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#1801 RS250

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 19:11

Which one?

•Protheroe's original CUT7 (later 636CJU) was raced in the earlier 2000s by Nick Whale and Ian Guest and was auctioned by H&H in 2005
•The second CUT7 was later raced by Roger Mac (256CJU) and later still John Lewis (256DJU)
•The third was the low-drag coupé later 738EUT for some years the property of Viscount Cowdray (as CUT 7 again)
•CUT7 was also on a low-drag replica that became the Lynx-built Linder/Nocker replica 5916WK

Protheroe also raced E-types CUT6 and CT8

(Sits back and waits for the flak)

David, In an earlier post The Bullett shows a pic of an E type Coupe being driven 'Sideways through the esses' by Martin Stretton. This car had the reg. 'CUT7'.
My question was, specifically, is this the car now owned by Lord Drayson? And is it also the car sold at the Stoneleigh auction in 2005?
Good luck with the flack...

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#1802 David Birchall

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 19:55

And which Cut7 is this?:


#1803 Giraffe

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 14:42

Which one?

•Protheroe's original CUT7 (later 636CJU) was raced in the earlier 2000s by Nick Whale and Ian Guest and was auctioned by H&H in 2005
•The second CUT7 was later raced by Roger Mac (256CJU) and later still John Lewis (256DJU)
•The third was the low-drag coupé later 738EUT for some years the property of Viscount Cowdray (as CUT 7 again)
•CUT7 was also on a low-drag replica that became the Lynx-built Linder/Nocker replica 5916WK

Protheroe also raced E-types CUT6 and CT8

(Sits back and waits for the flak)


Some interesting stuff on this site put together by Dick's son:


http://www.myitshere...cut7/ec1001.htm

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#1804 Ted Walker

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 06:20

I would doubt that CUT7 appeared on a Low Drag Coupe replica.

#1805 thebullet

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 11:03

Count me in again tomorrow, I have been there so many times lately. I was only there yesterday!

Anyone else going? any meetings on to bring in a good set of cars?

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 11:33

Count me in again tomorrow, I have been there so many times lately. I was only there yesterday!

Anyone else going? any meetings on to bring in a good set of cars?


Can't do tomorrow but expect to be down sometime in the next few weeks :)


#1807 thebullet

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 12:27

Can't do tomorrow but expect to be down sometime in the next few weeks :)


Ah that's a shame, I think after this I will have a break for a few weeks. :)

#1808 alansart

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 12:32

Ah that's a shame..


I know, but I've got to earn some pennies :)


#1809 Nordic

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 07:05

But its the last Wednesday before the Le Mans Legends?

Looking forward to seeing more photos

#1810 Giraffe

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 17:39

I thought I was going quackers at Mallory this morning

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....they even brought the red flags out.....

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....but your first swimming lesson is an important event.....

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....Back to business on the track....

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A bit of a hybrid here, the ex-Warwick Toleman T280-2 with Lola sidepods and a Rover V8

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The ex-Michael Korten March 793 recently restored for Frank Sytner by Simon Hadfield

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Kevin Kivlochan's Cobra & his autograph collection

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#1811 Giraffe

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 20:15

More from this morning.....

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Not sure what this is but in was MG powered

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Martin Melling's Aston with Rob Hall driving

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The bullet takes aim.... Matthew sizes up a photo opportunity

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#1812 thebullet

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 21:40

More from this morning.....

The bullet takes aim.... Matthew sizes up a photo opportunity

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:D

Thanks Tony, a nice day with you too!

#1813 Pullman99

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 06:43

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Looks like it turned out nice again...and that things went swimmingly for the ducks! Sorry that I couldn't get there but is that Abba Kogan's Matra MS 120 D in action yesterday? The Toleman TG280 looks interesting. Is its chassis number known?

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#1814 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 06:58

is that Abba Kogan's Matra MS 120 D in action yesterday?


Indeed it was, albeit early & briefly. Hopefully it will be joined by his similarily powered Ligier in the near future.


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#1815 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 07:07

The Toleman TG280 looks interesting. Is its chassis number known?


As previously advised (pay attention in class please Ian!), it's chassis TG280 - 2, ex-Warwick with Lola (the owner thinks) sidepods and a Rover V8 installed. It is used for sprints & hillclimbs.

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Two E-Types made fleeting appearances yesterday morning

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Rob Wainwright was flying in this Elden

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... and Mrs.H. has suddenly found some speed and poise too...

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#1816 Pullman99

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 07:22

As previously advised (pay attention in class please Ian!), it's chassis TG280 - 2, ex-Warwick with Lola (the owner thinks) sidepods and a Rover V8 installed. It is used for sprints & hillclimbs.


