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#1 tarmac

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:34

MTV3 just reported that Webber is on his way out Kimi style. RB will pay his salary but he cant compete in F1 2012

Edited by tarmac, 05 November 2010 - 15:35.


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#2 undersquare

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:35

MTV3 just reported that Webber is on his way out Kimi style. RB will pay his salary but he cant compete in F1 2012


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#3 flyer121

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:36

MTV3 just reported that Webber is on his way out Kimi style. RB will pay his salary but he cant compete in F1 2012


If true , I am sure this is what triggered the current outburst and not the other way round.

Edited by flyer121, 05 November 2010 - 15:37.


#4 korzeniow

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:38

MTV3? And not any mention of Kimi in RBR? :lol:

#5 chrisblades85

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:38

What country is MTV? Clearly not the MTV I know??

#6 Mandzipop

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:39

What country is MTV? Clearly not the MTV I know??


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#7 kosmos

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:41

The rumor is all over the paddock, I hope is not true, Mark is a great guy and a good driver, but probably is true.

#8 stillOrange

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:41

The article on their website seems to be pointing at BBC as a source of that info. Was there anything like that mentioned during FP coverage ?

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:43

Holly Samos during FP1 coverage, apparently.

http://news.bbc.co.u...one/9151075.stm

1315: On our Red Button coverage there's more speculation about Mark Webber and his Red Bull future. The Aussie did sign a one-year contract extension back in June but BBC pit-lane reporter Holly Samos says the rumour in the paddock is that he will leave Red Bull at the end of the season whether he wins the title or not. Interesting. Kravitz says the chat is that Webber wouldn't go to another team if he left Red Bull and would simply retire. Anyway, Button is up to fourth with a 1:13.267.


The beeb reporting is of "speculation". If the MTV3 report is a recycling of beeb reporting, then it seems a lot less certain than the MTV3 report seems to have suggested (at least judging by the OP).

#10 KateLM

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:44

MTV3 just reported that Webber is on his way out Kimi style. RB will pay his salary but he cant compete in F1 2012

I'm doubting this because I don't understand why it would happen like that instead of them just releasing him from his contract. Unless Webber is retiring anyway and happy to take the free money. But I don't think it quite makes sense still.

Does MTV3 say this is because of the latest outburst, or before that (i.e. what might have caused it)?

EDIT: If the Beeb is their source for that, clearly MTV3 are misquoting them.

Edited by KateLM, 05 November 2010 - 15:45.


#11 korzeniow

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:44

The article on their website seems to be pointing at BBC as a source of that info. Was there anything like that mentioned during FP coverage ?


They were talking about it a lot on BBC, but only hypotheticaly IIRC.

That's how rumours are made.

MTV3 :down:

#12 chrisblades85

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:50

So probably Bull then? And not Red either.

As much as Mark would like the money for doing nowt. I'm sure, as a racer, he'd rather do that then take the money anyway?

#13 midgrid

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:51

He could take the money and race, albeit in another category?

#14 Amrl

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:52

MTV3 :down:


MTV3 clearly state it's a rumor and name BBC as the source. Shoot the messenger instead.

#15 RME

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:52

Who's Holly Samos?

#16 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:53

I don't know what came first, the non-contract for next year or Webber mouthing off.

In any instance, out of all the top drivers this season, Webber has been the one who has mouthed off the most.

Why not swap him for Massa at Ferrari? But then, he'd probably mouth off even more at Ferrari.

It would be hard at his age to get another driver for 2012, even if he is 2010 champion.

Edited by Ferrari_F1_fan_2001, 05 November 2010 - 15:54.


#17 midgrid

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:53

Who's Holly Samos?


BBC pit-lane reporter.


#18 David1976

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:53

I believe this will happen.

That will leave one of teh most desirable seats in F1 open.

I will put money on Red Bull giving it to a competitive driver who would play second fiddle to Vettel. Hulkenberg anyone?

#19 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:55

I believe this will happen.

That will leave one of teh most desirable seats in F1 open.

I will put money on Red Bull giving it to a competitive driver who would play second fiddle to Vettel. Hulkenberg anyone?


