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Poll: Which driver generation is better? (206 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. The generation of 2010 drivers is better than the generation of 1991 (Prost-Senna-Piquet-Mansell-Schumacher-Berger-Alesi-Patrese-Hakkinen) (18 votes [8.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.74%

  2. No, the 1991 generation was better than the 2010 generation (55 votes [26.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.70%

  3. The 2010 generation is driver-wise about as good as the 1991 generation (17 votes [8.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.25%

  4. You simply cannot compare different eras (72 votes [34.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.95%

  5. None of the two (1991, 2010), the 1967/1968 generation was the best! (7 votes [3.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.40%

  6. None of the above: my best driver generation is: (please describe) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 2010 simply has more quantitative depths compared to the 1991 generation (5 votes [2.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.43%

  8. 2010 is the best of all driver generations in history (10 votes [4.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.85%

  9. It's too early to tell....we can judge only in hindsight (22 votes [10.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.68%

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#1 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:12

As instigated by Sir Jackie Stewarts comment "2010 is the best line-up of drivers since my day" http://www.f1fanatic...-my-day-part-2/
we had a spirited discussion as to whether indeed 2010 is the best driver generation since 1967/1968, or whether the end of 80s/beginning of 90s is not unfairly discarded or whether you cannot compare different eras.

While I tend towards the last (different eras cannot be compared) I do not believe that 1991 was in any way worse than either the end of the 60s nor the 2010 generation.
If I were to compare 1991 rates at least statistically as the most impressive field of the sport:

You had with Prost, Senna, Mansell, Piquet, Schumacher and Hakkinen six different (past, present and future) world champions on the grid, taking 20 WDCs (!) and 267 GP wins (!!!), and that is not counting other GP winners like Berger and Patrese. Mighty in statistical comparison to 1967/1968, but then you did not have as many GPs per season back then.

We do not know how the 2010 generation will finally pan out statistically - it might be that they - having so far in total 11 WDCs on the grid - might transcend the 20 WDCs of 1991, it might be that they will gain 300+ GP wins, it might be that they will stay slightly behind the 1991 crop.

Please simply answer if 2010/1991/1968 and the question of comparing eras is one of the above options for you and explain why.

Edited by aditya-now, 01 November 2010 - 12:49.


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#2 primer

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:17

Is the 2010 generation of drivers better than Prost-Senna-Mansell-Piquet-Schumacher?


Yes, unquestionably.

and explain why.


Oops, missed this originally. Why? Because they drive closer to the limit most of the time, and with far more consistency. On surface it appears that the various tools and technologies at the disposal of drivers and teams help the drivers in achieving this goal, but they also increase the driver workload in the cockpit manifold. Current generation of drivers is also more fit, and they deal with far more PR work and media BS in a month than many oldies did in an entire season.

I voted for '2010 is the best of all driver generations in history'. I feel the same is true for motoGP, too.

Edited by primer, 01 November 2010 - 12:25.


#3 Smile17

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:25

The 2010 generation is the most competetive one for sure. It's hard to compare two eras, but I think 2010 has been the best one so far.

#4 Massa_f1

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:29

The 2010 generation is the most competetive one for sure. It's hard to compare two eras, but I think 2010 has been the best one so far.



Prost Senna Mansell Piquet Schumacher are still better than this generation i really dont see why people keep on saying this year has been the best for talent wise.

Why is that.

We have drivers making silly errors all over the place and without them the title would of been Red Bulls long ago.

#5 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:30

The driver requirements are so different that it's unfair to compare. Regardless of the performance level that modern drivers maintain they have had alot of the hard work removed such as having power steering, teams of egghead engineers perfecting the car for them with computer analysis. On the other hand drivers from the past had much less distractions and could focus on the driving a lot more.

One thing's for sure, the characters themselves were more interesting back then and less 'corporatist'.

#6 Diablobb81

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:31

In the "omg, best evar" discussion do we ignore the number of mistakes made by the top pilots in '08 and '10?Or do we consider that Button and Webber are (or might be) WDC's?

#7 robefc

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:31

Prost Senna Mansell Piquet Schumacher are still better than this generation i really dont see why people keep on saying this year has been the best for talent wise.

Why is that.

We have drivers making silly errors all over the place and without them the title would of been Red Bulls long ago.


