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#151 Pink Snail

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 20:42

30+ cars booked in tomorrow which means it will be nearer 40. I've no idea what or whom will grace us with their presence.......

Can`t wait for the pictures - this is becoming the highlight of my week!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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#152 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:59

With a degree of trepidation and my ability to do so due to a late change of schedule, I'm about to leave for Mallory...... :cat:

#153 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 14:12

I arrived at Mallory this morning to find that Phil Rainford had beaten me to it, and was already snapping away so expect some proper photos on this thread later rather than my old rubbish...... Just to rub salt into the wound, rumour has it that the big guns are being drafted in next week as non other than ace photographer, reporter, interviewer, caption writer, globetrotter, TNFer and all round bon oeuf Simon Arron is expected to be at Mallory while I'm absent in London. I'll get on with it then.....

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Simon Hadfield was there to shake down Frank Sytner's Lotus 24 before Monaco this weekend. The Coventry Climax V8 newly fitted to the car developed an annoying petrol/water leak which will need fixing before it races. IIRC this is the car 'restored' by Cedric Seltzer

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Simon also took time out to shake down Mark Pangborn's lovely little Lotus 23

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& also an E-Type in which he ran a 53.3 second lap of the circuit

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Ian Ashley was there too testing an Elva Formula Junior

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I just love this wooden Marcos!

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Beautifully re-built March 73B-09 driven by Greg Caton. This 1600 BDA powered car was imported from the US as a box of bits and has been painstakingly rebuilt over the last 15 months.

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#154 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 18:30

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The lovely Lister of Stephen Bond

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DB4GT

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Austin Healey 100 series

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Another Austin Healey

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More wood from Marcos

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Many of the sports cars today from this fine house

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Lotus were well represented today

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The Ian Ashley Elva

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The boss in the office

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From the sublime....

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To the ridiculous..... This turbocharged Roller is there for a Custom Car meet at the weekend when it will be chopped and lowered...different strokes chaps..... :stoned:

#155 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 21:22

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Trusty MGB.....

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Lotus 23 once more.....

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March with a young Ginetta racer aboard.....

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Short outing......He'd forgotten to dip the Marcos's fuel tank......

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Ian Ashley goes out......

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Lotus 24 montage..... Minutes later it departed on the road to Monaco.

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If 'A1' is the ultimate plate, does this come a close second???

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#156 David McKinney

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 21:39

So what was Alex Yoong driving?

#157 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 21:54

Did it run okay today then?


With the assembled motoring press in attendance and the owners having flown in last Thursday for the occasion, Simon Hadfield climbed aboard the Huron-Daf, fired it up, slipped the cluth and..................................a driveshaft broke! :blush: (Hang on, surely there isn't a clutch as it's a Variomatic?!?!)

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#158 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 21:58

So what was Alex Yoong driving?


A March, and thanks for the driver identification David, (though he doesn't look all that Asian to me).;) (Oh, and he arrived in a Land Rover Discovery).

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#159 Phil Rainford

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 22:08

I had been away since 1987......... today was like being reacquainted with an old friend :) :)

Few images from the morning

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For full set of pictures clink on link ( Warning some modern cars are present !!)

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#160 alansart

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 22:10

I arrived at Mallory this morning to find that Phil Rainford had beaten me to it, and was already snapping away so expect some proper photos on this thread later rather than my old rubbish..


They are certainly not rubbish Tony.

C'mon Phil post the picture of the grumpy Giraffe :)


#161 Phil Rainford

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 22:16

They are certainly not rubbish Tony.

C'mon Phil post the picture of the grumpy Giraffe :)


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Not grumpy..... just a man with cars and people to see if you ask me :)

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#162 Roger Clark

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 22:51

Interesting to see a Team Lotus 24 with a fuel injected engine.

#163 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 22:51

Point of interest, Gatmo/Wayne (Wayne tells me 'Gatmo' was a supplier of bent Formula Ford engines!) says that Simon Hadfield can get around Mallory in about 45 secs in a F5000! He also told me that Piquet & Rosberg ran 35s in testing during the turbo era! :eek: Can't wait to see the HSCC Derek Bell series cars run in June!

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#164 Giraffe

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 22:56

Interesting to see a Team Lotus 24 with a fuel injected engine.


It's a Tony Mantle / Climax Engine Services rebuild that is returned to you in 'kit-form', Simon told me. However he said it is an original V8 from the Team Lotus pool. The 24 being a Cedric Seltzer rebuild is a little less specific..............

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#165 Giraffe

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:02

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That's Practical Performance Car Magazine http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/ who are kindly polling their readers re. the Roller for this weekend's event.


Also if you look under 'PPC Cars', you will find a car Gatmo told me about, a Rover SD1 in which the mag fitted a 27-litre V12 tank engine...... :eek:

Also, if you look under 'In The Park', you will find 'Ye Olde Drift Team' ...... It implies that the VSCC are putting on a drifting display there this weekend.......

