Spanish suffered serious damage on the back of his car and crashed into a wall a few laps later. Under the Safety Car, Hamilton skipped the rules completely causing an accident between two other cars. He got no penalty whatsoever, and the Stewards justified their decission because of the poor track conditions.

CHINA 2007: Alonso faced strange problems in Q3 after a flawless Q1 and Q2. The Spanish had been faster than his teammate in the three practice sessions but both tyre pressure and tyre warmers were not adjusted properly for the decisive round Q3. After the race, Ron Dennis admitted publicly that they were not racing against Raikkonen but against Alonso. The tyre warmers were sent to Woking for inspection.

Qualifying:

LH: 1:35.798 1:35.898 1:35.908
FA: 1:35.809 1:35.845 1:36.576
Df: Q1 0.011 Q2 0.053 Q3 0.668


Alonso and Hamilton are two racing drivers of the same caliber and only small details decide who beats who. In 2007, those small details almost always favoured Hamilton. Only a harsh penalty in Hungaroring decided the title in 2007 and the same thing might be said in 2010 about penalties so far.

From Monaco to Hungaroring Alonso did as much as he could to remain loyal to McLaren, it was Hamilton who denounce the team twice and he was always backed up by Ron Dennis. In the end Alonso didn't have any reason to trust his own team and he took revenge in Brazil 2007.



I actually feel sorry for you.

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#2202 Buttoneer

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 08:39

proof please

From Forix;
Seq. 	 Date 	 Circuit 	 Time 	 Laps 	 Car 	 Engine 	 Tyres 
1	1 Dec 2004	 Silverstone		21 	McLaren MP4-19	Mercedes FO110Q	M
2	19 Sep 2006	 Silverstone		9 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
3	20 Sep 2006	 Silverstone	1'20.857	64 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
4	21 Sep 2006	 Silverstone	1'20.158	47 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
5	10 Oct 2006	 Jerez	1'22.916	10 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
6	11 Oct 2006	 Jerez	1'18.192	89 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
7	12 Oct 2006	 Jerez	1'16.804	74 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
8	28 Nov 2006	 Catalunya	1'18.241	62 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
9	29 Nov 2006	 Catalunya	1'17.748	49 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
10	30 Nov 2006	 Catalunya	1'17.076	88 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
11	6 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'20.238	80 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
12	7 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'18.682	80 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
13	8 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'20.321	83 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
14	14 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'19.588	79 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
15	15 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'19.497	100 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
(apologies for formatting)

But please, this is an Alonso thread so lets not dwell on this issue.

#2203 skid solo

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 08:55

From Forix;

Seq. 	 Date 	 Circuit 	 Time 	 Laps 	 Car 	 Engine 	 Tyres 
1	1 Dec 2004	 Silverstone		21 	McLaren MP4-19	Mercedes FO110Q	M
2	19 Sep 2006	 Silverstone		9 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
3	20 Sep 2006	 Silverstone	1'20.857	64 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
4	21 Sep 2006	 Silverstone	1'20.158	47 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
5	10 Oct 2006	 Jerez	1'22.916	10 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
6	11 Oct 2006	 Jerez	1'18.192	89 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
7	12 Oct 2006	 Jerez	1'16.804	74 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	M
8	28 Nov 2006	 Catalunya	1'18.241	62 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
9	29 Nov 2006	 Catalunya	1'17.748	49 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
10	30 Nov 2006	 Catalunya	1'17.076	88 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
11	6 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'20.238	80 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
12	7 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'18.682	80 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
13	8 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'20.321	83 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
14	14 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'19.588	79 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
15	15 Dec 2006	 Jerez	1'19.497	100 	McLaren MP4-21	Mercedes FO108S	B
(apologies for formatting)

But please, this is an Alonso thread so lets not dwell on this issue.


Thanks for that. I have to be honest though I can't tell who is driving on which days. At the end of the day, Lewis was one of the last rookies to benefit from decent testing mileage and for sure that helped him as it did Jacque Villeneuve. For Alonso fans to defend their driver is unnecessary in my opinion, he was, is and continues to be one of the very best. He was hardly blown away by Hamilton was he, they finished equal on points and equal on wins. Before 2007 I would say he was along with Schumacher in the top two and with the departure of the fore mentioned we were looking at an Alonso procession. But for a young man from Stevenage it may well have been 4 championships by now.


