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#851 Alan Cox

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 16:35

Probably my ex Tony Shelly 18/21

Indeed, Peter. It still carries no. 22 from the Classic meeting.

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#852 cyrilmac

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 16:39

Thanks Alan .
As in all cases of my identifying cars etc other than my Golf I stand to be corrected and welcome it.
I will post some more tomorrow due to major component failure of the specs a moment ago !!!!!

Edited by cyrilmac, 01 September 2010 - 16:40.


#853 arttidesco

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:33

I'd like to thank Wayne Pearson for making me most welcome up in the Mallory Control tower yesterday morning, had a fab time as Cyrils pics convey.

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I wasn't sure which Matra I snapped yesterday until I got home, was most pleasantly surprised to find it was a 1969 MS 80 does any one know if it's the same one that was at Goodwood FoS last year and who the driver is ?

Two different drivers took the wheel yesterday.

Edited by arttidesco, 02 September 2010 - 11:33.


#854 Phil Rainford

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:05

I'd like to thank Wayne Pearson for making me most welcome up in the Mallory Control tower yesterday morning, had a fab time as Cyrils pics convey.


Hope Wayne opened up the TNF Hospitality Suite for you? :)

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#855 cyrilmac

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:27

A few more bits from yesterday .
Re Matra drivers - the driver in artidesco's and this shot is the cars owner the other driver was Mike Wrigley enjoying a couple of laps.

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This Lotus looked simply stunning in yellow , unfortunately for me (and you) the colour in imageshag looks horrible so use your imagination please ..

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Thames Ditton Thunder

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More music..
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Breath of fresh air ..

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Nice Escort driven by a Mr Wainright I believe

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Escort engine bay

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Lola

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#856 Gary C

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:15

that Escort looks fab!

#857 Phil Rainford

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:51

Nice Escort driven by a Mr Wainright I believe

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Could that be Wayne Wainright of Escort Mexico fame :confused:

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#858 cyrilmac

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:56

Could that be Wayne Wainright of Escort Mexico fame :confused:

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I don't think so Phil , I could only make out his surname from the script on the helmet - though indeed that was what I was trying to find out !!!
Still, we could always ask Noel ?

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#859 Simon Hadfield

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:59

Could that be Wayne Wainright of Escort Mexico fame :confused:

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Rob Wainwright I think, a Mr and Mrs Gerry Wainwright production....and he's been rather missed in Historic Formula Ford this season.

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#860 cyrilmac

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:02

Final two for the moment.
Both surely two of the best looking cars ever to grace the tracks...

Ian Ashley's Lola...

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Mike Wrigley's Chevron..

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#861 Phil Rainford

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:08

Rob Wainwright I think, a Mr and Mrs Gerry Wainwright production....and he's been rather missed in Historic Formula Ford this season.



Thanks Simon :)

#862 Mallory Dan

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:46

Could that be Wayne Wainright of Escort Mexico fame :confused:

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And a Lola T492 S2000, and B42 Atlantic, Phil. Never seen a pic of the latter, also used by John Stokes in '79. I wonder if there's one in Mrs SA's wardrobe collection?

#863 Alan Cox

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:42

And a Lola T492 S2000, and B42 Atlantic, Phil. Never seen a pic of the latter, also used by John Stokes in '79. I wonder if there's one in Mrs SA's wardrobe collection?

...not forgetting a Suzuki Swift which he raced at Oulton Park when deciding whether to make a comeback to the tracks.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:20

Twas a pretty steady morning all round, nice to meet Arttidesco for a chat. Whizzo was throwing the Zephyr/Zodiac [can never tell the difference, a bit before my era....] around, it was lurching beautifully through Gerards :lol:

Unfortunately i couldn't open the TNF suite as Mr Rainford still has the official sign for the door i believe :)

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:28

That Zephyr seems to run MUCH lower than when it was Tony Dron's car, and on much wider wheels, and certainly not as when chaps like Jeff Uren raced and won in them. Period, I suppose.....or is it just another silhouette hotrod which we pretend is just like it was in its era?
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:50

I'd like to thank Wayne Pearson for making me most welcome up in the Mallory Control tower yesterday morning, had a fab time as Cyrils pics convey.

I wasn't sure which Matra I snapped yesterday until I got home, was most pleasantly surprised to find it was a 1969 MS 80 does any one know if it's the same one that was at Goodwood FoS last year and who the driver is ?

Two different drivers took the wheel yesterday.


Looks rather like Ron Maydon's helmet in the Matra.

#867 arttidesco

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 22:27

Looks rather like Ron Maydon's helmet in the Matra.


Thanks for the info on the Matra Cyril and Peter, I'll post some more pics when I get home from Londidnium on Saturday :-)

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 06:00

I wasn't sure which Matra I snapped yesterday until I got home, was most pleasantly surprised to find it was a 1969 MS 80 does any one know if it's the same one that was at Goodwood FoS last year and who the driver is ?