Willi Webber would never allow that to happen.

A Webber-Massa swap could happen.

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#20 RME

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:56

I believe this will happen.

That will leave one of teh most desirable seats in F1 open.

I will put money on Red Bull giving it to a competitive driver who would play second fiddle to Vettel. Hulkenberg anyone?


It does not mean RB will be good again next year really.

#21 Amrl

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:57

I will put money on Red Bull giving it to a competitive driver who would play second fiddle to Vettel. Hulkenberg anyone?

How about Schumacher? I think he's shown this year he has the potential to become a good number two.

#22 David1976

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 15:58

How about Schumacher? I think he's shown this year he has the potential to become a good number two.


Ha ha ha! Very funny.

#23 pRy

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:01

I said in another thread... Webber is talking and thinking himself out of a title.

Yep we get it, things are crap for him within the team, the team want Vettel to do well, the team think Vettel is the future.

Webber just needs to accept that is the case and just keep his head down and focus on running his own two races, doing as well as he can in both and whatever happens happens. If he wins the title, fantastic, he quits and is part of history. If he doesn't, then at least he gave his all.

But his language right now seems to suggest he is doing more feeling sorry for himself than just focussing on kicking Vettel's arse.

I'm not sure how much of the above is due to a season of feeling like an outsider or how much of it is due to the sudden pressure being the title leader and crashing has done to him.

He should go have a chat with Button.. or Hamilton... hell even Eddie Irvine would probably have some good advice for him right now. Get your head down and beat the team on the track.

#24 Don_Humpador

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:01

The BBC were talking about speculation that if Webber wins the WDC he will retire.

It's just speculation, and the BBC told everyone that.

MTV3 picked it up and ran with it, they also said it was just a rumour.

Which is exactly all it is...

#25 flyer121

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:01

How about Schumacher? I think he's shown this year he has the potential to become a good number two.


LOL !!

Ironic but so true at the same time :)

#26 artista

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:11

The rumour has also made it to motorsport-magazin (they don’t name BBC but also call it a rumour):

http://www.motorspor...m-abschied.html

They even go through a list of possible candidates for the seat. :well:


#27 alfista

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:12

The BBC were talking about speculation that if Webber wins the WDC he will retire.

It's just speculation, and the BBC told everyone that.

MTV3 picked it up and ran with it, they also said it was just a rumour.

Which is exactly all it is...


Yeah, but it fits perfectly in the big picture.

#28 LoudHoward

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:14

I wonder how they would arrange Webber to be paid next year, the Red Bull drivers are paid oddly compared to the other teams, the majority of their money comes from performance bonuses, so if he's not racing would he just get the piddly (for a top team) base salary?

Actually, it's kind of interesting, go back over things this year and imagine the money involved. Singapore everyone thought Mark was making life difficult for Hamilton to mark his territory for the championship, he was probably screaming in his helmet: "NO!! I NEED THIS PODIUM TO PAY FOR MY NEW KITCHEN!!!!". All the mechanics throwing their hands up in Turkey: "Damnit, there goes our summer holiday to Fiji...Guess we're off to Swindon again this year."

*crawls back under rock*

#29 Hacklerf

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:17

Arise Sir Kimi :D

#30 Alfisti

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:18

It's pretty clear something is up, I thought Mark's interview was fanatstic. He really did not put a foot wrong if you read the entire transcript, nothing he said was offensive.

I suspect he may well be out, though I dispute it's a great seat because Mark is mega strong headed and I cannot see any other driver that i snot an out and out superstar (Alonso/Hamilton) survive the way he has this year. RBR will be looking for a number 2, not a guy to challenge Vettel.



#31 Don_Humpador

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:19

Yeah, but it fits perfectly in the big picture.


Yes, maybe. But for now it's all rumour. Let's wait and see what the last 2 races bring.

#32 WhiteBlue

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:19

I wouldn't mind if Webber would decide to call it a day next year. Webber was inherited from the old Ford/Steward team and managed to become a thorn in their side. Red Bull should find a guy who fits the team.