Oh...yes. Sorry. Chassis numbers, eh...who needs 'em?

Actually, the other place (with a number between 9 and 11) has TG280-02 as an ex-Henton car but presumably both Warwick and Henton drove all the cars at various times. Always liked that car and the team (despite later contrroversies).

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#1817 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 07:32

Oh...yes. Sorry. Chassis numbers, eh...who needs 'em?

Actually, the other place (with a number between 9 and 11) has TG280-02 as an ex-Henton car but presumably both Warwick and Henton drove all the cars at various times. Alwasy liked that car and the team (despite later contrroversies).


Well the bloke in the old overalls and 20 year old motorcycle helmet told me it was "ex-Brundle" initially until RS250 said "don't you mean Warwick?" "That's the fella!" was the response. :blush:

Kevin Kivlochan hustles the Cobra through the Esses

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A suspected broken rocker curtailed activities with the Trojan

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The crew attend to the little MG powered car

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Alexis sails..... (sorry Simon :blush: )

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....and we had an imposter in our midst......

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From a distance, he had thebullet & myself initially fooled, but they must have been busy at Pirelli yesterday.......

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#1818 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 09:21

No doubt the opportunities for incessant self-promotion, name-dropping and "card-dumping" are greater at Mallory on Wednesdays than at the Cholmondeley PoP.
Chacun à son goût.


I'm hopeful that this grumpy old (since ejected) TNFer doesn't have too much support.....? :(

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#1819 Davidson10

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 09:58

I'm hopeful that this grumpy old (since ejected) TNFer doesn't have too much support.....? :(

As a relative newcomer, all this is lost on me. Did Shangry-La drive a Lotus Cortina? I recall him racing Alfas for Autodelta in the 1960s.

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#1820 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:09

As a relative newcomer, all this is lost on me. Did Shangry-La drive a Lotus Cortina? I recall him racing Alfas for Autodelta in the 1960s.


I don't know who was driving the Lotus Cortina, Davidson10, but it was not the chap you were thinking of. I just know I drive him mad! :lol:

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:09

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I didn't know Matra made chassis plate in french but with a word in english :smoking:





#1822 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:20

I didn't know Matra made chassis plate in french but with a word in english :smoking:


I commented to Matthew / thebullet pictured here admiring the Matra that it appeared to have a 'new' V12 installed. It could possibly be one of the batch currently being manufactured in the UK for it's owner.

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#1823 MODE

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:58

yep, it was even too "new" at Monaco 2008 GP if I remember well. Can't wait to see this Ligier, hope you will tell us when/where it's racing as you know the guys :cool:



#1824 Giraffe

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:06

yep, it was even too "new" at Monaco 2008 GP if I remember well. Can't wait to see this Ligier, hope you will tell us when/where it's racing as you know the guys :cool:


They told me the Silverstone Classic was the target date for it's completion. :love:

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#1825 Roger Clark

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:19

Indeed it was, albeit early & briefly. Hopefully it will be joined by his similarily powered Ligier in the near future.


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So not the 120D?

#1826 barrykm

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:28

I commented to Matthew / thebullet pictured here admiring the Matra that it appeared to have a 'new' V12 installed. It could possibly be one of the batch currently being manufactured in the UK for it's owner.

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I hope the 'new' units sound as gorgeous as the original ones...?


#1827 thebullet

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:32

I hope the 'new' units sound as gorgeous as the original ones...?


Stunning! it really did sound amazing screaming down the back straight.

#1828 Dutchy

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 12:03

The black MG powered single seater is the LA (Longbridge/Abingdon) Special built by Tony Noble a few years ago. It was more recently owned by my good friend Terry Rowing and as the name suggests it has an Austin 7 chassis with a blown P Type MG engine. Nice to see it on proper tall wheels.

#1829 thebullet

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 12:16

Simon leaves the paddock...

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And a lovely Lotus Cortina..

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#1830 barrykm

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 13:00

Stunning! it really did sound amazing screaming down the back straight.


Great :clap:


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Posted 02 June 2011 - 13:12

Stunning! it really did sound amazing screaming down the back straight.


How about a video clip....someone...please...

#1832 thebullet

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 13:18

Tony takes aim at the Toleman.
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A fantastic capri!
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Simon's superb Trojan in the early morning sun.
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And finally a wave :)

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 13:33

To describe the Tolman's rear suspension as inelegant is to do a disservice to inelegance...

Is it syncronicity that just started a Bob Evans thread on TNF?

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 14:10

To describe the Tolman's rear suspension as inelegant is to do a disservice to inelegance...


That's not the original layout is it. Has it been modified for the hills?


#1835 thebullet

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 14:22

That's not the original layout is it. Has it been modified for the hills?


He said he hillclimbed it I think. Giraffe?