#2204 Buttoneer

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 09:47

All of that is Lewis time, according to Forix. I don't think 935 laps, most of which were on a circuit not raced, compares to seven years of F1 racing experience.

I do think Alonso put in marginally the better performance over 2007, and ought to have won the WDC. All that happened is that he was somewhat surprised by the challenge.

#2205 K-One

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:02

lol

http://www.mirror.co...15875-22399621/

#2206 Raziel

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:06

lol

http://www.mirror.co...15875-22399621/


old :drunk:


#2207 moorsey

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:11

old :drunk:


The article is dated today.

#2208 kosmos

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:19

There is nothing wrong with that, you hardly can win the WCC with one rookie and one veteran driver, that's common sense. You expect the driver with experience to score many points and the rookie to learn, nothing more. Things turn out well for Hamilton, but that is an exception not the norm.

#2209 K-One

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:31

The article is dated today.


in today's internet society it's old

#2210 undersquare

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:37

There is nothing wrong with that, you hardly can win the WCC with one rookie and one veteran driver, that's common sense. You expect the driver with experience to score many points and the rookie to learn, nothing more. Things turn out well for Hamilton, but that is an exception not the norm.


I think the point was about Fernando's expectations, that he expected a rookie not even to be a good backup driver for the wcc. And then in the event he passes him into the first corner of the season and after 4 races is leading the championship.

So the suprise must have been collossal, and hard to deal with. Much harder than if he'd known going in that he had a challenging teammate.

#2211 K-One

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:39

In hindsight, he was right, they lost WCC ;-)

#2212 undersquare

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:43

In hindsight, he was right, they lost WCC ;-)


Yup, ironic really that it was Alonso who made that happen.

#2213 Massacrator

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:53

Yup, ironic really that it was Alonso who made that happen.

I'm glad Alonso made McLaren lose a WCC :up:

#2214 Dunder

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:56

I'm glad Alonso made McLaren lose a WCC :up:


............... and I am glad that as a result Alonso has spent the last 2 (about to be 3) years tottering around in the midfield. :up:

Edited by Dunder, 09 July 2010 - 11:56.


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Posted 09 July 2010 - 11:58

............... and I am glad that as a result Alonso has spent the last 2 (about to be 3) years tottering around in the midfield. :up:


Quite weird that he has been in midfield taking into account his development skills and curing engine problems

#2216 YellowHelmet

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:23

Quite weird that he has been in midfield taking into account his development skills

without them his team would have been even more further back, without any chance of winning!



and curing engine problems

:confused:

#2217 YellowHelmet

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:26

All of that is Lewis time, according to Forix. I don't think 935 laps, most of which were on a circuit not raced, compares to seven years of F1 racing experience.

the funny think is that lewis was off the pace on michelins!

those 935laps dont tell that lewis is more experienced in f1 BUT that he is more experienced with a mclaren!



I do think Alonso put in marginally the better performance over 2007, and ought to have won the WDC. All that happened is that he was somewhat surprised by the challenge.


i think alonso was surprised by the teatment in team, not about lewis skills!
He was used to drive against great drivers who sometimes beated him!
so nothing to be surprised with!

#2218 Massacrator

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:34

the funny think is that lewis was off the pace on michelins!

those 935laps dont tell that lewis is more experienced in f1 BUT that he is more experienced with a mclaren!





i think alonso was surprised by the teatment in team, not about lewis skills!
He was used to drive against great drivers who sometimes beated him!
so nothing to be surprised with!

I think both: Alonso was surprised by team treatment but also by Hamilton good performance, these both things made Fernando's performance worse that it would have been.

Hamilton, in the other way, was also surprised that he could compete with Fernando, and this helped him physcologically and made him have better performance (like an ego boost, we all know what i'm talking about).

Nowadays, I think Fernando is a lot better than Hamilton (Hamilton didn't really got any better than 2007, he won WDC in 2008 but because of lack of good rivals), and I'm sure than if he (Alonso) was this season in McLaren, he would be leading by a big margin, specially seeing the points difference between Button and Hamilton and Alonso and Massa.

#2219 Buttoneer

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:40

those 935laps dont tell that lewis is more experienced in f1 BUT that he is more experienced with a mclaren!

Do you think it is easier to move from F1 car to different F1 car or from GP2 car to F1 car?

