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[Repco von Brabham]

The huge facilities of the team Honda Racing Argentina in the Pro Racing complex inCarlos Paz city, was choice for Honda Racing of Japan.

They make two cars for racing by Honda Works in the WTCC

Pechito López an the brazilian Carlos Bueno (maybe), are the drivers.,




Of Course, I have hundred of links from Argentine and Brazilian webs with many many details and data., but I choice scan the english magazine.


Kind regards

[Disgrace]

The more in WTCC the merrier. There is a serious lack of manufacturers in that series this year.

But I'd find it odd if they use that model which I don't think they sell in Europe.

Edited by Disgrace, 09 April 2010 - 22:09.

[V8 Fireworks]

The more in WTCC the merrier. There is a serious lack of manufacturers in that series this year.

But I'd find it odd if they use that model which I don't think they sell in Europe.

Well it is the Honda Argentina team.

Why Team Dynamics and Honda Argentina do not use the same car, and make a nice joint entry to challenge for the WTCC title, someone needs to explain!


The City is the sedan version of the Jazz. It is a little Yaris sedan class car with a 1.4L engine or something, a much smaller car than the Civic. As to how it fits Super 2000 specifications is extremely puzzling!?

Edited by V8 Fireworks, 10 April 2010 - 01:07.

[Repco von Brabham]

Update stuff

Honda Japan will have choice between the Civic and the City.,

The Honda Argentina factory request to Japan for choice the Civic., the team have six years of experience with this model., and won four championships with hem.,


Regards

[Repco von Brabham]

TC 2000 Honda Team looking at WTCC entry



Reigning TC2000 champions Honda Racing Argentina team, have confirmed they're also investigating a potential entry into the World Touring Car Championship.
The team are looking into a full race programme in 2011, as the WTCC switches to new regulations with Super 2000 cars powered by 1.6 litre turbocharged powerplants.

"We want to step up, and the only category to step up to is the WTCC. The problem's not the economics, it's the politics" said Team Director Victor Rosso to TouringCarTimes.

The situation is such that the green light would need to be given by Honda general management for a world championship programme, much like the situation with Toyota reported yesterday on TouringCarTimes (see here).

Rosso went on to say:
"We have the sponsors, we have the technical team, we have the drivers, one is Cacá Bueno from Brazil, and one is Leonel Pernía from Argentina".

The team would set up a base in Milano in Italy, it was initially planned to run the Honda City, which is primarily sold in Latin America & Australia - but will now more than likely be the Civic.

Cacá Bueno is a multi-champion in the Brazilian Stock Car Series, whilst Leonel Pernía drives for the team currently in TC2000, finishing second in last year's championship to José María "Pechito" López.

Pernía will get his first taste of the WTCC next week at Monza, in a one off drive in a Cruze LT prepared by Chevrolet Sweden.

It will not be the first time Honda's have been seen in the WTCC of course, with JAS Motorsport & N-Technology having run the Accord model most recently - but it this project goes ahead, it will be the first full time entry in the World Touring Car Championship by a non-European team.

http://www.touringca...cle.php?id=4769

[V8 Fireworks]

It will not be the first time Honda's have been seen in the WTCC of course, with JAS Motorsport & N-Technology having run the Accord model most recently - but it this project goes ahead, it will be the first full time entry in the World Touring Car Championship by a non-European team.

Hopefully they can find way to co-operate with Team Dynamics* and/or JAS^.

Why FIA is not following the cost-effective new rules of BTCC - who knows FIA

*

^

(yes, this is a FWD rally car. Why they didn't build a AWD S2000 - again who knows!?)

[ezequiel]

I wonder what happens if López dont get into F1... Will Rosso drop Pernía in favour of him? In the end, López is a superior driver. Pernía is good, but is not one of the fastest, his strength is consistency. Cacá is a great choice in my opinion. Anyway, it's nice to see an Argentine international project finally taking shape after that failed NASCAR one and all the dissapointments from past decades with Berta amazing sport cars and its failed projects in F1...

[Disgrace]

Really wish I knew who any of those drivers actually were.