The car is MS80/3, which was built around a spare tub some years ago. The driver is current owner Ron Maydon.

All three of the two MS80s originally built are featured in our article: Matra MS80 Cosworth

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 11:53

That Zephyr seems to run MUCH lower than when it was Tony Dron's car, and on much wider wheels, and certainly not as when chaps like Jeff Uren raced and won in them. Period, I suppose.....or is it just another silhouette hotrod which we pretend is just like it was in its era?
Roger Lund


It does seem to- although didn't Tony Dron mainly use it as a rally car rather than a racer? It did have quite a few seasons of race mileage under it's belt before TD owned it though. As I remember, it was regularly featured in Classic Cars magazine during the early years of his ownership

http://www.classicdr...00.asp?id=11065

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 12:05

That Zephyr seems to run MUCH lower than when it was Tony Dron's car, and on much wider wheels, and certainly not as when chaps like Jeff Uren raced and won in them. Period, I suppose.....or is it just another silhouette hotrod which we pretend is just like it was in its era?
Roger Lund


Sadly no one seems to care.

I was reading a preview of the Goodwood Revival in one of the monthly glossies and a chap who's entered a Phase 1 Standard Vanguard was boasting how he'd lowered the ride height by a foot!

Isn't that taking the p***?

#871 Giraffe

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 12:31

Sadly no one seems to care.

I was reading a preview of the Goodwood Revival in one of the monthly glossies and a chap who's entered a Phase 1 Standard Vanguard was boasting how he'd lowered the ride height by a foot!

Isn't that taking the p***?


Is that the Standard Vanguard that Brian Redman is down to drive? He might be interested to know that..................

Re. the monthly glossies, I've posted before that I gave up on then when I had a conversation a while back with one of their editors who had no idea who Carlos Pace was....... :well:

Edited by Giraffe, 03 September 2010 - 13:15.


#872 hamsterace

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 14:37

Forgive me for going a bit off thread here, but I remember seeing 4 WPD post-Franchitti Goodwood crash with a set of coil springs clearly fitted to its distinctly non-1964/5 aluminium bodied (and probably double adjustable!) Koni front shock absorbers.

Yep, that's right. Coil springs. On a car with torsion bars at the front....

I rest my case.



#873 Dutchy

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 12:14

Is that the Standard Vanguard that Brian Redman is down to drive? He might be interested to know that..................

Re. the monthly glossies, I've posted before that I gave up on then when I had a conversation a while back with one of their editors who had no idea who Carlos Pace was....... :well:


Giraffe, I'm honestly not sure whether it's that one or not but I have a feeling the car Brian Redman is due to drive is the later type (Phase II?)

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 15:10

hamsterace, did you manage to sort out your query about E type rear wheel arches on a coupe in period? I would be interested to know the outcome.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 17:02

Forgive me for going a bit off thread here, but I remember seeing 4 WPD post-Franchitti Goodwood crash with a set of coil springs clearly fitted to its distinctly non-1964/5 aluminium bodied (and probably double adjustable!) Koni front shock absorbers.

Yep, that's right. Coil springs. On a car with torsion bars at the front....

I rest my case.


Sounds very historic, time for a a series that accommodates racing tool room replica's if you ask me :rolleyes:

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 21:18

Hi,

Anyone know what sort of turn out is expected on Wednesday?

I'm thinking about making my first visit to Mallory to spectate :-)

Bill


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Posted 06 September 2010 - 21:37

Hi,

Anyone know what sort of turn out is expected on Wednesday?

I'm thinking about making my first visit to Mallory to spectate :-)

Bill


Not a clue; rarely have, but that's the beauty of it! Keep an eye on the weather, and it is coming up to Goodwood......... :cat:


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Posted 06 September 2010 - 23:28

Forgive me for going a bit off thread here, but I remember seeing 4 WPD post-Franchitti Goodwood crash with a set of coil springs clearly fitted to its distinctly non-1964/5 aluminium bodied (and probably double adjustable!) Koni front shock absorbers. Yep, that's right. Coil springs. On a car with torsion bars at the front.... I rest my case.


By comparison, I offer a shot of the under-bonnet area of the Newey car on the Saturday evening at last year's Revival
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 23:52

By comparison, I offer a shot of the under-bonnet area of the Newey car on the Saturday evening at last year's Revival
Roger Lund

Yes I can see the aero tweaks I was told about...


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#880 arttidesco

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:54

Hi,

Anyone know what sort of turn out is expected on Wednesday?

I'm thinking about making my first visit to Mallory to spectate :-)

Bill


The beauty of Wednesday mornings at Mallory is you do not know what to expect Bill :-)

Here are some more pics I took last Wednesday.

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One of a pair of 250F's

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First time I have ever seen a Cobra Coupe, and first time I have seen the Mallory hairpin, previous visits to Mallory in the '80's I was too busy being a wrench monkey on an Alfa 33 to get to see anything beyond the pits.

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A Lotus 23 I believe ?