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#2220 Yorkie

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:44

without them his team would have been even more further back, without any chance of winning!




:confused:

Renault dont seem to be doing too bad this year without Alonso

I think both: Alonso was surprised by team treatment but also by Hamilton good performance, these both things made Fernando's performance worse that it would have been.

Hamilton, in the other way, was also surprised that he could compete with Fernando, and this helped him physcologically and made him have better performance (like an ego boost, we all know what i'm talking about).

Nowadays, I think Fernando is a lot better than Hamilton (Hamilton didn't really got any better than 2007, he won WDC in 2008 but because of lack of good rivals), and I'm sure than if he (Alonso) was this season in McLaren, he would be leading by a big margin, specially seeing the points difference between Button and Hamilton and Alonso and Massa.

I thought you said that Massa wasnt a good rival? ;)

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:49

Renault dont seem to be doing too bad this year without Alonso


I thought you said that Massa wasnt a good rival?;)

Just as good or as bad as Button.

Remember that Massa almost won a WDC and he didn't have a car as superior as a Brawn.

Edited by Massacrator, 09 July 2010 - 12:50.


#2222 Yorkie

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:54

Just as good or as bad as Button.

Remember that Massa almost won a WDC and he didn't have a car as superior as a Brawn.

The Ferrari was more superior, the Brawn was no longer the quickest car in the second half of 2009, plus Button won the WDC with a race to spare, Massa came second

#2223 Tactical

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:02

Renault dont seem to be doing too bad this year without Alonso


Yep. Same car, same developments...

Stop that man. Renault knew Alonso was leaving and focused on 2010 season.

Cheers.




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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:03

Quite weird that he has been in midfield taking into account his development skills and curing engine problems


Renault admitted that last year they suffered from having a wind tunnel that wasn't operating as it should as a result development suffered. In the end that affected the development of the R29. This year they have a fully working wind tunnel and CFD along with a new life from new owners which has given the team life. Renault have bought more development to their car than McLaren this year but only get half as much praise.

The R28 went from being a midfield car to challenging Ferrari and McLaren for the podium in the later stages of 2008. In fact in the second half of the season Fernando scored more points that the championship contenders.

Edited by toxicfusion, 09 July 2010 - 13:04.


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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:06

............... and I am glad that as a result Alonso has spent the last 2 (about to be 3) years tottering around in the midfield. :up:


Yep. Increasing even more his reputation among the people he really needed to, increasing his driving skills even more, and confirming his possibilities to those who really understand what a good driver is.

You know, just winning races is not all. Respect is something not all drivers get at the end, and Alonso has plenty of it among many important people. I mean not us, simple beings feeling 'important' whenever we 'win' a dialectic battle in a... forum. Wow!

Cheers.

Edited by Tactical, 09 July 2010 - 13:10.


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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:10

Do you think it is easier to move from F1 car to different F1 car or from GP2 car to F1 car?

:confused: Why are you asking that! I think it is better to be totally integrated in a Team and uesd to their Cars and to bridgestones then to be not integraded, New with Car and tyres!

#2227 rko281

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:11

Yep. Same car, same developments...

Stop that man. Renault knew Alonso was leaving and focused on 2010 season.

Cheers.


:rolleyes:
Alonso is a great driver, but please give some credit to Renault and Kubica.
The same can be said about Ferrari who was the first team who announce in 2009 their focus on the 2010 car.


P.S.I remember a time when they weren't even sure they would be on the grid in 2010.

#2228 Tactical

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:18

:rolleyes:
Alonso is a great driver, but please give some credit to Renault and Kubica.
The same can be said about Ferrari who was the first team who announce in 2009 their focus on the 2010 car.


P.S.I remember a time when they weren't even sure they would be on the grid in 2010.


Kubica is for me one of the very best along with Alonso, so all the credit to him. But again, comparing the Renault from last year to the one we can see in 2010 is frankly very unfair at least, specially talking about development pace, which is dramatically higher this year.

Everyone being objective knows Alonso was superb driving past two years, and the very same people know Kubica is doing it really well too.

Cheers.


#2229 K-One

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:29

The R28 went from being a midfield car to challenging Ferrari and McLaren for the podium in the later stages of 2008. In fact in the second half of the season Fernando scored more points that the championship contenders.


