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#201 Mandzipop

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#202 Katsumi

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 22:55

http://www.jamesalle...out-schumacher/

:rolleyes: Schumacher, who helped building up this team again ... While ... You, Alonso ... Didnt do sh!t yet for Ferrari? Are seriously saying Ferrari is better of without Schumacher? You, who didnt win a single WCC / WDC yet with them, still need to start the 5th race for Ferrari. Alonso, you dont have the guts, balls, intelligence nor charism to ever be such as great of a asset to Ferrari what Schumacher was.

Alonso? You will dream about the day you have as much as respect at Ferrari as Schumacher deserved. that will never happen because Schumacher deserved his respect on track not off track. Will talk to you Alonso when you win your 4/5/6th WDC with Ferrari ... :wave:

#203 showtime

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 23:43

I think you didn't understand at all what he was trying to say. The fact that Schumacher achieved so many things with Ferrari made the team a prisoner of their own past success, get rid of his long shadow was necessary to start a new era. Alonso doesn't want to be Schumacher, he just wants to be himself and work with Ferrari the way he thinks it's better. It wouldn't help having Michael around, keeping things his way even when he wasn't driving any more.

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 05:16

http://www.jamesalle...out-schumacher/

:rolleyes: Schumacher, who helped building up this team again ... While ... You, Alonso ... Didnt do sh!t yet for Ferrari? Are seriously saying Ferrari is better of without Schumacher? You, who didnt win a single WCC / WDC yet with them, still need to start the 5th race for Ferrari. Alonso, you dont have the guts, balls, intelligence nor charism to ever be such as great of a asset to Ferrari what Schumacher was.

Alonso? You will dream about the day you have as much as respect at Ferrari as Schumacher deserved. that will never happen because Schumacher deserved his respect on track not off track. Will talk to you Alonso when you win your 4/5/6th WDC with Ferrari ... :wave:


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Hang on, man! :D He hasn't said anything like that. He is certainly referring to the years after Schumi's retirement, which has nothing to do with his results as a driver. It's widely assumed that Kimi was feeling uncomfortable with MS being around all the time, in the role of an 'advisor'. (And maybe he advised Kimi what to do, how to do it? And maybe the Ferrari chiefs admired MS so much that they took his advice as granted, and 'forced' his opinion upon their current drivers? Just spectaculating...)
I understand why Fernando feels better in the team without Schumacher, who was one of his main rivals a couple of years ago, they fought for the WDC - and now, Schumi would be supposed to give him advice, he would have access to see his telemetry and maybe tell him what to do in order to improve, etc... I guess it's annoying for a driver. It was good for Felipe, because he relies on this help, but I think Alonso is rather a driver who likes doing it his own way.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 10:42

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#206 kosmos

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 12:47

More stuff about the match.

Soccer Match.

Alonso was the captain and scored two goals, drivers team won the match. Felipe one goal.

#207 otoelpiloto

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 12:53

More stuff about the match.

Soccer Match.

Alonso was the captain and scored two goals, drivers team won the match. Felipe one goal.


that's why 2010 world cup is spain's :clap: :clap: :clap:

#208 ZooL

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 20:47

Too many mistakes.

Alonso hits back: Not under pressure

Saturday 15th May 2010


Fernando Alonso rounded on his critics after being accused of making too many mistakes since moving to Ferrari this season.

Following his victory in the season opener in Bahrain Alonso was then involved in a first-corner collision with Michael Schumacher in the subsequent grand prix in Australia.

Rain during qualifying played havoc in Malaysia, with Alonso among a host of big names who started at the back of the grid after second guessing the weather and getting it wrong.

In China, the 28-year-old jumped the start and served a drive-through penalty before finally proving his worth again last Sunday in front of his home crowd in Spain by finishing second.

But on Saturday Alonso watched qualifying from the garage after putting his car in a barrier in final practice, with the damage meaning there was not enough time for his team to repair his car in time.

