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#1451 Gatmo

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 16:44

Mr Arron is quite correct regarding Zunino's 40.06 time in the Arrows but that time was bettered when the Boss series made a visit in the late 90's/early 2000. Tony Worswick went below the 40s barrier then Ex GM Euroseries runner Johan Rajamaki managed a 37.7 in his Footwork, which is tramping on a bit as they say.

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#1452 RS250

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 16:51

Mr Arron is quite correct regarding Zunino's 40.06 time in the Arrows but that time was bettered when the Boss series made a visit in the late 90's/early 2000. Tony Worswick went below the 40s barrier then Ex GM Euroseries runner Johan Rajamaki managed a 37.7 in his Footwork, which is tramping on a bit as they say.

Didn't Ronnie set a really quick one when testing that Offy engined March (711?) they built for a big money formula libre type event in Bermuda one Christmas in the early 70's? Thinking on didn't Revson win it in an M8f? Or am I really just dreaming?

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 16:55

Didn't Ronnie set a really quick one when testing that Offy engined March (711?) they built for a big money formula libre type event in Bermuda one Christmas in the early 70's? Thinking on didn't Revson win it in an M8f? Or am I really just dreaming?


I think the Bermuda race was an Autosport spoof :rolleyes:

#1454 RS250

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 16:59

I think the Bermuda race was an Autosport spoof :rolleyes:

Having just done a quick Google..."I'll get me coat"

#1455 Bloggsworth

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 17:01

Having just done a quick Google..."I'll get me coat"


And, presumably, your Bermuda shorts...

#1456 Giraffe

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 17:06

And, presumably, your Bermuda shorts...


I actually went out for the race (my sister was living there) & was sat on Front St. all on my Jack Jones. :blush: Still. the golf's great, & Jim Clark was a resident of the island.


#1457 alansart

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 17:21

I actually went out for the race (my sister was living there) & was sat on Front St. all on my Jack Jones. :blush: Still. the golf's great, & Jim Clark was a resident of the island.


Wasn't there supposed to be a wooden bridge the cars had to cross :)


Back to Mallory Park. My own personal best (that I can find) in the PRS was on a hot day in 1986.

50.5 in the Star of Mallory FF1600 race. We then slapped the slicks on for the Monopostos and I managed a 49.4. The only day I managed to get slicks to work on FF1600 settings and also the only time I managed to take Gerrards flat. That scared me enough, so how they can go round in under 40's is astounding!

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 17:32

Wasn't there supposed to be a wooden bridge the cars had to cross :)


Yes - Not sure if anybody retired with splinters in their tyres...

#1459 Gatmo

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 18:43

The average speed for the Zunino 40.06 lap was 120mph. An average speed for a lap that includes a 30mph Hairpin.

As David Coleman used to say, "Quite Remarkable"

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 18:54

I think the Bermuda race was an Autosport spoof :rolleyes:


But real enough to take in one well known author IIRC.......
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#1461 Giraffe

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 18:55

I'd love to see a current F1 car negotiate Shaws (I presume if they can handle Monaco, they'd get round it without the handbrake). The de-acceleration would be quite unbelievable to witness...... :cat:

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 19:38

I'd love to see a current F1 car negotiate Shaws (I presume if they can handle Monaco, they'd get round it without the handbrake). The de-acceleration would be quite unbelievable to witness...... :cat:


There was some Italian chap in Aurora who I saw one day testing at Mallory and he simply went into neutral on the entry with his Surtees (very dark blue) and then chose a gear once he'd free wheeled round and accelerated away. Don't know who he was but he looked frightened to death. Did he actually "race" ?


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Posted 30 March 2011 - 19:47

I'd love to see a current F1 car negotiate Shaws (I presume if they can handle Monaco, they'd get round it without the handbrake). The de-acceleration would be quite unbelievable to witness...... :cat:

Iz dat de acceleration :lol: or deceleration ? :wave:

#1464 Pink Snail

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 19:57

The talk of the Bermuda Race has reminded me of the Autosport April 1st spoofs over the years. Remember reading with real enthusiasm of the BTCC race at Heathrow Airport :eek: :eek: using the runways between landing and taking off planes :lol: and in recent times the 3 seater Ferrari :rolleyes: ..Back on thread, how was Mallory today and are there any pictures?...need my weekly fix :love: !!!

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 20:08

:wave: A little teaser! loving the comp of this one...

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#1466 millau

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 22:33

Having just done a quick Google..."I'll get me coat"




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#1467 Thundersport

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 23:02

Boss at Mallory was 1997 and Rajamaki who was not just a former GM Euroseries runner but also drove in British F3000 very competently on a shoe string budget. Rajamaki reckoned he was hitting the 180mph mark on the back straight which must have been a tad brain focusing!