Yes, due to cheating, not due to Alonso

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 13:36

Yes, due to cheating, not due to Alonso

Still, Alonso won two, one perfectly legit. Kubica still has to prove that can win one (which he will, I have no doubt, but still...).

#2231 toxicfusion

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 14:25

Yes, due to cheating, not due to Alonso


If you remove Singapore 2008 its the same story. The R28 was threatening Ferrari and McLaren in the later races of 2008.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 18:18

:confused: Why are you asking that! I think it is better to be totally integrated in a Team and uesd to their Cars and to bridgestones then to be not integraded, New with Car and tyres!

Like the difference between slick tyres on a GP2 car and grooved tyres on an F1 car?

#2233 Massacrator

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 18:24

Like the difference between slick tyres on a GP2 car and grooved tyres on an F1 car?

Well, Hamilton drives his street car, that has grooved tyres :rotfl:


Now seriously, we all know that if you want to drive a car with grooved tyres you have to do a three year course, we saw everyone in F1 struggling when they changed tyres! It was very unfair for Hamilton! :rotfl:

#2234 Yorkie

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 19:28

Yep. Same car, same developments...

Stop that man. Renault knew Alonso was leaving and focused on 2010 season.

Cheers.

They knew in 2008?

Renault admitted that last year they suffered from having a wind tunnel that wasn't operating as it should as a result development suffered. In the end that affected the development of the R29. This year they have a fully working wind tunnel and CFD along with a new life from new owners which has given the team life. Renault have bought more development to their car than McLaren this year but only get half as much praise.

The R28 went from being a midfield car to challenging Ferrari and McLaren for the podium in the later stages of 2008. In fact in the second half of the season Fernando scored more points that the championship contenders.

But i thought Alonso's development skills would turn things aroung anyways, afterall he seemed to get most of the praise for the 2007 McLaren (he brought 6 tenths) and for the improved performance of the Renault in the second half of 2008

#2235 Yorkie

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 19:33

Well, Hamilton drives his street car, that has grooved tyres :rotfl:


Now seriously, we all know that if you want to drive a car with grooved tyres you have to do a three year course, we saw everyone in F1 struggling when they changed tyres! It was very unfair for Hamilton! :rotfl:

On the other hand its been said on this thread that Alonso will adapt better than other drivers to next years Pirellis?

#2236 Dunder

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 20:10

Yep. Increasing even more his reputation among the people he really needed to, increasing his driving skills even more, and confirming his possibilities to those who really understand what a good driver is.

You know, just winning races is not all. Respect is something not all drivers get at the end, and Alonso has plenty of it among many important people. I mean not us, simple beings feeling 'important' whenever we 'win' a dialectic battle in a... forum. Wow!

Cheers.


I don't think Alonso's abilities as a driver were ever in question.
Do you believe that Alonso himself would prefer what has happened as opposed to having a shot at winning championships the last two years? The situation at McLaren may well have become unsustainable even without what happened in the aftermath of Hungary but I don't think it is unreasonable to assert that Alonso made his own position totally untenable.


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Posted 09 July 2010 - 20:13

Well, Hamilton drives his street car, that has grooved tyres :rotfl:


Now seriously, we all know that if you want to drive a car with grooved tyres you have to do a three year course, we saw everyone in F1 struggling when they changed tyres! It was very unfair for Hamilton! :rotfl:


Hamilton obsession alert!!! :rolleyes:

FA looking good today, lets hope he doesnt screw up like he has done a few races. Keep it up :up:

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 20:57

I don't think Alonso's abilities as a driver were ever in question.
Do you believe that Alonso himself would prefer what has happened as opposed to having a shot at winning championships the last two years? The situation at McLaren may well have become unsustainable even without what happened in the aftermath of Hungary but I don't think it is unreasonable to assert that Alonso made his own position totally untenable.

As a neutral observer in 2007, I agree that Alonso didn't make things any easier for himself but the team played a big hand in how the whole thing panned out. It's hard fending off a talented driver/rookie while at the same time dealing with spygate and a team that switched allegiance midway through the season for whatever reason (I didn't care about the reasons then and I don't care now, but please don't tell me that they didn't switch). It must have been tough for a young guy like Alonso. The relationship was just not gonna work since Alonso wanted number one status and Mclaren had invested a ton in Hamilton's career up until then and they sure as hell were not going to let the Hamster go, especially after the speed he showed. All in all Mclaren got what they wanted, a fast young driver in Hamilton who they could build a team around. So, if you ask me, Alonso got the short end of the stick since all the top teams had already commited to other drivers and he had to spend 2 seasons in the doldrums. But hey, such is life, I'm sure all parties involved learnt something along the way.