Alonso will now start from the pit lane, which means any chance of a points finish is virtually non-existent, and he is almost certain to relinquish second place in the Drivers' standings.

But as to his errors, Alonso snapped: "Do I think I've made too many mistakes this year?

"In Barcelona, where I was maybe under the most pressure, I did my best qualifying lap and had my best race.

"If, after 10 years in Formula One I still have to prove I do not feel pressure, then it's not worth talking about any more."

Alonso at least held his hands up to his Saturday shunt that saw him hit the barrier at Massenet heading into Casino Square which resulted in the loss of his right-front wheel.

But the resultant damage came as a major surprise.

"It was my mistake, but it was also very unlucky," he added.

"With an impact at 90 (kmh), you don't normally write off a chassis.

"Unfortunately the angle of impact with the barrier was such that the damage could not be repaired, and the rules don't let you use the spare chassis."

In starting from the pit lane, Alonso concedes he is now in "the worst possible place," but is refusing to give up hope.

He added: "We will do our best to bring home some points that can be useful for the classification."



#209 H2H

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 21:23


I'm a bit surprised by that mistake. It is not something one would expect from Fernando. I hope we see a great race by him.

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#210 Panktej

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 21:27

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Where is Schumacher??



#211 zeph

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 18:30

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days. After the glorious championships in 05/06, the 07 season with McLaren had all his detractors saying that he really wasn't that great after all if he could be beaten by a rookie. Then 2 lean years followed back at Renault, complete with scandals and all, adding fuel to the fire that the detractors had kept burning.
So the move to Ferrari is at once a blessing and a curse. A blessing because he is once again in a team with winning potential. A curse because more than ever before, the expectations are impossibly high. nothing less than the championship will do. He is with Ferrari right? The most succesful team in history? no more excuses, he can not fail. Forget the fact that Ferrari's performance has been mostly downhill since Schumacher left (Raikkonen's '07 championship notwithstanding).

I find it understandable that he makes more mistakes now than before. I don't think many F1-drivers have ever experienced similar pressure.

Detractors' rebuttals up next. :wave:

Edited by zeph, 16 May 2010 - 18:31.


#212 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 18:51

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days. After the glorious championships in 05/06, the 07 season with McLaren had all his detractors saying that he really wasn't that great after all if he could be beaten by a rookie. Then 2 lean years followed back at Renault, complete with scandals and all, adding fuel to the fire that the detractors had kept burning.
So the move to Ferrari is at once a blessing and a curse. A blessing because he is once again in a team with winning potential. A curse because more than ever before, the expectations are impossibly high. nothing less than the championship will do. He is with Ferrari right? The most succesful team in history? no more excuses, he can not fail. Forget the fact that Ferrari's performance has been mostly downhill since Schumacher left (Raikkonen's '07 championship notwithstanding).

I find it understandable that he makes more mistakes now than before. I don't think many F1-drivers have ever experienced similar pressure.

Detractors' rebuttals up next. :wave:

Agreed, especially with the last half.
Ferrari did horribly wrong when they did away with Schumacher et al to make way for, simply put, lesser people (in terms of a F1 team performance contribution). The great inertia they accumulated in the first half of the 2000s (may the 2005 seasono not fool you - it was purely down to the tyres) carried them for 2 more years (although the 2007 WDC owes far more to luck and circumstance than to anything else) but they started a decline that is still in the process.

I think that the Raikkonen era clearly showed how much an asset for the Ferrari team Schumacher and his "team" (Brawn, Todt, Stepney, etc.) were.

Now, the fresh start on the drivers' front is here and I can only hope that Alonso has so much strength, willpower and ambition, that he is "Schumacheresque enough" to help rejuvenate and rebuild the team. Raikkonen just added to the damage done since 2006. Can Alonso turn the tide and fix it? I hope so.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 18:54.


#213 ensign14

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 18:54

What's so stressful about being paid a gazillion quid for doing a job many people PAY millions to do AND get all the sex he can eat?