On a different note I always remember Edwina really wanted a round of the British F3000 championship there in the early 90s; now that would have been something with the talents of Warwick, Dean, Coyne etc in F3000 cars round there! Sadly it never happend due to safety concerns which I have to say at the time and on reflection was the correct decision.

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#1468 Giraffe

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 05:34

Iz dat de acceleration :lol: or deceleration ? :wave:


Das iz taking ze pizz Mike....... ;)


#1469 Giraffe

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 05:37

:wave: A little teaser! loving the comp of this one...

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Matthew


Nice pic but looks like it wasn't the busiest of Wednesday mornings: did it rain Matthew? :well: Off to Silverstone today testing with a bloke who once led the Monaco GP (& fell off!) & his lad..............

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#1470 Phil Rainford

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:13

Nice pic but looks like it wasn't the busiest of Wednesday mornings: did it rain Matthew? :well: Off to Silverstone today testing with a bloke who once led the Monaco GP (& fell off!) & his lad..............


He wasn't the only one to do that during that race if I recall :)

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:35

Off to Silverstone today testing with a bloke who once led the Monaco GP (& fell off!) & his lad..............


...and once took at least 3 or 4 cars at the first corner by going over the top of them!


#1472 EDWARD FITZGERALD

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:02

...and once took at least 3 or 4 cars at the first corner by going over the top of them! DEREK DALY ?



#1473 Phil Rainford

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:03

...and once took at least 3 or 4 cars at the first corner by going over the top of them!


And was once woken up in the Oulton Park paddock by Mr Arron and I power sliding our pedal bikes outside his tent :)


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#1474 Tim Murray

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:15

Are we talking Monaco 1982 and DD? If so, it would be more correct to say that he went off before he led the race. But did he actually make it into the lead before his battered car expired? The report in MN reckons he could have finished second if he'd kept going - but he didn't. Perhaps Tony can give us some more info 'from the horse's mouth'. :wave:

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:24

I asked Derek 3 years ago (go to the end of the page) :

http://www.gurneyfla...fw08photos.html



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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:47

Nice pic but looks like it wasn't the busiest of Wednesday mornings: did it rain Matthew? :well: Off to Silverstone today testing with a bloke who once led the Monaco GP (& fell off!) & his lad..............


Thanks :) just sorting the rest out, only a few nice old cars, I think the Lola was the highlight. It only started to rain half way through the last single seater session. Then a fair bit over dinner and then seemed to stop when the bikes came out leaving a wet track, then the drizzle came down and I was off home!

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Not sure what that is? took a picture with my phone after just speaking to Simon before he went out in it and videoed it in HD going down stebbe straight, sounded fantastic!

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#1477 Tim Murray

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:15

I asked Derek 3 years ago (go to the end of the page) :

http://www.gurneyfla...fw08photos.html

Thanks for that, Remi. Derek may believe that he was leading the race, but I've now carefully read the race reports in both Autosport and Motoring News, and if they are correct it's not possible that he could have ever led the race.

Prost had just lapped Daly on lap 73 when Daly had his accident at Tabac. Derek got going again, but with a badly damaged car, limping round for another two and a bit laps before expiring at Rascasse just before completing his 75th lap. After Prost's crash and Patrese's spin, Pironi led at the end of lap 75 and started out on the last lap, but ran out of fuel in the tunnel and never completed it. So Daly was never ahead of Pironi in the race, and I doubt he was ever ahead of Patrese, either.

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#1478 thebullet

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:36

Also, any of you on facebook can keep an eye on my photos here :)

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Matth...154016041306915

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 13:28

There was some Italian chap in Aurora who I saw one day testing at Mallory and he simply went into neutral on the entry with his Surtees (very dark blue) and then chose a gear once he'd free wheeled round and accelerated away. Don't know who he was but he looked frightened to death. Did he actually "race" ?


Mark, I think this may be the legendary 'Saeed Ali Hodzic' who Mike Earle was due to run in Aurora mid-79. OTOH he'd done a little F3 here the year before (Kennedy March 773??), and bought or hired an ex-works Surtees. A/Sport reported he looked a little out of his depth, and. no he didn't race it!

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 13:38

Not sure what that is? took a picture with my phone after just speaking to Simon before he went out in it and videoed it in HD going down stebbe straight, sounded fantastic!

Looks like Leo Voyazides' Lola T280-DFV to me

#1481 MCS

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 13:39

Mark, I think this may be the legendary 'Saeed Ali Hodzic' who Mike Earle was due to run in Aurora mid-79. OTOH he'd done a little F3 here the year before (Kennedy March 773??), and bought or hired an ex-works Surtees. A/Sport reported he looked a little out of his depth, and. no he didn't race it!