#2239 toxicfusion

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 22:18

But i thought Alonso's development skills would turn things aroung anyways, afterall he seemed to get most of the praise for the 2007 McLaren (he brought 6 tenths) and for the improved performance of the Renault in the second half of 2008


Their wind tunnel was giving results which didn't map with what occurred on the track it took, I think, over half of the season for them to get on top of it, by which point they were massively behind.

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#2240 Yorkie

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 22:53

Their wind tunnel was giving results which didn't map with what occurred on the track it took, I think, over half of the season for them to get on top of it, by which point they were massively behind.

I was just trying to point out, who makes a quick car, the engineers or the driver?

#2241 Anssi

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 23:00

I was just trying to point out, who makes a quick car, the engineers or the driver?



[sarcasm]

It depends on which driver is in the team. If Alonso is in the team, Alonso made the car quick. If Kimi is in the team, it definitely cannot be him, just because.

[/sarcasm]




Ouch, ouch! :cat: :kiss:

#2242 Les

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 23:00

For some reason I had a dream last night where Alonso returned to Renault as team-mate to Kubica for Silverstone as Ferrari had failed to live up to his expectations. Sad I know.

Anyway I enjoyed his save at Copse today and it would be good to see him put in a challenge this weekend or the McLarens and Red Bulls are going to run away with the thing.

#2243 syph0nJZ05

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 23:22

Well, Hamilton drives his street car, that has grooved tyres :rotfl:


Now seriously, we all know that if you want to drive a car with grooved tyres you have to do a three year course, we saw everyone in F1 struggling when they changed tyres! It was very unfair for Hamilton! :rotfl:

I was replying to somebodies (YellowHelmet's) suggestion that it would be harder to go from an F1 car to another F1 car with a different tyre compound, than it would be to go from an entire different racing series to F1 and change the actual shape of the tyre. So your complete fail at sarcasm is completely unfounded.

Edited by syph0nJZ05, 09 July 2010 - 23:26.


#2244 kosmos

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 05:00

Another great interview with Alonso, in spanish.

http://www.as.com/mo...dasdaimot_1/Tes



#2245 YellowHelmet

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 13:21

3rd today! without traffic about 4 tenths behind the rb!
ferrari improved a lot, but still need some more tenths!
maybe a 2nd place tommorow will be possible!

#2246 MichaelPM

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 13:22

This is the most unlucky year for Alonso.
Ok sure he never had a chance to challenge the RBR's but his final flying lap being ruined by Rubens nearly lost him 3rd.
When it happened I looked at live timing and saw Hamilton 0.1 seconds faster than Alonso in S1 and matching him in S2 with S3 soon to be completed. I honestly thought given the lack of luck Alonso has this year Hamilton will steal 3rd position with Alonso unable to complete his final flying lap.

Thankfully Alonso kept 3rd but this situations should never happen.

#2247 YellowHelmet

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 13:24

This is the most unlucky year for Alonso.
Ok sure he never had a chance to challenge the RBR's but his final flying lap being ruined by Rubens nearly lost him 3rd.
When it happened I looked at live timing and saw Hamilton 0.1 seconds faster than Alonso in S1 and matching him in S2 with S3 soon to be completed. I honestly thought given the lack of luck Alonso has this year Hamilton will steal 3rd position with Alonso unable to complete his final flying lap.

Thankfully Alonso kept 3rd but this situations should never happen.

i thought it was ms and rubens :confused:

#2248 kosmos

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 13:25

Fantastic job today. I have high hopes for tomorrow. We know that RedBull is not that strong on race and the race is something that Alonso manages very well. The start is the key, let's hope Lewis is behind us after lap 1.

#2249 gaston_foix

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 13:25

The race is tomorrow. We had a very good start in the last races.. Webber is a good target at start...

#2250 Hole

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 13:54

Amazing.


When Alonso has a car 0.5s slower than Hamilton's McLaren, their fans say "Hamilton beat a 2XWDC. But when the cars are mostly tied and Alonso gets ahead, it is all due the front wing :rotfl:

Alonso could get 2nd, so I'm really happy about his position today.