#214 VicR

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 18:55

It can't be THAT stressful when you have Luca di Montezemolo in your corner.

I bet other drivers in some smaller teams feel much more stress than Alonso.

#215 Seanspeed

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 18:55

I think every driver on the grid is under immense pressure to perform.

#216 wj_gibson

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 19:01

It took Alex Ferguson 4 years to achieve anything of note at Man Utd, during which there was no shortage of detractors lining up to call premature time on his tenure.

They were all wrong.

#217 VoRteX

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 19:10

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days. After the glorious championships in 05/06, the 07 season with McLaren had all his detractors saying that he really wasn't that great after all if he could be beaten by a rookie. Then 2 lean years followed back at Renault, complete with scandals and all, adding fuel to the fire that the detractors had kept burning.
So the move to Ferrari is at once a blessing and a curse. A blessing because he is once again in a team with winning potential. A curse because more than ever before, the expectations are impossibly high. nothing less than the championship will do. He is with Ferrari right? The most succesful team in history? no more excuses, he can not fail. Forget the fact that Ferrari's performance has been mostly downhill since Schumacher left (Raikkonen's '07 championship notwithstanding).

I find it understandable that he makes more mistakes now than before. I don't think many F1-drivers have ever experienced similar pressure.

Detractors' rebuttals up next. :wave:

maybe its pressure.
seems now he's adapting emotionally.
but motivated and optimistic,so i hope he gets full control soon.
it shows he's having fun lately. great starting point :cool:

#218 Leyser

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 19:16

I think nobody has more pressure than FA has these days.


Is pressure measured as internal feeling or as the greatness of the circumstances? If you're talking about the latter then it is interesting but still irrelevant to his performance, since in the former interpretation his anxieties are no different in substance than, say, those of his team-mate. When Paris Hilton goes to prison for her 1239879879th DUI she feels just as aggrieved as an innocent man sent up for god-knows-what. We are unable to experience other people's pressure or to take things in perspective in such a way as to care about their troubles (oh, the pressure at Ferrari!) while ignoring the greater picture (oh, the pay at Ferrari!).

In any cases, I don't think he needs such excuses/explanation. He's 6 races into his contract. Like most other tifosi, I'm very impressed with his abilities and firmly believe that we will all be happy together. :)

Edited by Leyser, 16 May 2010 - 19:17.


#219 zeph

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 19:29

Now, the fresh start on the drivers' front is here and I can only hope that Alonso has so much strength, willpower and ambition, that he is "Schumacheresque enough" to help rejuvenate and rebuild the team. Raikkonen just added to the damage done since 2006. Can Alonso turn the tide and fix it? I hope so.


Well, he should be given as much time as Schumi back then. It took him what, four or five years to build that team into the winning machine it became in 2000? but I don't think Alonso has that long. Nobody will give him four or five years. If he is not champion this year, it has to be next year or people will start to write him off.


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#220 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:07

Well, he should be given as much time as Schumi back then. It took him what, four or five years to build that team into the winning machine it became in 2000? but I don't think Alonso has that long. Nobody will give him four or five years. If he is not champion this year, it has to be next year or people will start to write him off.

Yes, he doesn't have as much time as Schumi had back in 1996 but, truth be said, Ferrari today is not in as bad a shape as it used to be in the first half of the 1990s.
The good thing is that we hopefully have a real team leader again, after Schumacher.

Signing Raikkonen was a huge mistake...Ferrari simply isn't a team that could operate effectively with an autistic driver interested in nothing but driving the car and collecting his cheque. It may be perfect for McLaren but Ferrari is an environment that requires a Surtees, a Lauda or a Schumacher to be successful. Let's hope that we can add "or an Alonso" to that list. While I could agree that this is a shortcoming of the team, it's also the fact of the matter.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 21:07.


#221 Lennat

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:11

Yes, he doesn't have as much time as Schumi had back in 1996 but, truth be said, Ferrari today is not in as bad a shape as it used to be in the first half of the 1990s.
The good thing is that we hopefully have a real team leader again, after Schumacher.

