Piquet at Renault and Lotus?
Posted 01 December 2000 - 20:04
Does anyone know how these photos came about? Are they really Piquet, or did someone use his helmet. Whatever, I never saw anything about this before.
I can't imagine Schumacher being allowed to try the McLaren during testing this winter...
Any info would be appreciated.
Posted 01 December 2000 - 21:02
The Lotus looks like an 87 (Paul Ricard ?), and the JPS livery says it is the latter part of the year - which probably makes in the end of '81. Amusingly it might have been Mansell's drive that was on offer to Nelson, his seat was on tender hooks early on in his tenure at Lotus.
The Renault is an RE40, which ran during 1983. The Derek Warwick name on the chassis says it is an end of season test (Jerez?). I would bet that Renault are shopping for a replacement for Alain Prost, who they had just sacked - Warwick had already been signed to replace Eddie Cheever IIRC.
Posted 01 December 2000 - 21:21
Yes, you're right about all of that. What strikes me is that he was allowed by both Renault and Lotus, as well as Bernie, to do so in both cases. Was this common practice amoungst drivers at the time, checking out eachothers' rides in pre/post season testing? I never saw anything like that reported in Grand Prix International at the time and they covered said testing pretty well.
I doubt it was even him looking for a ride in either case - Mansell was Chapman's baby at the time (it was the Peter Warr era where Mansell was in a bind). I'd venture it was de Angelis' seat which was up, or just a joy ride. Perhaps he was checking out the Renault seat that Tambay later filled - he was let go by Ferrari just prior to the last race in 83 was probably wasn't signed at the time this picture was taken.
Like I said, can anyone imagine Schumacher just wishing he could take the Mac out for a tour to see if the grass truly was greener?? I'd love to see it happen, but it never would today.
Without a doubt, seeing Piquet's helmet in those cars certainly is strange. Fun, but strange. [p][Edited by Piquet_1 on 12-01-2000]
Posted 01 December 2000 - 21:51
As for Bernie - he may not have known. Remember that for '82 the spectre of BMW turbos loomed large on the horizon at Brabham. Nelson might have been of the opinion that a DFV would be a better choice, given the relatively stormy relationship between Bernie and BMW at that time. Similarly, during 1983 it had been Prost in the Renault that had pushed Nelson the hardest for the title. If his seat was on offer then perhaps Nelson thought it prudent to investigate.
Posted 01 December 2000 - 22:31
Posted 01 December 2000 - 23:19
But I can not the recall story behind the test.
Posted 02 December 2000 - 01:43
(And if it was from the seat of Nelson's overalls, it's even more amazing the FIA found said fuel legal!)
Posted 02 December 2000 - 01:49
Posted 02 December 2000 - 10:31
Weren't Moreno and Piquet mates? If so perhaps he borrowed Piquet's helmet for some reason.
Posted 07 October 2001 - 07:50
It happened at the tyre test session at Silverstone three weeks before the 1981 British GP. Moreno had a "test contract" with Lotus and he was asked to check out de Angelis' car after the Italian had phoned to say that airline problems prevented him from getting to the track. Not having his own helmet with him, Moreno borrowed one from his friend and fellow-countryman Piquet.
The story was in GPI No 35, 15 July 1981.
Posted 09 October 2001 - 14:05
Sorry guys, but my computer wasn't able to open this images and I'm dying too see 'em. Can someone please give the correct URL for the HP were I may find these pictures, or maybe e-mail me them?
Posted 09 October 2001 - 17:40
Posted 09 October 2001 - 18:35
Originally posted by Gary C
Thanks Chico! I can't see them either! Thought it was my finger trouble!
Me too , I'm dying to see them !