To quote David McKinney.....'Where will it all end?' For once I am with you David; Right here, I sincerely hope! :rolleyes:

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#166 Simon Arron

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 07:56

For a full set of pictures clink on the link (warning, some modern cars are present!)

I suspect Lord McKinney of Teretonga considers the March 732 to be somewhat modern...

#167 David McKinney

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:30

True, though I have driven even newer cars - Ralt RT1s and RT4s, and sundry FF1600 items

#168 Roger Clark

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:42

It's a Tony Mantle / Climax Engine Services rebuild that is returned to you in 'kit-form', Simon told me. However he said it is an original V8 from the Team Lotus pool. The 24 being a Cedric Seltzer rebuild is a little less specific..............

Thank you, but not really relevant to the point I was trying to make.

#169 Phil Rainford

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 11:24

I suspect Lord McKinney of Teretonga considers the March 732 to be somewhat modern...


A trio of relatively old or new cars depending on each individual's viewpoint :)

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#170 Giraffe

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 12:41

Thank you, but not really relevant to the point I was trying to make.


Oh yes it was Roger. Tony is the preferred rebuilder of Coventry Climax units in the UK, (& some would argue further afield). Now if he's prepared to rebuild the Team Lotus V8 with fuel injection, then both he would appear to be content with doing so, and the rules must allow it. Is that any nearer the point you were trying to make, Roger?
What part of interesting interested you? My response was as non-specific as your post! :D

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#171 Giraffe

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 12:55

The plan is to shake down Frank's 24 and for the boys to leave for Monaco straight from the circuit. The Trojan should get it's next airing at the Silverstone test next Wednesday and then a race at the HSCC GP Silverstone round.


The Trojan can't run at the Classic media / test day next Wednesday as F5000's are not on the programme for the Classic. (Source, yer man Hadfield). :well:


#172 Giraffe

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 15:25

I suspect Lord McKinney of Teretonga considers the March 732 to be somewhat modern...


In the pedantic tradition of TNF, it's actually a 73B (chassis -09) pictured, imported from the States. It was never a Team Beta car, but it arrived in that colour and the Catons thought it would look good finished as such. (They also run the Ragno Arrows, so they've plenty of paint that colour!)


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Posted 29 April 2010 - 15:37

Fantastic thread, thanks to all. :up: :up:

Boy, are you lucky, I would sacrifice various parts of my body to be able to see this assortment on a regular basis! Especially the Matra MS120 :love:

#174 Phil Rainford

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 15:44

In the pedantic tradition of TNF, it's actually a 73B (chassis -09) pictured, imported from the States. It was never a Team Beta car, but it arrived in that colour and the Catons thought it would look good finished as such. (They also run the Ragno Arrows, so they've plenty of paint that colour!)


And it is immaculate :)

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#175 Roger Clark

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 16:45

Oh yes it was Roger. Tony is the preferred rebuilder of Coventry Climax units in the UK, (& some would argue further afield). Now if he's prepared to rebuild the Team Lotus V8 with fuel injection, then both he would appear to be content with doing so, and the rules must allow it. Is that any nearer the point you were trying to make, Roger?
What part of interesting interested you? My response was as non-specific as your post! :D

When did Team Lotus race a 24 with fuel injection?

#176 Giraffe

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 21:47

When did Team Lotus race a 24 with fuel injection?


I presume that's rhetorical?


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Posted 30 April 2010 - 15:06

A trio of relatively old or new cars depending on each individual's viewpoint :)



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Pardon me for being an ignorant person from the continent. What type of car is this?

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 15:10

It looks like a Triumph Dolomite Sprint. Is it true that the engine from this forms the basis of the modern SAAB engines??

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 15:38

It looks like a Triumph Dolomite Sprint. Is it true that the engine from this forms the basis of the modern SAAB engines??


Well kind of. According to wikipedia did they use a 'triumph engine' in the seventies. Hier ist der Link!
Today Saab uses Opel engines. The straight four is the basically Opel L-850 full aluminium engine. Todays Saab are also mainly based on the Opel Vectra/Insignia platform as well.

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#180 Giraffe

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 15:46

It looks like a Triumph Dolomite Sprint.


They were a pretty nifty road car in period with a 0-60 IIRC of about 7.5 secs. Didn't Tony Dron race one? (Cue pic if applicable :cat: ).


#181 Phil Rainford

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 16:14

They were a pretty nifty road car in period with a 0-60 IIRC of about 7.5 secs. Didn't Tony Dron race one? (Cue pic if applicable :cat: ).


Indeed as did Gerry Marshall amongst others..... but the engine was also used by the Unipart March F3 team


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#182 Giraffe

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 16:16

Indeed as did Gerry Marshall amongst others..... but the engine was also used by the Unipart March F3 team


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Where IIRC it didn't cut the mustard quite as cutely. :well:

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 16:53

It looks like a Triumph Dolomite Sprint. Is it true that the engine from this forms the basis of the modern SAAB engines??