How many silly errors did the drivers you name above use to make out of interest?

#8 mkoscevic

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:31

Close.

#9 pRy

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:33

You can't compare the eras because the cars are much easier to drive now. Throw the 2010 field into 1991 cars and then we'll see.

#10 Massa_f1

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:34

How many silly errors did the drivers you name above use to make out of interest?



Normaly about 2 or 3 major (possible championshop loosing) mistakes a season. Remeber when the commentators used to say thats his one or two mistake used up for the year and most of the tme they were right. This lot this year have made many more.

#11 smitten

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:35

I didn't vote because I think you have an option missing - it's too soon to tell. For instance, in 1991, Schumacher had 0 titles, and 0 race wins. His legacy is now clear for all to see. Mansell was not yet a WDC and so on.

What I do think is that this years crop of driver shows some remarkable talent, but we can't judge them against previous eras for another 10 years or so. Will Vettel win 7 WDC or none? Hamilton 7 WDC or 1? Alonso 7 WDC or 2? &c We will never know which grid of drivers is 'best', but the arguments are best held retrospectively.

#12 Watkins74

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:40

I voted No.

Those olders drivers were not perfect but I bet Alonso as an example has had more driver induced mistakes in this one year than Prost made in his entire career.

I think any of those 5 drivers mentioned above would have won the WDC this year driving for any of the top 3 teams, Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari.

Looking at that list again I don't see how Button, Vettel and Webber could even be mentioned with the 1991 drivers. It is not even close. Those 1991 drivers represent 17 WDC's.

I wonder how many people who answer this will have seen the 1991 season or those drivers race?

BTW - I like Alonso so don't get all worked up. :cool:

#13 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:42

I didn't vote because I think you have an option missing - it's too soon to tell. For instance, in 1991, Schumacher had 0 titles, and 0 race wins. His legacy is now clear for all to see. Mansell was not yet a WDC and so on.

What I do think is that this years crop of driver shows some remarkable talent, but we can't judge them against previous eras for another 10 years or so. Will Vettel win 7 WDC or none? Hamilton 7 WDC or 1? Alonso 7 WDC or 2? &c We will never know which grid of drivers is 'best', but the arguments are best held retrospectively.


You are right, I fixed it for you. Thanks for the hint!

Edited by aditya-now, 01 November 2010 - 12:43.


#14 Massa_f1

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:43

I voted No.

Those olders drivers were not perfect but I bet Alonso as an example has had more driver induced mistakes in this one year than Prost made in his entire career.

I think any of those 5 drivers mentioned above would have won the WDC this year driving for any of the top 3 teams, Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari.

Looking at that list again I don't see how Button, Vettel and Webber could even be mentioned with the 1991 drivers. It is not even close. Those 1991 drivers represent 17 WDC's.

I wonder how many people who answer this will have seen the 1991 season or those drivers race?

BTW - I like Alonso so don't get all worked up. :cool:



I agree thats what my above points were trying to say.

#15 teejay

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:43

You can't compare the eras because the cars are much easier to drive now. Throw the 2010 field into 1991 cars and then we'll see.


Or throw the 91 field into 2010 cars?



#16 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:46

Normaly about 2 or 3 major (possible championshop loosing) mistakes a season. Remeber when the commentators used to say thats his one or two mistake used up for the year and most of the tme they were right. This lot this year have made many more.


That was always Niki Lauda's stance - you can't become WDC if you make more than 2 major mistakes in that year.

And it seemed to be right for the 70s, 80s and 90s (surely also for the 50s and 60s, when a single major mistake could be very costly....), but not so for the years 2008, 2009 and 2010 when a higher percentage of mistakes among the top drivers has been recorded than ever before.

#17 primer

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:46


>Implying that drivers in previous decades did not make 'silly errors'.

#18 BenettonB192

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 12:51

In '91 only a real man could drive a F1 car on its limit. Today it's boys who appear to drive the cars like they play a video game.



#19 primer

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 13:01

who appear


Appearances can be deceptive. Driving a current generation GP2 car is close enough approximation of 'manliness™' required to drive a circa 1990 F1 car.



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#20 SRi130Brett

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 13:28

2010 guys are not at the same level of the 1990/91 lot of the 67/68 lot.