[Repco von Brabham]

I wonder what happens if López dont get into F1... Will Rosso drop Pernía in favour of him? In the end, López is a superior driver. Pernía is good, but is not one of the fastest, his strength is consistency. Cacá is a great choice in my opinion. Anyway, it's nice to see an Argentine international project finally taking shape after that failed NASCAR one and all the dissapointments from past decades with Berta amazing sport cars and its failed projects in F1...

Yesterday, in the Journal "La Mañana de Córdoba" Pechito said tha "not interesting in WTCC, neither to be Hispania F1 test driver"..,

He wish "F1 driver or nothing".,

Pernía is very good touring driver., and he debut the next weekend in MONZA, with the Chevrolet Cruza works car.,

Leonel with Chevy at Monza:
http://uk.eurosport....olet-monza.html


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[One]

BS.... They have got DOME there.

[Repco von Brabham]

BS.... They have got DOME there.

Sorry., but I don't get you post..

What "dome"..??

[ezequiel]

Yesterday, in the Journal "La Mañana de Córdoba" Pechito said tha "not interesting in WTCC, neither to be Hispania F1 test driver"..,

He wish "F1 driver or nothing".,

Pernía is very good touring driver., and he debut the next weekend in MONZA, with the Chevrolet Cruza works car.,

Leonel with Chevy at Monza:
http://uk.eurosport....olet-monza.html


Kind regards

Well, at least in race one he did manage to outperform Vaulkhard... without the tyre puncture he could have been 11th...

[Repco von Brabham]

Sorry, sorry, sorry by the Italian language., BUT is a Breaking News!!!

La Honda torna nel Mondiale Turismo 2011
L'operazione con le Civic sarà gestita dall'argentina Equipo Petrobras



Nel mondiale turismo 2011 arriverà la prima squadra non europea: si tratta dell'Equipo Petrobras che partecipa al campionato TC2000, la serie turismo argentina più importante dominata dalle Civic. L'operazione è promossa dalla Honda argentina e brasiliana (con l'appoggio della Honda Europe) e avrà i colori dell'ufficialità.

La Casa giapponese, quindi, dopo essere uscita dall'attività agonistica in seguito al ritiro in F.1 a fine 2008, tornerà nel 2011 alla ribalta in un campionato mondiale come il WTCC. Ed è molto interessante notare che l'interesse sbocci e venga promosso da una importante filiale sudamericana del costruttore nipponico.

Il team schiererà due Honda Civic tre volumi per una coppia di piloti, uno argentino ed uno brasiliano. Il grande favorito è Leonel Pernia, l'argentino che ha fatto il suo debutto nel WTCC proprio nell'ultimo appuntamento monzese con la quarta Chevrolet Cruze. E si capisce ora quanto l'approccio di Lionel non sia stato affatto casuale, mentre per il pilota brasiliano si fa il nome di Cacà Bueno che gareggia nel campionato carioca.

L'Equipo Petrobras vuole impiantare una struttura logistica in Europa: si parla sempre con più insistenza di creare un punto di appoggio in Spagna, visto che c'è la disponibilità a garantire degli aiuti a chi è intenzionato a investire nel paese iberico.

Il ritorno dell'Honda sarà una manna per il WTCC: la prima gara del campionato del prossimo anno si disputerà proprio in Argentina ed Eurosport ha già siglato il contratto con la televisione più importante il contratto per trasmettere in diretta tutte le gare in diretta. Un'operazione commerciale e di marketing molto importante grazie alla quale la serie ideata da Marcello Lotti si apre a delle realtà che non sono europee.

http://www.omnicorse...bras-2011-civic


Kimd regards.,

[ezequiel]

Well, the Italian are saying its done deal, as well as the race in Potrero next year... and about that pic Repco, that's the driver I would like to see racing for them: Mariano Altuna.

[V8 Fireworks]

I must say the 3door AND 4door Civic hatchback is a great looking car... arguably better than Alfa styling as the best styled small hatchback. Top stuff

Hope they go well in their endeavors racing for Honda

[Repco von Brabham]

Argentina and China set for 2011 WTCC calendar


The 2011 FIA World Touring Car Championship calendar, featuring 12 races, is going to be submitted to the FIA World Motorsport Council on the 10th of September.
"Most of them are traditional venues for our championship, although Suzuka will replace Okayama for the Race of Japan," championship promoter Marcello Lotti said.
Two new countries are going to be on the draft for the 2011 calendar: Argentina and Mainland China.

"These are strategic additions for us, not only because they open new and interesting markets to our manufacturers, but also because the events in Buenos Aires and at the Guangdong International Circuit will be organised together with the respective national Touring Car Championships: TC2000 and CTCC. And this fits perfectly to our aim to establish close relationships between the FIA World Championship and the national ones," said Lotti.

While most of the current venues of the WTCC calendar looks set to be on the calendar, the Moroccan event is still uncertain.

"We wish to include the Race of Morocco in the calendar again. And after the meetings held at the FIA to investigate what happened earlier this year, Morocco’s National Sporting Authority has drafted a serious plan to prevent this from happening again. However, before going any further we need to receive a written confirmation from the event promoter," said Lotti.

http://www.touringca...cle.php?id=5037

We wish have this race in the Potrero de Funes circuit.. because the Buenos Aires "Hermanos Gálvez" racetrack are destroyed, seriously.,

Kind regards

[ezequiel]

Argentina and China set for 2011 WTCC calendar


The 2011 FIA World Touring Car Championship calendar, featuring 12 races, is going to be submitted to the FIA World Motorsport Council on the 10th of September.
"Most of them are traditional venues for our championship, although Suzuka will replace Okayama for the Race of Japan," championship promoter Marcello Lotti said.
Two new countries are going to be on the draft for the 2011 calendar: Argentina and Mainland China.

"These are strategic additions for us, not only because they open new and interesting markets to our manufacturers, but also because the events in Buenos Aires and at the Guangdong International Circuit will be organised together with the respective national Touring Car Championships: TC2000 and CTCC. And this fits perfectly to our aim to establish close relationships between the FIA World Championship and the national ones," said Lotti.

While most of the current venues of the WTCC calendar looks set to be on the calendar, the Moroccan event is still uncertain.

"We wish to include the Race of Morocco in the calendar again. And after the meetings held at the FIA to investigate what happened earlier this year, Morocco’s National Sporting Authority has drafted a serious plan to prevent this from happening again. However, before going any further we need to receive a written confirmation from the event promoter," said Lotti.

http://www.touringca...cle.php?id=5037

We wish have this race in the Potrero de Funes circuit.. because the Buenos Aires "Hermanos Gálvez" racetrack are destroyed, seriously.,

Kind regards

Yeah, BsAs is in terrible conditions, the second option is Termas. The problem is the amount of people in the circuit: in BsAs they secure a good crowd while in Termas they dont think to be able to bring more than 6 thousand people to the circuit, which is a real pity because instead of investing millions in the Gálvez they could go straightforward fot Termas.

[Repco von Brabham]

Yeah, BsAs is in terrible conditions, the second option is Termas. The problem is the amount of people in the circuit: in BsAs they secure a good crowd while in Termas they dont think to be able to bring more than 6 thousand people to the circuit, which is a real pity because instead of investing millions in the Gálvez they could go straightforward fot Termas.

Dear Ezequiel:

Your post is wrong in many items., first issue is that in the TC 2000 race was over 250000 persons., I WAS THERE, (check Radio Panorama and La Gaceta de Tucumán)., and that even the polar cold.,


Second issue: The WTCC race is in March, when the temperatures in Rio Hondo are over 25º degrees, or more., with this weather, IT IS NOT "amount people problems" in Termas., Non lasciare que ti mientan lo giornalistas MAFIOSOS..

Kind regards

[BRG]

Seems that it has all fallen through - both race and team?

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/87894

[Disgrace]

Oh well. WTCC next year will look... well, identical.

[Repco von Brabham]

Seems that it has all fallen through - both race and team?

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/87894

Everything is simply and solely due to the poor condition of the racetrack in Buenos Aires., And political strife prevented the excellent career move Speedway Potrero de Funes., And also the excellent Rio Hondo Termas Speedway.,

Again., The WTCC date was lost exclusively by politican problems., There was no need to race in Buenos Aires., Here in Argentina we have racetracks within ten times better than Buenos Aires.,

Ohhh., the Politics ..