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A Lola Mk 3 that suggested it was driven to victory in the FJ race at Monaco in 1961 ?

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Mini Cooper wondering if the XUF 783 A reg is a give away to an illustrious past ?

Embarrassingly I do not know who any of the drivers are :blush:

Can anyone help me out ?

Thanking you in anticipation.

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#881 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:12

A Lola Mk 3 that suggested it was driven to victory in the FJ race at Monaco in 1961 ?

I don't think so, in fact I know so - 1961 Monaco FJ was won by Peter Arundell in a Lotus 20. Highest-placed Lola Mk 3 was John Hine in sixth.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:57

Thanks Giraffe and Art

I'll make the trip and keep my fingers crossed

btw, my wife wants to know if Mallory Park has a cafe that does a cooked breakfast?
(that's our backup plan .......)

Bill





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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:59

Thanks Giraffe and Art

I'll make the trip and keep my fingers crossed

btw, my wife wants to know if Mallory Park has a cafe that does a cooked breakfast?
(that's our backup plan .......)

Bill


I had a fab BLT when I arrived, at the cafe just outside the gates to the circuit last week Bill :-)

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:03

I don't think so, in fact I know so - 1961 Monaco FJ was won by Peter Arundell in a Lotus 20. Highest-placed Lola Mk 3 was John Hine in sixth.


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I'll bow to your superior knowledge Alan ( edit :blush:) unfortunately I did not get a detail of the sticker above the #54 on the front of the car.

Edited by arttidesco, 07 September 2010 - 09:04.


#885 David McKinney

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:14

But the 1963 Monaco race was won by a Lola (R J D Attwood)

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 10:05

Maybe these will help

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#887 David McKinney

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:34

I should have stopped to think what model we are looking at

John Hine in a Lola Mk3 was indeed sixth in the 1961 Monaco FJ race

Don't suppose you noted the chassis number?

#888 Tim Murray

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:45

According to the Lola Mk 3 page on Gerald Swan's site, the Kevin Musson car is BRJ-35.

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:02

Thanks for the blow up Cyril :up:

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:18

hamsterace, did you manage to sort out your query about E type rear wheel arches on a coupe in period? I would be interested to know the outcome.
Roger Lund



I'm afraid not Roger. Regrettably the F.I.A appear to be acting with their customary speed and decisiveness, and 12 months down the line we are none the wiser....

I will let you know if I learn anything further.



#891 David McKinney

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 13:07

According to the Lola Mk 3 page on Gerald Swan's site, the Kevin Musson car is BRJ-35.

Thanks Tim

Could have looked it up myself, I suppose :well:


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 20:35

30+ cars booked in for tomorrow, forecast is iffy i'm afraid but then again it has been incorrect many times before. :)

A full plate of Full English fare is available, you won't need anything else for the rest of the day.......

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 21:12

30+ cars booked in for tomorrow, forecast is iffy i'm afraid but then again it has been incorrect many times before. :)

A full plate of Full English fare is available, you won't need anything else for the rest of the day.......


And Ice cream available for lunch ... assuming the forecast is wrong :p

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 21:13

A full plate of Full English fare is available, you won't need anything else for the rest of the day.......


Jaguar, Aston Martin, Lotus, Lola you mean, Wayne? :love:

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 21:24

Hi All

Dad and I will be there again with the Chinook, its complete with more fuel system mods to try and beat the gremlins which keep stealing all our fuel pressure !

Cheers
Richard

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 21:35

30+ cars booked in for tomorrow, forecast is iffy i'm afraid but then again it has been incorrect many times before. :)

A full plate of Full English fare is available, you won't need anything else for the rest of the day.......


OK, you have convinced me now, definitely coming up tomorrow :)

Bill

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 15:09

Another morning of Mallory magic..........a taster........

Joaquin Folch's GT40 / #1019

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Lancia-Ferrari from Hall & Hall

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Hodgkiss


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BRM P57 /3 driven today by Bill Wykenam

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Porsche 904/6 of Andrew & Richard Frankel (of Motorsport Magazine) preparing for Spa

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Lovely Brabham BT8 (SC - 05 - 64)
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More later with info :wave:

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 16:15

I seem to remember that the Escuderia Montjuich' s GT40 was red in the 1969 guards trophy at Snetterton, i remember the car as it did nearly the entire 51 laps with a misfire. And yes it should have been a 50 lap race but the chequered was put out a lap late . the result was declared at 50 laps anyway .lol.

I have to say it does look good in that shade of Blue though.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 20:16

The GT40 belongs to Joaquin Folch who was testing it at Mallory this morning, along with his Maserati 250F. It is #1019 and is immaculate to say the least.

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Simon Hadfield told me this car won a 1000km race ( in IIRC Spain) the day Jim Clark died.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 20:52

Simon Hadfield told me this car won a 1000km race ( in IIRC Spain) the day Jim Clark died.

The Barcelona 6 Hours:

http://wsrp.ic.cz/nonchamp1968.html#11