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[TDC]

Romolo Tavoni became Ferrari team manager in 1957, I believe. Anyone know who he succeeded?

Thanks, TC

[pilota]

Romolo Tavoni became Ferrari team manager in 1957, I believe. Anyone know who he succeeded?

Thanks, TC

It was
1956 Eraldo Sculati
1957 Mino Amorotti
1958 - 1961 Romolo Tavoni
Nathan

[TDC]

It was
1956 Eraldo Sculati
1957 Mino Amorotti
1958 - 1961 Romolo Tavoni
Nathan

Anyone know who was the team manager in '55? Was Mino Amorotti with the team then? If so, in what capacity? Thanks, TC

[RStock]

Anyone know who was the team manager in '55? Was Mino Amorotti with the team then? If so, in what capacity? Thanks, TC

Nello Ugolini was team manager.

It seems Mino Amorotti was at Ferrari from around 1953, but I could never determine just what position he held until becoming sporting director. He reportedly was a man of some wealth and good friends with Enzo. Best I can say is he just liked to hang around and helped out from time to time. I've seen photo's of him helping the mechanics fuel the cars, with Amorotti dressed out in suit and tie.

[JB Miltonian]

In the "Le Mans 1955" book, Phil Hill describes the scene in the Ferrari pits after the Levegh accident:

"....The only ones that didn't budge were our timer Nello Ugolini and team manager Mino Amarotti, who'd been sitting at a desk..."

Edited by JB Miltonian, 06 January 2011 - 07:48.

[Arjan de Roos]

Romolo Tavoni became Ferrari team manager in 1957, I believe. Anyone know who he succeeded?

Thanks, TC

Hi TC,

Check out Sculati at:

http://forums.autosp...w...&hl=sculati

[Bruno]

Directeurs département competition * GES

Federico Giberti 1947-1951
Nello Ugolini 1952-1955
Eraldo Sculati 1956
Girolamo "Mino" Ferrari Amorotti 1957
Romolo Tavoni 1958-1961
Eugenio Dragoni 1962-1966
Franco Lini 1967
Franco Gozzi 1968-1970
Peter Schetty 1971-1972
Alessandro Colombo 1973
Luca di Montezemolo 1974-1975
Guido Rosani - Daniele Audetto 1976
Roberto Nosetto 1977
Marco Piccinini 1978-1988
Pier Giorgio Cappelli 1988
Cesare Fiorio 1989-1990
Cesare Fiorio & Claudio Lombardi 1991
Claudio Lombardi 1992
Harvey Postlethwaite & Jean Todt 1993
Jean Todt 1994 - 2007
Stefano Domenicali 2008


and

Directeur technique

Giuseppe Busso 1946 - 1947
Gioachimo Colombo 1948 - 1949
Gioachimo Colombo & Aurelio Lampredi 1950
Aurelio Lampredi 1951 - 1955
Andrea Fraschetti 1956 - 1957
Carlo Chiti 1958 - 1961
Mauro Forghieri 1962 - 1970
Alessandro Colombo & Mauro Forghieri 1971
Alessandro Colombo 1972
Alessandro Colombo & Mauro Forghieri 1973
Mauro Forghieri 1974 - 1983
Mauro Forghieri & Harvey Postlethwaite 1984
Harvey Postlethwaite 1985 - 1986
Gustav Brunner 1986
John Barnard 1987 - 1990
Enrique Scalabroni 1991
John Barnard 1992 - 1996
Gustav Brunner 1993 - 1997
Aldo Costa 1995
Ross Brawn 1997 - 2006
Rory Byrne 1999 - 2005
Mario Almondo 2007
Aldo Costa 2008

Edited by Bruno, 06 January 2011 - 09:30.

[Arjan de Roos]

Directeurs département competition * GES

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Guido Rosani - Daniele Audetto 1976
....

Wasn't Rosani already responsible in 1973? At least he was at the Scuderia at that time.

[Arjan de Roos]

Wasn't Rosani already responsible in 1973? At least he was at the Scuderia at that time.

His father was a Lancia engineer involved with the D50, whose remakes wouldn't have existed without Guido (the son).

[Bruno]

Wasn't Rosani already responsible in 1973? At least he was at the Scuderia at that time.

yes

[TDC]

Thank you, gentlemen. The specific reason for the query is that I'm trying to sort out (understand) a quote by Phil Hill during a discussion about the '55 race at Le Mans. He said how happy he was to hear Castellotti tell Amorotti that he, Phil, the new boy, "stayed right behind me for a lap!" Later in the same conversation, Phil spoke of Uglioni staying out on the pit wall, never moving during the horrible crash. So, I'm trying to sort out how to accurately refer to Uglioni's and Amorotti's role with Ferrari at Le Mans that year.

Again, thanks very much for your help, TC

[RStock]

Thank you, gentlemen. The specific reason for the query is that I'm trying to sort out (understand) a quote by Phil Hill during a discussion about the '55 race at Le Mans. He said how happy he was to hear Castellotti tell Amorotti that he, Phil, the new boy, "stayed right behind me for a lap!" Later in the same conversation, Phil spoke of Uglioni staying out on the pit wall, never moving during the horrible crash. So, I'm trying to sort out how to accurately refer to Uglioni's and Amorotti's role with Ferrari at Le Mans that year.

Again, thanks very much for your help, TC

I've been doing some checking of reference material, and honestly it's a bit confusing. I see where Amorotti is refered to as "sporting director" and also as "team manager" since 1953, but others are also listed during those years.

Amorotti was a man of great wealth, and the work he did at Ferrari he did for free, except being reimbursed for expenses. He was good friends with Enzo and Enzo placed a lot of trust in him. Apparently he was one of the few who could tell Enzo just what he thought without worrying how Enzo would take it. My best guess is, Amorotti had other business to attend to outside of Ferrari during his time there, and would occasionally leave to see to it. Others would temporarily take his place while he did.

That's just a guess though. Perhaps someone will come along who knows for certain.

[Graham Gauld]

I've been doing some checking of reference material, and honestly it's a bit confusing. I see where Amorotti is refered to as "sporting director" and also as "team manager" since 1953, but others are also listed during those years.

Amorotti was a man of great wealth, and the work he did at Ferrari he did for free, except being reimbursed for expenses. He was good friends with Enzo and Enzo placed a lot of trust in him. Apparently he was one of the few who could tell Enzo just what he thought without worrying how Enzo would take it. My best guess is, Amorotti had other business to attend to outside of Ferrari during his time there, and would occasionally leave to see to it. Others would temporarily take his place while he did.

That's just a guess though. Perhaps someone will come along who knows for certain.

In many discussions with Romolo Tavoni he indicated that Amorotti and he shared the job from 1957 with Amarotti dealing with the car and technical side and Tavoni dealing with the drivers and the race planning. In the photo below Amorotti, with his back to the camera explains a point at Modena autodrome to Luigi Musso,, left, Peter and Louise Collins.



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[Arjan de Roos]

I've been doing some checking of reference material, and honestly it's a bit confusing. I see where Amorotti is refered to as "sporting director" and also as "team manager" since 1953, but others are also listed during those years.

Amorotti was a man of great wealth, and the work he did at Ferrari he did for free, except being reimbursed for expenses. He was good friends with Enzo and Enzo placed a lot of trust in him. Apparently he was one of the few who could tell Enzo just what he thought without worrying how Enzo would take it. My best guess is, Amorotti had other business to attend to outside of Ferrari during his time there, and would occasionally leave to see to it. Others would temporarily take his place while he did.

That's just a guess though. Perhaps someone will come along who knows for certain.

His full name was Girolamo Ferrari Amorotti (Mino in short). He held an university (Aeronautics) engineering degree from the Poly of Milan. During the war he also was responsible at Alfa Romeo for the production of aeroplane engines. He came from a wealthy family and was a well to do farmer or better land owner. Within Modenese circles he seemd to have been quite influential. His interest in engineering led him to concentrate on the cars and mechanics, while other tasks of the Direttore Sportivo like negotiating with organisers and drivers was not really his thing. Later Tavoni was added to his side for these activities.
His fortunate situation made him state that he worked for the Scuderia for free and did it for the passion. He is also better to be considered as a friend of Enzo, rather than an employee. He was also one of the few in Ferrari history who could speak out freely to Enzo. He was at Ferrari from 1953 to 1960 and left when his interest had faded and he wanted to spent more time to other things like his business, only to come back at Serenisimma.
I am not sure if he was close family as Ferrari is not an uncommon name in Italy.

[RStock]

In many discussions with Romolo Tavoni he indicated that Amorotti and he shared the job from 1957 with Amarotti dealing with the car and technical side and Tavoni dealing with the drivers and the race planning.

He was at Ferrari from 1953 to 1960 and left when his interest had faded and he wanted to spent more time to other things like his business, only to come back at Serenisimma.

I saw an interview with Tavoni awhile back, it had been translated from Italian so my comprehension was a bit sketchy, but it appears he said he got the job upon recommendation by Amorotti. I doubt it took much convincing of Enzo due to his faith in both Amorotti and Tavoni. Tavoni told that Amorotti was on his way to SA for the Temporada series which is why Tavoni got the job. That seems to jibe with Tavoni being named to the positionin '58 and Amorotti not leaving Ferrari until '60.

I am not sure if he was close family as Ferrari is not an uncommon name in Italy.

I wondered about that also. Perhaps a distant relation.

[Arjan de Roos]

... but it appears he said he got the job upon recommendation by Amorotti. ...

Thats right. Tavoni was already at Ferrari in 1950.

I wondered about that also. Perhaps a distant relation.

Some writings call him a cousin to Enzo. I doubt it.