Signing Raikkonen was a huge mistake...Ferrari simply isn't a team that could operate effectively with an autistic driver interested in nothing but driving the car and collecting his cheque. It may be perfect for McLaren but Ferrari is an environment that requires a Surtees, a Lauda or a Schumacher to be successful. Let's hope that we can add "or an Alonso" to that list. While I could agree that this is a shortcoming of the team, it's also the fact of the matter.


I agree, but I also think that Kimi simply didn't perform as well as he was excepted to in the car. He wasn't hired to match Massa.

#222 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:22

I agree, but I also think that Kimi simply didn't perform as well as he was excepted to in the car. He wasn't hired to match Massa.

Yes but it partly came from his lack of interest and technical knowledge (and partly from him being simply overrarted). McLaren could compensate for it, Ferrari not.
But it's not Kimi's fault - Ferrari knew who he is and yet signed him.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:32

And yet this underperforming Raikkonen was the 2007 champion :) I think he was the fastest guy on the grid, but he lacked the ambition or determination to give direction to an entire team. He just wants to go fast, and that's about the extent of it. That's how it appears to me, anyway.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:33

Yes but it partly came from his lack of interest and technical knowledge (and partly from him being simply overrarted). McLaren could compensate for it, Ferrari not.
But it's not Kimi's fault - Ferrari knew who he is and yet signed him.


I just watched the BBC Forum and you could clearly see that Alonso overtook Chandhok under yellow flag when Hulkenberg crashed - did anyone else notice that? the stewards didn't as it looks like...

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:34

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Does someone have a list of who was there? I see Heidfeld, Rosberg, Petrov and Alguersuari in the back row and Trulli, Vettel, Liuzzi, Massa, Di Grassi and Fernando in the front. And is that Heinz-Harald Frentzen?

#226 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:36

And yet this underperforming Raikkonen was the 2007 champion :) I think he was the fastest guy on the grid, but he lacked the ambition or determination to give direction to an entire team. He just wants to go fast, and that's about the extent of it. That's how it appears to me, anyway.

I agree. I wouldn't say he was the fastest but he was fast for sure. He was also not interested in anything else but driving (and that's very unfair towards his team, the sponsors who pay his huge wages and the fans).
About the 2007 title - that's a separate topic. Suffice to say that the 2007 WDC title was never won, it was lost or given away but never won. It's better not to talk about it at all. The results will remain as they are, that's enough.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 21:40.


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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:36

I just watched the BBC Forum and you could clearly see that Alonso overtook Chandhok under yellow flag when Hulkenberg crashed - did anyone else notice that? the stewards didn't as it looks like...

I've seen a screenshot on Atlas BB...it seems like a lapse by the stewards.
Or maybe Alonso gave the position back and repassed? I don't think the incident was seen at the live feed.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 21:37.


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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:42

Yes but it partly came from his lack of interest and technical knowledge (and partly from him being simply overrarted). McLaren could compensate for it, Ferrari not.
But it's not Kimi's fault - Ferrari knew who he is and yet signed him.


How do you know how much technical knowledge Kimi has?

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:46

How do you know how much technical knowledge Kimi has?

Let's not start it again, please.
Many F1 insiders spoke about it (Sauber said "His strengths are definitely not on the technical side", Domenicalli said "But if the car needs to be developed and the team fired up, Alonso is better" etc...) and it's obvious he is not the kind of a driver willing to spend endless hours analyzing telemetry after a testing session or trying out myriads of components.
His strengths are his natural talents, speed, car control and racing instincts. He is similar to Ickx or Peterson. i.e. unsuitable to this high-tech era.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 21:48.


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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:48

Suffice to say that the 2007 WDC title was never won, it was lost or given away but never won. It's better not to talk about it at all.


