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#1 taran

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 13:10

What is the longest period between wins in F1? To the best of my knowledge it is 15 years for teams (Ligier 1981-1996) and Barrichello with 5 years (2004-2009). Is that right?



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#2 Lights

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 13:12

IIRC it was Patrese. Can't remember how long exactly.

Edited by Lights, 19 April 2010 - 13:12.


#3 Tim Murray

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 13:23

1983 (South Africa) to 1990 (San Marino) - 97 races.

See this earlier thread:

Longest drought

Edited by Tim Murray, 19 April 2010 - 13:27.


#4 taran

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 14:20

1983 (South Africa) to 1990 (San Marino) - 97 races.

See this earlier thread:

Longest drought


Thanks, I did do a search but not for drought... :drunk:
Although I do feel that number of races is probably not the best indicator as the number of races has steadily increased over the years. Perhaps seasons is the best way of looking at it.


#5 Barry Boor

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 19:41

Jean Pablo Montoya has just won a 500 mile Indycar race. He last won in this category 14 years ago.

#6 E.B.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 20:32

That must be the record gap for 500 milers, but I think the overall record gap in US championship racing is probably John Paul Jr's 15 and a bit years.

#7 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 20:43

I think that's a misleading statistic because Montoya's been racing in top level series since 2000. If we're going to judge based on time, the gap is back to his most recent NASCAR win. If it's based on the series he won in, we'd only count the races since his last one. So however many races at the end of 2000 and however many at the start of 2014. 

 

It's not much of a gap if in the time between you win 7 Grands Prix and 3 NASCAR events.



#8 E.B.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 21:06

If the question then effectively becomes "largest number of race defeats between wins" John Paul Jr can be discounted too.

Johnny Rutherford might be a candidate - one early champ car win but nearly a decade before he really hit the big time. Apart from the aftermath of his spectacular Eldora crash, I think he was a regular competitor in the interim.

#9 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 21:36

Well it would become even more complicated with NASCAR having 30+ races a year. But fundamentally I don't like the 2000-2014 Montoya 'win record' because it almost intentionally hides a lot of information. 



#10 E.B.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 21:44

I just meant in champ car racing - my knowledge of NASCAR is on a par with Victoria Beckham's on quantum physics.

#11 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 22:12

I think in most cases when we talk about stats, and particularly records, we're talking about within a series. So at minimum when we talk about JPM or JPj's gaps, we need to point out the many years they simply weren't entered.



#12 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:14

Maurice Trintignant?

That might have the record-keepers busy for a while...

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:48

I think in most cases when we talk about stats, and particularly records, we're talking about within a series. So at minimum when we talk about JPM or JPj's gaps, we need to point out the many years they simply weren't entered.

More a case of select your stat and then choose your rules to suit.  And with TNF around making damn sure you make these clear - witness the "50th Silverstone GP" cock up.


Edited by D-Type, 07 July 2014 - 07:48.


#14 ensign14

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:17

I would submit Nando Minoia, whose period between wins which could be described as 'major' was 20 years; the 1907 Coppa Florio to the 1927 Mille Miglia.

 

If we extend it to teams, AJ Foyt went 22 years between Indy 500 wins (1977 to 1999).  Even taking into account all "Indycar" races I think they went from 1981 to 1996 between wins.