Sort of, the early 99's (1750cc & 1809cc IIRC) shared what I think was an AE derived unit, with certain variants of the Dolomite

Saab then developed the 2.0L (B20) used in the 99's and 900's, to be replaced by another 2.0L 8V (B201) around 1981, and later the 2.0L 16V (B202) etc

Apologies for staying off topic, must organise Wednesday off soon and get to Mallory

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#184 Giraffe

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Posted 01 May 2010 - 15:46

They were a pretty nifty road car in period with a 0-60 IIRC of about 7.5 secs. Didn't Tony Dron race one? (Cue pic if applicable :cat: ).


I could hardly believe it when I reached page 122 of the June edition of 'Motor Sport' and there featured in the 'Classic Racing Cars' monthly feature is non other than The Triumph Dolomite Sprint (described on Contents page 8 as 'Racing Marmite!')
In addition, the 'I raced one' sidebar is by Tony Dron................. (I hadn't peeped, honestly! :eek: )

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#185 Gatmo

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 20:08

30-35 cars expected tomorrow, decent weather forecast too. I'm sure there will be some photo's posted showing the action sometime tomorrow evening. :)

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 18:00

Nothing from this morning as yet?!?! Bet we get the pics from Barcelona a darn sight quicker later this week........;)

Edit: Ahhh, just heard Simon stayed on for the bikes. Getting some useful (new) lenstime in before Spain?

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#187 Phil Rainford

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 20:44

A selection from this Wednesday's Mallory attendees......

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Have to say the bikes and especially the sidecars were bonkers :eek: :eek:


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#188 Gatmo

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 21:00

Twas a good morning testing wise, sunny conditions and nothing too much in the way of stoppages.

As a bonus for Mr Rainford, i have arranged a passenger ride for him on a vintage sidecar next week, i'm sure he'll be chomping at the bit.................... :lol:

#189 Phil Rainford

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 21:37

As a bonus for Mr Rainford, i have arranged a passenger ride for him on a vintage sidecar next week, i'm sure he'll be chomping at the bit.................... :lol:


Umm let me see........

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..... I think I would rather....

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.... stand on the Kop at Anfield....

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... with my Manchester United scarf on!!

Got to get to a bike meeting soon :)

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#190 Simon Arron

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 22:36

One or two more of a similar stripe. Don't have any driver IDs, though, apart from the obvious outbreak of Ian Ashley four shots in. Oh, and the A40 could be Rob Nickson, except that the driver arrived on time so it probably isn't...
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I'd also like to confirm that motorcycling is for others to practise...
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#191 Phil Rainford

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 06:21

While Mr Arron is off on easyJet to Spain I will post a few more :)

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Larger selection ( again with warning of newer machinary found here )

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With the bikes here...

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#192 petestenning

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 06:35

Love the looks of the Chevron in chocolate seems a familiar colour scheme, Ian McLaren ? possible was driver in period.

Also the Catnic steel lintels Elden FF1600 Mike Catlow/Danny Sullivan era?

#193 Phil Rainford

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:09

Love the looks of the Chevron in chocolate seems a familiar colour scheme, Ian McLaren ? possible was driver in period.

Also the Catnic steel lintels Elden FF1600 Mike Catlow/Danny Sullivan era?


Andy Kitson has confirmed your thoughts on the the Elden..I am sure Peter Gethin drove the Chevron at some point :confused:


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#194 Paul Hurdsfield

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:19

Brilliant pics Boys :up:

That guy on the sidecar :eek:

#195 Phil Rainford

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:28

Brilliant pics Boys :up:

That guy on the sidecar :eek:


She was a young lady actually Paul :lol:


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#196 mikeC

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:31

Brilliant pics Boys :up:

That guy on the sidecar :eek:

... I think may be a girl :stoned:


#197 Giraffe

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:45

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If this is the famous Chevron B26 Hart aka 'Chocolate Drop", it came 5th overall at the Silverstone Interserie in 1974 in Peter Gethin's hands. It was also raced at the Nurburgring that year by Gethin and John Watson.
I seem to remember it being advertised for sale in the motoring press recently, and also something about it's return to the circuits.


#198 Phil Rainford

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 09:41

If this is the famous Chevron B26 Hart aka 'Chocolate Drop", it came 5th overall at the Silverstone Interserie in 1974 in Peter Gethin's hands. It was also raced at the Nurburgring that year by Gethin and John Watson.
I seem to remember it being advertised for sale in the motoring press recently, and also something about it's return to the circuits.



That is why we need our roving Paddock/Pit Lane reporter ;)


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#199 Giraffe

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 10:38

It looks like 'Chocolate Drop' to me.....

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#200 Giraffe

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:59

That is why we need our roving Paddock/Pit Lane reporter ;)


And talking of Chevrons, it's going to be a GR8 weekend for me at Silverstone. I think TNFer Derek Lawson is Clerk of the Course. :wave: