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#1 Flat Black 84

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 20:40

Walt Faulkner was the first in 1950. Who were the others?

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#2 arttidesco

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 20:51

Teo Fabi was second in 1983 not sure who was third ?

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 21:04

'Smoke' Tony Stewart, depicted here in a photo by Bob Jennings, started from pole in his Rookie Year 1996 after Luyendyk was disqualified for 7lbs under weight and Scott Brayton the previous years pole sitter died practising in his back up car.

#4 Jim Thurman

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 22:45

'Smoke' Tony Stewart, depicted here in a photo by Bob Jennings, started from pole in his Rookie Year 1996 after Luyendyk was disqualified for 7lbs under weight and Scott Brayton the previous years pole sitter died practising in his back up car.

Started first, yes, but despite revisionists trying to ever pad Stewart's records, he did not win the pole.

Brian, where are you, could you please weigh in with your thoughts on this? ;)

#5 RA Historian

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 23:15

Started first, yes, but despite revisionists trying to ever pad Stewart's records, he did not win the pole.

Jim is right. Brayton perished after he had already won the pole for the 1996 race. Stewart may have started from the pole, but he did not win it.
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Posted 20 July 2010 - 23:26

Regarding the title of this thread, "Rookie Poll Winners at the Indy 500" :

Winning the "poll" is meaningless; it is winning the election that counts!  ;)

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 23:58

Regarding the title of this thread, "Rookie Poll Winners at the Indy 500" :

Winning the "poll" is meaningless; it is winning the election that counts!  ;)

Tom (Just being a wise guy!)


Does post #5 not belong on the Blood Pressure! thread Tom :rotfl:

#8 RA Historian

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 01:12

Does post #5 not belong on the Blood Pressure! thread Tom :rotfl:

I assume you mean post 6, and yes it very well could be!
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Edited by RA Historian, 21 July 2010 - 01:14.


#9 David McKinney

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 06:39

Started first, yes, but despite revisionists trying to ever pad Stewart's records, he did not win the pole.

It could be argued that, as the fastest survivor from qualifying, he "won" pole :)


#10 Doug Nye

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:17

It could also be argued that 'poll' position - as in 'head' - could be the correct spelling... :cool:

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:52

Started first, yes, but despite revisionists trying to ever pad Stewart's records, he did not win the pole.

Brian, where are you, could you please weigh in with your thoughts on this?;)


Unfortunately, away from home base with a lap top that will not let me on, so I'm sitting in a motel lobby outside Washington D.C. writing this.

I remember the entire Menard team at Scott's funeral. There is a beautiful piece of artwork that depicts the start of the 1996 Indy 500 with Scott in a "ghost car" hovering above the front row at the beginning of the race, with Tony Stewart in his inherited pole position. I've seen Tony interviewed numerous times. During introduction the "rookie pole winner" is part of the list of accomplishments of his stellar career. Not once have I heard him give credit to Scott and correct the interviewer that he inherited the position. Highly unsatisfactory in my view. I'm a bit biased though. It was 1996, but Scott made a gutsy move that day and risked a lot to get the pole position. In my opinion, Scott is deserving of the credit for the 1996 Indianapolis 500 pole position.

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 18:28

I assume you mean post 6, and yes it very well could be!
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Another excuse for a BP post I am sure :up:


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Posted 22 July 2010 - 15:29

Sorry about the error in the title. I feel like a bloody fool.

Nevertheless, any further information related to the original question? Did no rookie really win the POLE for the '500' between 1950 and the 90s? Seems incredible.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 17:16

See Post 2 Teo Fabi was the second rookie pole winner in 1983 :wave:

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 17:35

So the list reads

1. Walt Faulkner was the first in 1950 seen here in Mexico.

2. Teo Fabi 1983

3. Tony Stewart 1996 *

* Following disqualification of Luyendyk and death of Scott Brayton

Edited by arttidesco, 22 July 2010 - 17:35.