The amount of mistakes made by all the title contenders this year is astonishing, its more a case of no one being good enough to win it but someone has to this year. The fast guys have been incosistent (SV, LH and FA) whereas JB and MW have been considtent but not really fast enough.

The hype and media attention around F1 now distorts things.

#21 stillOrange

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 13:30

Voted "You simply cannot compare different eras".
And I also think you shouldn't compare different eras cars. It's also impossible to do.

Edited by stillOrange, 01 November 2010 - 13:32.


#22 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 13:47

Voted "You simply cannot compare different eras".
And I also think you shouldn't compare different eras cars. It's also impossible to do.


My suggestions: we put all drivers into a car like in your avatar and then see which generation is best!  ;)


#23 stillOrange

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 13:57

My suggestions: we put all drivers into a car like in your avatar and then see which generation is best!  ;)


If we do that then I think the generation of kids still too young to drive would come on top! ;)

#24 man

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 15:54

Lets look at the other end of the grid first.

1991 had a fair number of passed it/journeymen drivers such as:

Nakajima
Blundell
Alboreto
Caffi
Grouillard
Gugelmin
Capelli
Pirro
Martini
Morbidelli
Moreno
Boutsen
Comas
Bernard
Gachot
De Cesaris
Suzuki
Piquet
etc etc

From San Marino 1987 Piquet was a different driver and especially when he moved to Lotus in 1988 onwards. In 1988 until the end of his career, Piquet was merely making up the numbers with the odd ocassion where he put a bit of effort into it like at Silverstone 1989 and Australia 1990. Do not forget at times he was out qualified by Nakajima and was matched by the likes of Nannini and even Moreno now and again. The skill was there but the motivation was gone. Therefore I put Piquet on that list too.

In 2010 you have a lot less 'fluff'.

I rank the combined grid as follows

Senna >big gap > Hamilton > Alonso > Prost/Berger/Mansell/Vettel/Kubica/ >Webber/Button/Patrese > whole batch of drivers very closely matched.

I think if you take Senna out of the picture, I think there is a significant gap between Hamilton/Alonso and the rest. Then come the likes of Vettel and Kubica who are as good as Mansell, Prost, Berger were in 1991.

Edited by man, 01 November 2010 - 15:58.


#25 man

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 16:05

Aditya...you mention Hakkinen from 1991. While I agree Hakkinen was a force to be reckoned with later in his career, in 1991 he was ok but was easilly put in his place by part-time Lotus driver Johnny Herbert.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 16:15

You kinda cannot compare drivers from different decades, and yet I believe the current grid is the best grid ever. But it just needs one set of mind to create that thought. Nobody can be sure of being right. I just base it on the increasing amount of racing drivers around the world. You're only as good as your performance against your opposition. If you're truly exceptional, perhaps the rest simply wasn't that good. That doesn't happen these days.

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#27 jjcale

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 16:21

I voted No.

Those olders drivers were not perfect but I bet Alonso as an example has had more driver induced mistakes in this one year than Prost made in his entire career.

I think any of those 5 drivers mentioned above would have won the WDC this year driving for any of the top 3 teams, Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari.

Looking at that list again I don't see how Button, Vettel and Webber could even be mentioned with the 1991 drivers. It is not even close. Those 1991 drivers represent 17 WDC's.

I wonder how many people who answer this will have seen the 1991 season or those drivers race?

BTW - I like Alonso so don't get all worked up. :cool:


The top of the grid may have been better (...only 2 great drivers versus 3 or 4 before) though that could be remedied somehwhat by KR coming back and a miraculous return to form by MS... but the middle and bottom of the grid is as strong as its ever been.

Edited by jjcale, 01 November 2010 - 16:34.


#28 man

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 16:23

Now if you go back to 1984/1985 we have some real quality. ;-)

First you have the mighty Lauda, pretty much as fast as anybody in races and could out-wit the best of them in terms of tactics. Prost when he was happy and hungry, Piquet when he had the fire as well as the talent, Senna, not as complete as he was in 1991 but as fast as they come. Spectacular Rosberg, a younger Mansell, Patrese and Alboreto than in 1991. Even Arnoux and Laffite couldn't be ruled out. And then you had De Angelis, Bellof and a newbie Brundle.

I dont think 1991 was a standout year at all. 1984-1985 were special however and I would say those guys are superior to the 2010 batch.

#29 tifosi

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 16:34

There hasn't been a decent driver in a Grand Prix/F1 car since Tazio Nuvalari.

Everyone since is just a pretender.

#30 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 17:30

There hasn't been a decent driver in a Grand Prix/F1 car since Tazio Nuvalari.

Everyone since is just a pretender.


Finally a word of reason! :lol:

But you are discarding Achille Varzi!!!

#31 BrendanMcF

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 18:21

Appearances can be deceptive. Driving a current generation GP2 car is close enough approximation of 'manliness™' required to drive a circa 1990 F1 car.


Quick circuit
1990 Italian GP Monza Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna - 1:26.254
2010 GP2 Monza race Fastest Lap: Sam Bird - 1:31.954

Slow circuit
1990 Monaco GP Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna - 1:24.468
2010 GP2 Monaco race Fastest Lap: Sam Bird - 1:22.052

With what metric do you measure "manliness" as a 1990 F1 car was clearly a lot quicker than a current GP2 car? GP2 drivers don't have to drive one handed for most of the Monaco lap, unlike 1990 F1...

#32 Fastcake

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 18:24

To be brutally honest, and I only saw the twilight of that era, it's pretty much impossible to try.

#33 Obi Offiah

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 18:30

Quick circuit
1990 Italian GP Monza Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna - 1:26.254
2010 GP2 Monza race Fastest Lap: Sam Bird - 1:31.954

Slow circuit
1990 Monaco GP Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna - 1:24.468
2010 GP2 Monaco race Fastest Lap: Sam Bird - 1:22.052

With what metric do you measure "manliness" as a 1990 F1 car was clearly a lot quicker than a current GP2 car? GP2 drivers don't have to drive one handed for most of the Monaco lap, unlike 1990 F1...

The current Monza circuit is alot slower than the 1990 circuit due to the modifications at Lesmo 1 & 2.

#34 Dunder

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 18:31

Comparing competitors from different generations in any sport is very difficult.

Using football as an example, Lionel Messi is faster, fitter, stronger and more skillful than Pele was. Pele, however was head and shoulders above his peers in the 1960's and is still considered by most to be the best player of all time. A large part of this comes down to science - training methods have evolved, diets are optimised etc etc.

By the same token, I would say that the best drivers today are superior (and would lap faster in equal equipment) than those from the early nineties but don't know whether that makes them "better" or not.

#35 Oblomov

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 18:53

Prost Senna Mansell Piquet Schumacher are still better than this generation i really dont see why people keep on saying this year has been the best for talent wise.

Why is that.

We have drivers making silly errors all over the place and without them the title would of been Red Bulls long ago.



I would not say that Piquet, Schumacher and Senna belong to the same generation.

#36 rm111

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 19:39

I would not say that Piquet, Schumacher and Senna belong to the same generation.

Would you say Rubens, Webber and Vettel belong to the same generation?

#37 BenettonB192

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 23:22

Appearances can be deceptive. Driving a current generation GP2 car is close enough approximation of 'manliness™' required to drive a circa 1990 F1 car.


The cars back then were slower yes, but they were also bitches to drive unlike todays cars who drive like on rails.
Lap times have nothing to do with it. 50's or 60's cars were even slower but asked for even more balls to drive them on the limit.

#38 hotstickyslick

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 23:24

The cars back then were slower yes, but they were also bitches to drive unlike todays cars who drive like on rails.
Lap times have nothing to do with it. 50's or 60's cars were even slower but asked for even more balls to drive them on the limit.

Wouldn't they be like Formula Fords with more power?


Back in the eightes to early nineties didn't the big rear slicks and small front slicks give the cars alot more stability at the rear also?

Edited by hotstickyslick, 01 November 2010 - 23:26.


#39 halifaxf1fan

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 23:34

The only way to compare is with a 1983 Delorean equipped with a flux capacitor and a set of traffic cones to setup a test run.

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#40 Nitropower

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 23:40

We always tend to remember past experience as greater / better than present. Look at your grand parents talking.

I'm sure many people here don't have the age to have an opinion on this. And I am one of them because I don't have a clear picture of that era even if I have those races and have seen them several times. So it is very difficult to compare.

#41 Brandz07

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 23:50

well, if we gave them unknown from another era to race in in a big 1991 vs 2010 race, i'd expect the 2010 to beat them. They are more complete drivers, there are loads of reasons for this. But im not saying they have more natural talent, im sure if the 2010 drivers went back to 1991 and 1991 to 2010, i'd say the senna/prost/mansell/etc would be better. it's all about fitness and being able to mantain the levels of concentration that's become 'normal' nowadays.

Edited by Brandz07, 01 November 2010 - 23:51.


#42 lbennie

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 01:12

Yes they are.

for the same reason the 100m dash world record keeps going down every year.
the strides sports science/nutrition etc has made since then, the technology and tools available to help them prepare these days aswell, the professionalism in this era....

sentimentally we will say they are not, but scientifically they must be


Edited by lbennie, 02 November 2010 - 01:14.


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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:50

Quick circuit
1990 Italian GP Monza Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna - 1:26.254
2010 GP2 Monza race Fastest Lap: Sam Bird - 1:31.954

Slow circuit
1990 Monaco GP Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna - 1:24.468
2010 GP2 Monaco race Fastest Lap: Sam Bird - 1:22.052

With what metric do you measure "manliness" as a 1990 F1 car was clearly a lot quicker than a current GP2 car? GP2 drivers don't have to drive one handed for most of the Monaco lap, unlike 1990 F1...


Whenever i see Monaco 1990 & Senna mentioned i always think of his pole lap. Awesome!!



But this one at Jerez is my favorite.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Edited by DILLIGAF, 02 November 2010 - 05:58.


#44 rm111

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 07:54

Yes they are.

for the same reason the 100m dash world record keeps going down every year.
the strides sports science/nutrition etc has made since then, the technology and tools available to help them prepare these days aswell, the professionalism in this era....

sentimentally we will say they are not, but scientifically they must be

Sure they are now more professional but are they better? based on Korea, they certainly aint braver, put todays generation in a car from the 80s and they would be shiting themselves.

#45 PayasYouRace

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 15:51

We always tend to remember past experience as greater / better than present. Look at your grand parents talking.

I'm sure many people here don't have the age to have an opinion on this. And I am one of them because I don't have a clear picture of that era even if I have those races and have seen them several times. So it is very difficult to compare.


Ain't that the truth. Frankly we can't make a decision until they have pretty much all retired. However the best way to it is to look at opinions given during that era. I doubt that in 1986 everyone considered Prost/Senna/Mansell and Piquet (PSM&P) the greatest drivers since whichever group they considered the previous best. Maybe the more people were saying that in 1991.

As it is, we have an excellent group of drivers today, and the nature of the sport requires that they have a different skill set to the PSM&P lot. What I can say is that we're seeing as many great drives and as many silly mistakes as all those drivers made in the period 1985-1991.

What would be nice would be to see more polls with just the options: Yes, No and Don't Know.

#46 Oblomov

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 17:06

Would you say Rubens, Webber and Vettel belong to the same generation?



no

#47 OwenC93

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 17:09

I think that 2010 drivers are very good, but it's just impossible to tell.

I have a feeling 2010 drivers would do well in a 91 car, but not the other way around.

#48 olliek88

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 17:22

I don't think you can really compare different eras, for me, having only been of this world for 22 years i can safely say that in terms of depth of talent, level of talent and excitement i've never had it so good and as much as i love finding out about drivers from the past i can't comment on how good they were compared with now, just that some drivers have a fantastic mythology from the mid/late 80s and maybe in 20/30 years people will be comparing this generation to thiers.

#49 expert

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 17:27

In '91 only a real man could drive a F1 car on its limit. Today it's boys who appear to drive the cars like they play a video game.

:rotfl:


#50 mkoscevic

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 22:09

You can't compare the eras because the cars are much easier to drive now. Throw the 2010 field into 1991 cars and then we'll see.


Throw guy from 1991 into 2010 season to drive 2010 car, handle 2010 amount of data analysis with engineers, do amount of 2010 PR work, let him do 2010 race with all 2010 driver-pit in-race information exchange THEN we'll see.

You can bet 1991 driver would be at least twice more lost then 2010 guy would be in 1991.