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 15:29

He said he hillclimbed it I think. Giraffe?


Several have appeared on the hills (& at sprint venues) since the then-reigning champion Chris Cramer ran one in 1981.
Ray Rowen ran another a few season later and won the title in what was by then a heavily modified version known as the "Roman" .
That car was shared by Rob Turnbull (below) and went on to be used with a Judd V8 by the late Mark Colton.

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The great Tony Marsh, 6 times hillclimb champion, ex BRM F1 pilot and Le Mans class winner had a black one with a 4 litre DFL in the back early 90s.

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#1837 alansart

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 15:42

That's not the original layout is it. Has it been modified for the hills?


The reason I asked is that I've seen a couple of cars used for hillclimbs that have raised pick up points for the shock absorber/springs and I don't know why.



#1838 thebullet

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 18:38

Going off topic slightly,

You may all know about the special saloon revival event going on at Mallory in August on the Bank Holiday weekend.

There is a dedicated test session on a wednesday for these cars, all people who are racing will have an invite to the test session.

As of today 29 cars have been confirmed for the Wednesday test session which will take place on 29th June. Passenger rides will take place I do believe (Not entirely sure who for) Press will be involved on the day.

Just a heads up to get down there :cat:

Matthew

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 20:53

So not the 120D?


Well, it doesn't look like it and, in any case, weren't we here a year ago: "Date of Fabrication" ? Remember ?

Anyway, I like the F5000 Trojan T101 - but is it the ex-Evans car? According to ORC it isn't, but doesn't it look terrific? - even though the red looks lighter and brighter than I remember.

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#1840 Roger Clark

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 21:00

Well, it doesn't look like it and, in any case, weren't we here a year ago: "Date of Fabrication" ? Remember ?

I do.

#1841 Giraffe

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 05:42

Well, it doesn't look like it and, in any case, weren't we here a year ago: "Date of Fabrication" ? Remember ?

Anyway, I like the F5000 Trojan T101 - but is it the ex-Evans car? According to ORC it isn't, but doesn't it look terrific? - even though the red looks lighter and brighter than I remember.


No, it's the Brett Lunger car in Evans livery.


I do.


Well if you do Roger, why are you asking? Your post made me search back up the thread only to discover that you had answered your own question. :confused:

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#1842 Roger Clark

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:12

Well if you do Roger, why are you asking? Your post made me search back up the thread only to discover that you had answered your own question. :confused:

It was a rhetorical question and my dinosaur-like view that accuracy matters on TNF.

#1843 Giraffe

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:16

It was a rhetorical question and my dinosaur-like view that accuracy matters on TNF.


I am in agreement with you on both counts Roger. :up:

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:39

As of today 29 cars have been confirmed for the Wednesday test session which will take place on 29th June. Passenger rides will take place I do believe (Not entirely sure who for) Press will be involved on the day.


Well if accuracy maters on TNF it should have been "...for whom".

#1845 Giraffe

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:46

Well if accuracy maters on TNF it should have been "...for whom".


Accuracy maters! :up:


#1846 Giraffe

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:44

I found myself sitting on a bench at Shaws Hairpin on Wednesday morning that bore this plaque

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I knew Tony Dean from my days in West Yorkshire. Just up the road from me in Batley was Jim Lee's outfit, Team JLR which was managed at the time by Tony's son, Richard. I would often pass by to see how they were doing as they were running a young guy in Formula Ford in the major championships.
That young guy won the Indy 500 last weekend, Dan Wheldon. :up:

#1847 alansart

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:50

Just up the road from me in Batley was Jim Lee's outfit, Team JLR which was managed at the time by Tony's son, Richard.


Richard Dean. Mallory Park 1984.
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Tony Dean's ex mechanic posts on TNF but I can't remember his name :blush:
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#1848 Tim Murray

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 09:19

Tony Dean's ex mechanic posts on TNF but I can't remember his name :blush:

Could it be Brian Stewart, who posts here as 'eurocardoc'?

Hello all,

30 year veteran of motor sports all over the world,
privileged to have known many greats especially those of early 70s in FF F3 and F2. Worked F1 and Indy ending up in Indy running my business repairing Euro exotics. A little vintage racing still, some resto.

Ex mechanic of Tony Brise, Tom Pryce, Tony Dean, Alan Jones, John Watson, Brambilla, Andretti, Salazar and too many more.

Enjoying catching up on news of these and more, sad to read of some passing, but we are all ageing.....

Brian Stewart



#1849 alansart

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 09:41

Could it be Brian Stewart, who posts here as 'eurocardoc'?


Yes it is Tim. Thank you :)


#1850 Bloggsworth

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 18:45

Accuracy maters! :up:


Sausages... Hoist by my own petard.