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#2051 elansprint72

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 23:02

I have asked about the Allard amongst acquaintances 'who know' awaiting responses Pete.

The story is the Cognac was purchased at the weekend, I am afraid I did not write down the drivers name but Tim Murray might have a better memory than me. I have do not recall seeing any period pics of the car so I can't comment on any differences.


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Look forward to hearing about the "Allard" and the Cognac- from whence does it gulp its air these days? :rolleyes:



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#2052 Tim Murray

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 23:14

I am afraid I did not write down the drivers name but Tim Murray might have a better memory than me.

Sorry - never caught his name. At the time we were talking to him he was very concerned that his new toy had started leaking oil, so it didn't seem a good idea to take up too much of his time.

#2053 arttidesco

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:33

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Look forward to hearing about the "Allard" and the Cognac- from whence does it gulp its air these days? :rolleyes:


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Thanks for the pic Pete, when Tim told me the Cognac dated back to 1925 I remember thinking the 'air box' must have been a very example :rolleyes:

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No joy with Colin Warnes of the Allard Register about the J2 I will ask friends involved with the VSSCA scene around Pocono to see if the car is familiar over there.




#2054 Dutchy

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 12:28

I have asked about the Allard amongst acquaintances 'who know' awaiting responses Pete.

The story is the Cognac was purchased at the weekend, I am afraid I did not write down the drivers name but Tim Murray might have a better memory than me. I have do not recall seeing any period pics of the car so I can't comment on any differences.


Tony Lees is the new owner.

As far as the bodywork is concerned The CoGNac was rebuilt as a single seater in the 1970s by Ron Footitt. It has been tidied up considerably since.
The car started life in the 1930s as a 2 seater with a modified Amilcar body. The 1925 date is somewhat artitrary and I believe refers to the date of the AC engine. The GN chassis is probably a few years older than that.

#2055 alansart

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 15:42

I was hoping to get down next week, but I think work is going to prevent me and I may not be out to play until at least mid September. This is very frustrating as I've just invested in a bigger lens and I'm itching to try it out!

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#2056 mikeC

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 20:50

...As far as the bodywork is concerned The CoGNac was rebuilt as a single seater in the 1970s by Ron Footitt. It has been tidied up considerably since.
The car started life in the 1930s as a 2 seater with a modified Amilcar body. The 1925 date is somewhat artitrary and I believe refers to the date of the AC engine. The GN chassis is probably a few years older than that.


When Ron Footit was racing it in the seventies it had a post-war AC engine - there was much debate over whether it should be eligible for vintage (pre-1930) awards at the time; presumably it has subsequently been legitimised by fitment of an earlier engine...

#2057 David McKinney

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 21:32

But a postwar AC engine would have been a pre-war design, wouldn't it?

#2058 Alan Cox

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 21:52

When Ron Footit was racing it in the seventies it had a post-war AC engine - there was much debate over whether it should be eligible for vintage (pre-1930) awards at the time; presumably it has subsequently been legitimised by fitment of an earlier engine...

In the '70s and '80s it was certainly accepted for vintage (pre-1931) races and, indeed, Ron first won the Richard Seaman Vintage Trophy in 1974.

#2059 arttidesco

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 04:16

Thanks for all the additional information on the CoGNac, Dutchy, Mike C, David and Alan :up:

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#2060 mikeC

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 07:37

But a postwar AC engine would have been a pre-war design, wouldn't it?


Yes, indeed; but this was at the time when there was a big push to make BMWs fitted with Bristol engines and/or gearboxes ineligible for VSCC events (the late Guy Smith's 328 and my brother's 327/80 being a couple so penalised). And yet the Bristol upgrades were as nothing to the post-war developments of the AC engine. But Ron Footit had influential friends in high places, and Guy Smith didn't...

#2061 Pullman99

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 18:42

All being well, I will try to make amends for missing a whole host of Wednesday Mallorys by being there tomorrow. Anyone else going? Do we know what might turn up?


#2062 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 19:12

Some VSCC guys for sure. Big entry on Sunday.

#2063 Phil Rainford

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 19:13

40+ cars already booked in and almost as many TNFers confirmed .........so rumour has it  ;)


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#2064 alansart

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 20:01

Was hoping to make an appearance but work and replacing a Renault Laguna Timing Belt have taken priority :(

#2065 Pink Snail

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 21:18

Weather looks promising aswell :up: - should be good guys!! Personally, I will be going down the M6 as far as Redditch via Congleton & Tipton back up the M42 (maybe via Donington cafe :love: early afternoon) and home to load up for Thursday :rolleyes: . What fun :well: !! Would much rather be at Mallory Park though :| ...can`t wait for Masters weekend at DP in 3 weeks time :smoking: .

#2066 Ted Walker

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:45

Testing at DP tomorrow with BT8 and Lotus 30 prior to Goodwood .

#2067 Alan Cox

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 17:57

Thanks to Mr Rainford for the lift to Mallory today. Lovely day (yet again) with a wide variety of vehicles taking part. More details will follow in the posts of others.
One of today's highlights was Martin Stretton's handling of his IWR Elan in readiness for the Gold Cup.
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Ace racing scribe Mark Hales made a brief appearance in an FJ Elva
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#2068 Phil Rainford

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 18:54

Great fun as always :)


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Variety is the spice of life :)


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#2069 Alan Cox

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 20:11

Variety is the spice of life :)

Indeed
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Andy Willis (BT8), Jo Waterfield ('Nash) and M Stretton

#2070 alansart

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 21:21

It looks as though you were allowed to photograph from more unusual areas. Very nice :)

#2071 thebullet

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 21:44

It is too late for me to put mine up today, luckily I have a free day tomorrow. So expect them then :)

#2072 David McKinney

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 05:14

Ace racing scribe Mark Hales made a brief appearance in an FJ Elva

Did he also do likewise in a red Brabham BT6?