You make completely ridiculous remarks without any reasoning and then try to stifle the conversation. Pathetic. :rolleyes:

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:49

Let's not start it again, please.
Many F1 insiders spoke about it (Sauber said "His strengths are definitely not on the technical side", etc...) and it's obvious he is not the kind of a driver willing to spend endless hours analyzing telemetry after a testing session or trying out myriads of components.
His strengths are his natural talents, speed, car control and racing instincts. He is similar to Ickx or Peterson. i.e. unsuitable to this high-tech era.


Exactly. I don't know why Kimi fanatics argue this point at all. Its logged in the book. Hard facts. Kimi was brilliant but you sum it up perfectly, he wasn't a worker, he hated PR. He just wanted to drive a fast car at its limits and try and win some races. Then off home. Simples.

Edited by FrancoDeBoss, 16 May 2010 - 21:49.


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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:52

Let's not start it again, please.
Many F1 insiders spoke about it (Sauber said "His strengths are definitely not on the technical side",


Willy Rampf (Sauber): "During his first F1 season with Sauber he concentrated on what he was doing. Even if we lost some practise because of a technical problem he never panicked. It was clear from the very beginning that he was special...He knew exactly what he needed to make the car quick."


#233 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:53

Exactly. I don't know why Kimi fanatics argue this point at all. Its logged in the book. Hard facts. Kimi was brilliant but you sum it up perfectly, he wasn't a worker, he hated PR. He just wanted to drive a fast car at its limits and try and win some races. Then off home. Simples.

It may have worked in 1950s and 1960s but not any more since 1970s, as Stewart and Lauda set new standards, followd later by people like Prost, Senna and Schumacher.
I also strongly dislike his loathing of PR work because all the companies involved with F1 made the huge salary levels that he himself enjoyed possible.

#234 h_nair47

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 21:53

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Where is Schumacher??



MS has bad knees nowadays...there was an interview in which he said he cannot play football like he used to anymore or go jogging.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:02

I also strongly dislike his loathing of PR work because all the companies involved with F1 made the huge salary levels that he himself enjoyed possible.


Exunctly. Don't bite the hand that feeds you as they say.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:04

Willy Rampf (Sauber): "During his first F1 season with Sauber he concentrated on what he was doing. Even if we lost some practise because of a technical problem he never panicked. It was clear from the very beginning that he was special...He knew exactly what he needed to make the car quick."

OK, so then he lost that ability when he joined Ferrari.

BTW, this is one of the 2 available quotes favourable on Raikkonen's technical ability, that the Raikkonen fans (in an obviuos lack of any others) keep recycling here. I'll spare you the effort and quote it for you:

"The fact is, he is very sensitive to what makes a car quicker and is very intelligent, he just doesn't always give it all away. Based on my experience of when he was here he was a very committed development driver. When he spoke those few words they were always very valuable." (Whitmarsh)

Look, I give Raikkonen credit where it's due. I repeat: I recognize his natural talents, speed, car control and racing instincts. But don't try to make out of him what he clearly is not. As good as it was at McLaren (more or less), it was totally unsuitable for Ferrari and that's why signing Raikkonen was a big mistake. I do hope that Alonso can and will work differently, early signs are positive, despite me being very angry with him about all those silly mistakes.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 22:06.


#237 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:09

Exunctly. Don't bite the hand that feeds you as they say.

Exactly. If you get paid 50 or so millions of whatever per year, that money must have come from somewhere. And it's possible for it to come because F1 is such a big business. And it became such a big business because global multinational and international corporations were persuaded to recognize their interest, then put something in F1 and expected something in return. They certainly do not expect the WDC driver to refuse to do any PR work while being paid zillions.

Edited by pericles, 16 May 2010 - 22:16.


#238 Katsumi

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:17

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Is Trulli peeing in a bottle there?