#33 LoudHoward

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:22

Webber was inherited from the old Ford/Steward team


Lol what?


#34 chrisblades85

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:25

I wouldn't mind if Webber would decide to call it a day next year. Webber was inherited from the old Ford/Steward team and managed to become a thorn in their side. Red Bull should find a guy who fits the team.



What? :rotfl: :rotfl:



#35 SvenF1

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:25

You really should not pay any attention to anything MTV3 "reports". It's probably the worst media reporting F1, ever. Yeah, worse than the Spanish.

#36 RME

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:30

I wouldn't mind if Webber would decide to call it a day next year. Webber was inherited from the old Ford/Steward team and managed to become a thorn in their side. Red Bull should find a guy who fits the team.



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#37 korzeniow

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:32

You really should not pay any attention to anything MTV3 "reports". It's probably the worst media reporting F1, ever. Yeah, worse than the Spanish.


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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:32

You really should not pay any attention to anything MTV3 "reports". It's probably the worst media reporting F1, ever. Yeah, worse than the Spanish.


MTV3 just pointed to BBC (yeah, I read it myself). Then Beeb is perhaps even worster?

#39 Don_Humpador

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:33

MTV3 just pointed to BBC (yeah, I read it myself). Then Beeb is perhaps even worster?


Yes, the BBC is even worse because they were mentioning rumours that they heard.

Maybe we should blame the person they heard talking about it as a terrible source?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:35

You really should not pay any attention to anything MTV3 "reports". It's probably the worst media reporting F1, ever. Yeah, worse than the Spanish.


And what exactly did they do wrong? They said that the BBC said that there is a rumour.

Blame the OP, not MTV3.

:rolleyes:



#41 alfista

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:36

Yes, the BBC is even worse because they were mentioning rumours that they heard.

Maybe we should blame the person they heard talking about it as a terrible source?

Etc. Etc. Etc.


Like Murray said, anything can happen in F1 and usually does. Why not this? There's strong logic behind, isn't there?

#42 Don_Humpador

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:37

Like Murray said, anything can happen in F1 and usually does. Why not this? There's strong logic behind, isn't there?


Is there? According to who? This mysterious source?

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:38

I'm assuming you guys are talking about Webber winning the WDC, then having one more season and calling it quits, just like what Raikkonen did?

If so, what's so bad about that? The guy is pretty old. WDC or not he doesn't have much more than 2-3 seasons left in him, let alone 2-3 seasons left for him to fight for the WDC

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If you're talking about Webber retiring after winning the WDC this season, then I have no idea where you got the idea that Kimi Raikkonen did that. He stayed on for a whole 2 seasons after winning his WDC....

Edited by King Six, 05 November 2010 - 16:39.


#44 alfista

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:38

Is there? According to who? This mysterious source?


No, I mean all events in and around RBR since Turkey.
BTW,what about this: "But the latest rumour is that, actually, veteran Rubens Barrichello's position could be under threat." It's OT, but again from Beeb.

#45 iotar

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 16:42

I wouldn't mind if Webber would decide to call it a day next year. Webber was inherited from the old Ford/Steward team and managed to become a thorn in their side. Red Bull should find a guy who fits the team.

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 17:09

You really should not pay any attention to anything MTV3 "reports". It's probably the worst media reporting F1, ever. Yeah, worse than the Spanish.


Uff, that is something.
¿And even worse than the british?

#47 jeze

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 17:19

On Swedish television, there has been mentioned that Webber is set for Ferrari for 2011 :eek:

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 17:22

RED BULL is making a precedence that not many of us will welcome.


1. We want Kimi back on F1.
2. We want Webber to compete in 2011.

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#49 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 17:23

On Swedish television, there has been mentioned that Webber is set for Ferrari for 2011 :eek:

Surely the only reason he would leave/be kicked out of RBR is precisely the reason why he would not be a suitable replacement for Massa?

#50 jeze

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 17:33

Surely the only reason he would leave/be kicked out of RBR is precisely the reason why he would not be a suitable replacement for Massa?


That was my thoughts too: I don't think he'd manage Alonso being quicker, which I firmly expect he would be.