#2073 Simon Arron

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 07:30

Did he do likewise in a red Brabham BT6?

There was a reddish-orange BT6 present. I didn't notice the rapid beard climb in, but he might have done - there seemed to be at least two mandatory driver changes per session within the Formula Junior community. Meanwhile...
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Not sure who was driving this Escort Mk2...

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...but Andrew Willis handled an Elva as though it were an Escort Mk2.

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Field of dreams.

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Triumph in adversity: Spitfire eventually stopped on the circuit, whereupon it was attended by the Rover 45 course car - a pleasing bit of kindred symmetry.

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Nice to see that the Cognac Special has been painted to match some of the Mallory furniture.

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And, finally, a job I'm happy to leave to others...

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#2074 Phil Rainford

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 07:34

Did he also do likewise in a red Brabham BT6?


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Would this be the one David?


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Posted 18 August 2011 - 07:53

...but Andrew Willis handled a Lotus 23 as though it were an Escort Mk2.


Elva 7S?

#2076 Simon Arron

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:02

Elva 7S?

Sorry, too early in the morning to pay proper attention to my own photos: now corrected.

#2077 Alan Cox

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:41

Elva 7S?

The ex-Stirling Moss version.
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The inscription on the Maserati 150S which was driven by Rick Hall
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#2078 Simon Arron

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:53

At a less exalted level, Adrian Newey appears to have been doing a little moonlighting...
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...but while running without headlamps might improve 2CV aero efficiency, I fear it will render the car ineligible for the forthcoming Snetterton 24 Hours.



#2079 David McKinney

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:28

Would this be the one David?

Thanks, Phil - that's the one :up:


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Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:45

Anyone get any of Van Diemen RF82 FF2000 number 19? Wasnt a great day for testing a single seater, too many mixed speed cars on a short track. I was running an engine in through session one and two but gave up and pulled off half way through trying to get some quick laps in session three as there wasnt any clear laps to be had.

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#2081 Paul Hamilton

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:45

Thanks, Phil - that's the one :up:


The red BT6 is an ex Scuderia Veloce car owned by Aussie Tony Simmons who is running it in various UK and European events this year.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:52

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#2083 Simon Arron

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:03

Anyone get any of Van Diemen RF82 FF2000 number 19?

Nothing stellar, but...
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#2084 Giraffe

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:19

Nothing stellar, but...


More Red Stripe...... :)

#2085 Phil Rainford

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:28

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Inside of Gerrards is awesome for bikes :eek:

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Simon Hadfield's reaction to Mr Arron's claim he had taken a picture of him last week " in focus " is obvious :)

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Cowhide is excellent as a tyre warmer.........however heard Giraffe hide is the ultimate  ;)

#2086 thebullet

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:39

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Another one!

Next time will be when I post my main bulk :)

#2087 Giraffe

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:50

Next time will be when I post my main bulk :)


....christened a "card-dump from Mallory" by a certain much missed TNFer. ;)

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 11:14

Haha indeed, infact my best photos came when the bikes came out. I think after the lunch break, food seemed to have done the trick! But I will do my best... this weeks many cars was much needed after the last couple of weeks.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 11:24

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Is that a Gropa I see before me?


#2090 2F-001

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 11:55

Thanks, everybody, for posting your pics.
I was in Leicester, intending to get along to Mallory again, but was sidetracked by family issues (Leicester is my birthplace). Sorry to have missed you all again.

That bike tyre-warmer looks like a Rorschach (ink-blot) test, but I'm not letting on as to what I "see" there...

Edited by 2F-001, 18 August 2011 - 11:57.


#2091 David McKinney

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 12:47

The red BT6 is an ex Scuderia Veloce car owned by Aussie Tony Simmons who is running it in various UK and European events this year.

...and - quite rightly - enters himself as a New Zealander :)

#2092 Alan Cox

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 13:07

Is that a Gropa I see before me?

Indeed it is. Mr Hadfield has just completed its preparation and he now waits for the owner to decide in which livery to paint it.

#2093 Giraffe

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 13:55

Indeed it is. Mr Hadfield has just completed its preparation and he now waits for the owner to decide in which livery to paint it.


The purple and orange livery of WRA Engineering when George Whitehead drove their Gropa CMC would be nice!

#2094 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 14:08

George's purple & orange was also seen on his big Anglia in special saloons 1968/69. Good pics this week everyone, looking forward to Mallory Sunday.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 14:30

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:love: :love: :love: If those lottery numbers come up that Lola WILL be mine....where is the emoticon for 'green with envy'when you need it?

A '500' and a '5000' in the same shot - not something you see too often!



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Posted 18 August 2011 - 14:43

Indeed it is. Mr Hadfield has just completed its preparation and he now waits for the owner to decide in which livery to paint it.


Or contact Bob Curl or Andrew Mylius.

#2097 Giraffe

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 15:58

Or contact Bob Curl or Andrew Mylius.



....Mike Gribben or Tony Beeson.

#2098 thebullet

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 16:41

Mine is taking longer than I tonight, still aiming for later tonight. Just trying to build up the excitement here ;) haha



#2099 Simon Hadfield

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 16:54

The Gropa was Martyn Denley's car originally (a name I simply could not remember on Wednesday), and was also orange. It is 71-09 and was raced by him in 1971 and 2. Hopefully we will get to bring it back a little better sorted and a little better presented!

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#2100 Alan Cox

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 17:24

Thanks for the correction, Simon.