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#101 GeoffR

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 01:38

Maybe I missed something in earlier posts, but which car sales business was Ross Farmer involved in?

AFAIK Ross Farmer worked for Motors (Holden dealers) in Hobart. Was well known for taking 'suitable' cars from the used car lot to run in championship trials, and returning them to the lot afterwards. Not sure of his racing career though?
Could also mention Ray Long? When I first came to Tassie Ray Long Motors sold used cars I'm sure, as well as mechanical repairs.


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#102 Lola5000

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:41

Alan Caelli long time family friend ,I would say Alan at some stage owned or worked in the motor trade ,i think for a Ford dealer.
Alan is still alive,although these days is not the health he was.
Great life,married a few times,raced cars,horses,pawn broker,lived on canel boats in the UK/France and for a number of years lived on a motor boat at the St Kilda marina.
Last time i saw Alan about 5 years ago he had a Ferrari 365 .

#103 Lola5000

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:59

another VIC still alive is Don Mcdonald who raced in the '53 AGP at Albert park,how many from that race are still with us?

#104 austmcreg

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 13:08

AFAIK Ross Farmer worked for Motors (Holden dealers) in Hobart. Was well known for taking 'suitable' cars from the used car lot to run in championship trials, and returning them to the lot afterwards. Not sure of his racing career though?
Could also mention Ray Long? When I first came to Tassie Ray Long Motors sold used cars I'm sure, as well as mechanical repairs.

Thanks Geoff. Being a NorWest Coaster, Hobart was at the end of the earth....

Mention of Ray Long reminds me. Add Bill McGregor of Bill McGregor Autos (early to mid 60s in Hobart) who raced the ex Ray Long Elfin in that period.

Rob Saward

#105 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 22:02

Brian Morrell, raced an Elfin in the 60s and still works occasionally for his son. He was a dealer himself for well over 20 years.

#106 GeoffR

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 22:59

Thanks Geoff. Being a NorWest Coaster, Hobart was at the end of the earth....
Mention of Ray Long reminds me. Add Bill McGregor of Bill McGregor Autos (early to mid 60s in Hobart) who raced the ex Ray Long Elfin in that period.
Rob Saward


Rob, a bit O/T but I don't suppose you're related to Jim Saward?? I remember Jim organising a number of NWCC championship trials & rallies in the '70s, including the innovative Mersey Valley Rally.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 23:00

I havent read all three pages up to this point so these may have already been mentioned.

The other Stilwell is Chris.
From Victoria also
Tina Leo. Sports sedans. Historics
Peter Menere
Graham Blanchard
John Blanchard
Brian Shead. Motor improvements. Cheetah cars
Brian Sampson. Motor Improvements

I'm sure there are more will add them as I remember

Cheers
Peter Sneddon

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 23:20

Rob, a bit O/T but I don't suppose you're related to Jim Saward?? I remember Jim organising a number of NWCC championship trials & rallies in the '70s, including the innovative Mersey Valley Rally.

I will PM you later today.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 23:48

Sorry - I missed this whilst I was away.
There you go:

Bob Beasley
Damon Beck
Alton Boddenberg
Jack Brabham
Bill Bryden
Kevin Burton
Chris Clearihan
Dennis Cribben
Greg Cusack
Brian Foley
Denis Geary
Ian Geoghegan
Leo Geoghegan
Arnold Glass
Ray Gulson
Alan Hamilton
John Harvey
Ron Hodgson
Robin Hood
Bob Jane
Bill Jane
Phil Jones
Brad Jones
Kim Jones
Stan Jones
Geoff Leeds
Ken Lindsay
Ray Lintott
Doug Macarthur
Malcolm Mason
David McKay
Alec Mildren
Brian Muir
Robbie Muir
John Prisk
Dean Rainsford
Gary Rogers
David Seldon
Barry Nixon-Smith
Charlie Smith
Monty South
Max Stewart
Bib Stillwell
Des West
Ron Ward
Peter Williamson


And the not sures

Paul Bolton
Noel Riley
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Add Frank Kleinig senior (Renault franchise '50's) Myself (Coffs Harbour Motors, Holden, then VW, Renault, Subaru) Jim (Tex) Downie, Parrramatta rd car-yard


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:08

Add Frank Kleinig senior (Renault franchise '50's) Myself (Coffs Harbour Motors, Holden, then VW, Renault, Subaru) Jim (Tex) Downie, Parrramatta rd car-yard

Done Kev :)

#111 Lola5000

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 22:51

another VIC to add is longtime Alfa dealer Bill Clemens? spelling.

#112 GMACKIE

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 23:23

Max Winkless.....sold the odd Volvo, or three.

#113 Repco22

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:20

I've had a go at separating them to a state by state listing...

And putting them in alphabetical order and dropping out the blokes who were in other occupations in the motor trade other than to do with car sales. Most of the list is, however, based on previous posts and there may be some I've missed or not dealt with properly.

I have also added a lot of names I've come across, though I have had to put a query against some and there's a little list at the bottom of 'uncertainties' and an unknown location. I have listed Brian Maguire under Victoria because I think he may have come from there.

Any changes needed, please advise and I will edit this post.

WA

Sydney Anderson
Eric Armstrong
Jack Ayres
Aub Victor Badger
Alf Barbagallo
Rod Donovan
Clem Dwyer
Jim Harwood
Don Hall
Wally Higgs
John Hughes
Ron Lindau
John Luscombe
Cyril Poole
Ron Posselt
Brian Rhodes
Gordon Stephenson
George Wakelin


Ray, here are some more West Australians;
Dave Sullivan
David 'Rockford'
Jim Percival
Stuart Campbell
Norm Scott
Max McCracken
Wally Knox
Warren Matthews
Tony McAlinden
Jim Brewer
Don Reimann was involved in interstate car procurement and sales in conjunction with Jack Brabham when Don lived in SA [ before he moved to WA.]
I don't know if it was a 'business' as such.
The following drivers were better-known in speedway but did have the odd start at Caversham;
Laurie Stevens
Geoff Stanton
Bill Jost





#114 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:42

Originally posted by GMACKI
Max Winkless.....sold the odd Volvo, or three.


I know he rallied...

Did he race?

Thanks for that list, Rod.

#115 GMACKIE

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 19:45

I know he rallied...

Did he race?

Thanks for that list, Rod.

I thought he did.......but we all know what 'Thought' did. :rolleyes:


#116 seldo

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:19

I know he rallied...

Did he race?

Thanks for that list, Rod.

Yes Max did a few races. I raced against him at a couple of early Amaroos

#117 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 15:52

Okay, when I get around to it I'll add all these in...

Also W H Lowe, who seems to have been in the industry for a long time. He raced in the AGPs at Phillip Island and had a 250LM in the sixties, he was the Australian Ferrari agent at the time, but I don't think he's been mentioned in this thread before.

#118 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:35

Not sure if already mentioned, Greg Crick and John Bowe are still dealers I think. Crick is/ was hondas for a long time.
And Peter Mcleod, and John Burke though I am sure he was mentioned.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 20 December 2012 - 02:36.


#119 Ray Bell

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 13:01

John Burke, I think I mentioned is a panel beater...

John Bourke sold Toyotas etc. Peter McLeod is listed, Greg Crick is in the list too, it's on this page. John Bowe?

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#120 wolseley680

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:52

Maurie Quincey hasn't been mentioned yet.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:00

I have a few names to add to the QLD contingent:

Barry Tapsall raced one of the ex-works Datsun 1200 Coupes, then a 180B sport sedan and, IIRC, sold cars for Qld Datsun distributor, Ira Berk.

Both of the above cars ended up in the hands of Brian Power Junior who worked at the Datsun dealer on Gympie Rd Chermside, Brian Power Motors. His Dad, of course, raced openwheelers, incl. Renmax BN1.


#122 Lola5000

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:12

Brian Power is another ,as he raced Porsche GT3's.
Marc Cini who races Porches.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 23:46

2 moreThe Late Des Wall and Jim Downie raced  50's early 60's in Mg's and bobtail cooper with lynn archer he was manager on parramatta road concord before the arnotts biscuits bridge



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 04:47

Maurie Quincey hasn't been mentioned yet.


You just did! :)

 

Two-Way Motors in Moonee Ponds (the one with the Gladiolus out front)



#125 GMACKIE

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:40

2 moreThe Late Des Wall and Jim Downie raced  50's early 60's in Mg's and bobtail cooper with lynn archer he was manager on parramatta road concord before the arnotts biscuits bridge

I knew [and raced with] Des Wall in the late 70s. He was an earthmoving contractor then....when did he get involved in car sales? Are we talking about the same bloke?



#126 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:58

I knew [and raced with] Des Wall in the late 70s. He was an earthmoving contractor then....when did he get involved in car sales? Are we talking about the same bloke?

Des was a contacter all the time Iknew and raced against him, from the late 80s until his death.



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 02:02

I knew [and raced with] Des Wall in the late 70s. He was an earthmoving contractor then....when did he get involved in car sales? Are we talking about the same bloke?

Hi Greg,I First met Des when he was running a new white LJ torana GTR in aLap dash at Oran Park with the southern sporting car club in 1973, which incedently he rolled at Yamaha on his first run. Around 2006, I heard he owned or part owned,The South Coast Motor Group, which were the Dealers in Nowra For Nissan, Honda and mitsubishi.


Edited by tracken, 30 March 2014 - 02:04.


#128 john medley

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 23:17

Re: Jim Downie. I have been contacted by Jim's son for info about his father ( who, he says, rarely if ever mentioned anything about his motor racing  to his son). So far I have provided some photos, garage location on Parramatta Rd, residential addresses at Carlingford and Iluka, excerpts from Bathurst book -- but little more. Can any here contribute more?



#129 Lola5000

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 01:41

Do we have Darcy Russell owns a used car yard in Melbourne raced Lola T300 and a Dodge Viper.



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:06

Re: Jim Downie. I have been contacted by Jim's son for info about his father ( who, he says, rarely if ever mentioned anything about his motor racing to his son). So far I have provided some photos, garage location on Parramatta Rd, residential addresses at Carlingford and Iluka, excerpts from Bathurst book -- but little more. Can any here contribute more?



Was it Rothwell and Cullen the Holden Dealer where he worked?

Edited by wagons46, 01 April 2014 - 02:08.