Ah, right. Yes, it was a Mike Earle car. Mystery solved - thanks Dan!


#1482 thebullet

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 14:16

Here we go then... a few from yesterday!

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More of the modern stuff can be seen here...

http://www.flickr.co...thewbarrington/

Thanks guys.

:wave:

#1483 Phil Rainford

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 14:19

Well worth the wait :up: :up:


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#1484 thebullet

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 14:33

Well worth the wait :up: :up:


PAR


Shame there isn't much variety in shots.

Thanks, much appreciated :)

Matthew

Edited by thebullet, 31 March 2011 - 14:35.


#1485 Gatmo

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 20:45

Another interesting comparison regarding lap times is the 42.5 managed by Quique Mansilla in qualifying for a round of the 1982 British F3 series which made it's final visit to Mallory that year.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 21:48

Off to Silverstone today testing with a bloke who once led the Monaco GP (& fell off!) & his lad..............


No, it's not Foggy, Compo & Clegg............

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#1487 millau

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 22:10

Here we go then... a few from yesterday!

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More of the modern stuff can be seen here...

http://www.flickr.co...thewbarrington/

Thanks guys.

:wave:

:up: :up:



#1488 Giraffe

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 19:00

In The stunning and very original ex- Richard Shardlow / Jörg Zaborowski Chevron B19

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We will see this car out in the Martini Trophy for 2 litre sportscars launched this season by the HSCC


Jorg has e-mailed me pics of the Chevron from 1972. The following year he had a huge accident in the car whilst hillclimbing it in Germany & after he got out of hospital he took it back to Chorley Old Road for a rebuild to B19/21 spec which he helped with. Jorg lives in Palm Springs these days, but came to the UK last year for the funeral of his close friend and racing partner, Trevor Twaites.

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#1489 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 17:00

Don't think the lap record was under threat yesterday .......... but there was plenty of fun and games at the 750MC Meeting

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How to go motor racing and keep in your Mum's good books :)


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Posted 04 April 2011 - 17:32

Very nice photos! about to sort mine, I think I was stood with you a couple of times down on the inside of the esses! I was with my dad with his camera.

Just a few from me...

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 17:43

Matthew, that 2nd shot is just magnificent. They're all good, but that one is a standout!

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 17:47

Matthew, that 2nd shot is just magnificent. They're all good, but that one is a standout!

Neil


Thank you for your comment! it is much appreciated.

I was really pleased with it. I think it shows the mood well with the rain :)

Ive linked it from facebook and it dosen't show very well.. so here is flickr's version :)

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#1493 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 17:54

Very nice photos! about to sort mine, I think I was stood with you a couple of times down on the inside of the esses! I was with my dad with his camera.

Matthew :wave:


Yep that was me I was " Billy No Mates" for the day; we need to speak next time Matthew

Don't worry I don't bite........unless there is a full moon :rotfl:

See you next time

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#1494 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 17:58

Don't want to panic anyone but.............

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....exactly how big are the moles in Leicestershire :eek:


PAR

Edited by Phil Rainford, 05 April 2011 - 18:27.


#1495 thebullet

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 18:03

Yep that was me I was " Billy No Mates" for the day; we need to speak next time Matthew

Don't worry I don't bite........unless there is a full moon :rotfl:

See you next time

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haha! in all honesty I only just realised it was you!

Speak soon,

Matthew

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 18:08

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VW Specialists............. Vehicle Wrecking specialist. :well:


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Posted 04 April 2011 - 19:31

I was really pleased with it. I think it shows the mood well with the rain :)

Yep, that's what makes it such a great image - the dejected, forlorn driver standing in the gloomy rain. Love images that tell a story, and that one most certainly does.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 19:49

It's the composition, the way you have used the rail to heighten the drivers plight and the meloncholy of the scene, and the depth of field which is just right. Photo competition material Matthew. :up:

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 19:56

VW Specialists............. Vehicle Wrecking specialist. :well:


Just checked the programme Tony and the driver is Ben Miloudi and he resides in.................Birmingham

Explains everything does it not? :rotfl: :rotfl:


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#1500 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 20:08

Long time lurker of this thread, so glad to be able to finally offer something to contribute... Must get myself down there one Wednesday when work allows....

Looks like the latest Knightsport Stratos replica. I remember from my childhood one of their earlier attempts being featured in CCC, bike engined, large reliance on ground effect aerodynamics and a bit of a "giant killer" against the Cx based Skoda contingent at the time. Home built composite chassis too, very very neat as a I remember.


Stu


The Stratos was out at Mallory on Sunday

Although it was left on the grid as the quicker cars got away.....

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.....it fought its way to the front by the flag ( Sorry as it was a late entry I do not have the driver's name )


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The JKS SRC 10 of Steve Cave was not far behind ......

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