Alonso acted like a complete spoiled little brad for waving at Di Grassi up to Beau Rivage, very sad, childish, egocentric and very selfish action from a 2 WDC who started himself in a Minardi. :down:

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Well done Fernando, you are not just a great driver but a great team player as well :up: :up: :up:

You did an amazing race but we don't want to see you driving from the back of the grid anymore!! 6 races and only you had 2 clean races (Bahrain and Spain), 4 races were from the back of the grid (Australia, Malaysia, China and Monaco). You know more than anyone else that there is no more room for mistakes. We believe in you! :up:

Edited by AlanWake, 16 May 2010 - 22:30.


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#240 pericles

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:31

Alonso certainly proved one thing so far in 2010: he can drive from behind (and boy, he can put himself behind as well :-))

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:38

Great drive by Fernando, and I am a huge fan of him and he really showed his calibre today, but it is simply unacceptable for the incident to have happened in the first place. He certainly knows this, and I hope that the next few races can be a bit cleaner and we can get back to the top step of the podium.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:38

I just watched the BBC Forum and you could clearly see that Alonso overtook Chandhok under yellow flag when Hulkenberg crashed - did anyone else notice that? the stewards didn't as it looks like...


Of course not, the stewards were too busy watching Schumi..


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Posted 16 May 2010 - 22:42


Every driver driving for Ferrari is under immense pressure. Nothing new there.
So if Alonso is feeling the pressure already, just after a couple of races, says alot about Alonso.



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Posted 17 May 2010 - 00:17

Every driver driving for Ferrari is under immense pressure. Nothing new there.
So if Alonso is feeling the pressure already, just after a couple of races, says alot about Alonso.


he's feeling any pressure at all, looks calmed, relaxed and happier than ever
:clap: GREAT RACE FERNANDO!!!

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 00:26

he's feeling any pressure at all, looks calmed, relaxed and happier than ever
:clap: GREAT RACE FERNANDO!!!


There's always pressure in f1, everyone feels it, but not everyone can use it, block some of it, and deal with it correctly from within.

Alonso and Schumacher have done alot of fine drives while under pressure, sometimes in some situations pressure actually helps to get down and focus, you have a target.


I don't think Alonso's drive was anything near the level of his sepang drive, he was helped by the safety car to get rid of tyres he needed to use, and for some reason the tyres at Monaco lasted to the end of the race with not much problem and that helped him also, normally in the past that wouldn't of happened.

So I don't get what was impressive about his drive, it was a good recovery, nothing more, but given the safety car and and 1 less tyre pitstop he had to make, it was more a display of factors coming to his aid then actual on track grit. His Sepang drive was much better.

And there's a big question mark regarding Alonso losing out to Schuey at the end. Alonso's weekend was punished by a mistake in Saturday practice, if you make mistakes in practice and or quali, it effects the race outcome, and I think Alonso didn't maximise his ferrari potential this weekend, and probabley should of been more hooked up on race day, challenging for pole. Ferrari lost out this weekend. There have been better recovery drives by him in the past and others.

Edited by SeanValen, 19 May 2010 - 02:20.


#246 gaston_foix

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 06:03

I think Fernando has a lot of pressure on his shoulders this year. He sees that RedBulls are faster than him, but in the same time he knows that Ferrari hired him to win the WDC. Fighting with the RedBulls will be a mountain to climb, this is not 05/06 anymore as RedBulls are much faster than Ferrari. We must trust in him because this WDC is hanging of Alonso vs RedBull battle.

#247 postajegenye

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 07:11

he's feeling any pressure at all, looks calmed, relaxed and happier than ever
:clap: GREAT RACE FERNANDO!!!


Yeah maybe he looks like that... but during interviews the drivers can always put on their happy face and come up with positive comments. You can't look into a driver's mind just watching him on the telly and reading press releases. For this reason, I can't judge whether Fernando is happy or relaxed or feeling under pressure etc... but it's a fact that he is making more (and usually big) mistakes this year than in his previous years in a top car.
In 2008, he was also making mistakes but I thought it was down to him pushing that Renault over the limit and risking a lot because because the WDC wasn't at stake so the points he lost didn't matter so much. But this year, he would easily lead the championship, by quite a margin, if it hadn't been for his mistakes. A proper start in Melbourne, or in China, or an accident-free FP3 now... he has thrown away many points this year, and this did not happen in '05 and '06.

I'm not too satisfied with his performance so far, yeah he has been really fast, but he should have exploited the problems of Vettel, Hamilton and co. and he should be leading the championship now, even if the Red Bulls are faster.

On the other hand, after making a mistake, his recovery drives are very good, so it could be much worse, but he shouldn't make those mistakes in the first place.

#248 Feanaro

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 10:23

There's always pressure in f1, everyone feels it, but not everyone can use it, block some of it, and deal with it correctly from within.

Alonso and Schumacher have done alot of fine drives while under pressure, sometimes in some situations pressure actually helps to get down and focus, you have a target.


I don't think Alonso's drive was anything near the level of his sepang drive, he was helped by the safety car to get rid of tyres he needed to use, and for some reason the tyres at Monaco lasted to the end of the race with not much problem and that helped him also, normally in the past that wouldn't of happened.

So I don't get what was impressive about his drive, it was a good recovery, nothing more, but given the safety car and and 1 less tyre pitstop he had to make, it was more a display of factors coming to his aid then actual on track grit. His Sepang drive was much better.

And there's a big question mark regarding Alonso losing out to Schuey at the end. Alonso's weekend was punished by a mistake in Thursday practice, if you make mistakes in practice and or quali, it effects the race outcome, and I think Alonso didn't maximise his ferrari potential this weekend, and probabley should of been more hooked up on race day, challenging for pole. Ferrari lost out this weekend. There have been better recovery drives by him in the past and others.

saturday practice :up:

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#249 zeph

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 10:50

I'm not too satisfied with his performance so far, yeah he has been really fast, but he should have exploited the problems of Vettel, Hamilton and co. and he should be leading the championship now, even if the Red Bulls are faster.

On the other hand, after making a mistake, his recovery drives are very good, so it could be much worse, but he shouldn't make those mistakes in the first place.


And this is exactly the kind of pressure I was talking about. Everybody makes mistakes. But when Alonso makes a mistake, it's a much bigger deal. People expect him to be perfect.


#250 Mackey

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Posted 18 May 2010 - 18:05

The Monaco Grand Prix was bittersweet for me. Clearly, in terms of the points I picked up, it was not good enough, especially as we were in the right shape to fight for the win. Following on from Barcelona, where we were not fast enough to win, on the Monaco track, where aerodynamics is less important, we were more competitive. When you have a car that is easy to drive, as is the case with the F10 - something which Felipe and I both realised immediately right from the first test in Valencia - it means you quickly feel confident with it. And that is vital on a track like this one.

Then, on Saturday morning, you all know what happened and sixth place on Sunday therefore had a very different flavour to it: this result should make the team proud of all they did in difficult circumstances. It’s never happened to me before, not to be able to take part in qualifying. It can happen that you go out in the early stages, because of a mistake or a technical problem, but to find yourself having to watch the screen right from the start, that was really cruel. But I think this incident brought us even closer together as a group: it’s at times like these that you get the measure of people and the entire team was amazing.

Sunday was very satisfying. We were aware that if we wanted to finish in the points, everything had to be perfect: the car, strategy, overtaking and tyres. And that was indeed the case. The first laps were very hectic, with six overtaking moves and then I had to try and make the most of the strategy, waiting for others to pit. From lap 28, I found myself sixth and, from that point onwards, my main aim was to manage the car and the tyres. We had only finished rebuilding the car a few hours earlier and to finish such a tough race without the slightest problem shows just how great the lads are. Then at the end came the incident with Michael: the pit wall had told me that, as the race was still under the Safety Car on the last lap, overtaking was not allowed and so I was calm and that was later confirmed by the Stewards, who put things right.

Now, we have to roll our sleeves up to push even more on the development of the car. We still have to make up some ground in terms of performance and as we are in the thick of the fight, we don’t want to leave anything to chance as we try and reach our goals.