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#1 nomeg1

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 06:34

Looks like rain @ 90%
Chances that the qualies only happen Sunday ? Hope not ! :well:

Just a reminder : FP3 @ 14:00 and qualifying @ 17:00 CET

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#2 RC127

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 07:41

Just seen this tweet from Emlyn Hughes (radarguruF1) who does the Autosport LIVE section (along with Geoff Creighton)

radarguruf1 Emlyn Hughes
#F1 #Interlagos latest Saturday 04:05 SP: 6mm of rain so far tonight. Another huge storm due in the next hour or so. Temp 19c, humidity 88%


#3 phil1993

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 07:53

Remember a time when it'd be

'LOTS OF RAIN :D'

Rather than 'hope we get a session!'...

#4 RC127

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 08:41

Remember a time when it'd be

'LOTS OF RAIN :D'

Rather than 'hope we get a session!'...


I know, a sad indictment on modern F1. I mean, none of us want to see anyone injured, but how can we go from "we [the drivers] won't object to qualifying or racing at Fuji in 2007" to "we refuse to run if the track isn't ready for inters"?

I loved Lewis on the Korea race edit with his - genuinely irritated sounding - team radio "well what do they expect - IT'S WET!" outburst. Made me love him even more!

As many have remarked, Pirelli might as well save a few bob and not bother developing or manufacturing "full wets", "extreme wets" or "monsoon" tyres as it is clear we now follow a series which "doesn't do wet".

Edited by RC127, 06 November 2010 - 08:42.


#5 primer

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 08:45

It looks like the rain and storms will be over by the time qualifying starts. :)

#6 RC127

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 08:56

It looks like the rain and storms will be over by the time qualifying starts. :)


Source?

This goes against the last set of updates from Autosport live and Ian Fergusson

www.twitter.com/radarguruf1
www.twitter.com/fergieweather

Edited by RC127, 06 November 2010 - 09:00.


#7 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 09:01

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Huge puddles in Sao Paulo after downpour last night. Currently dry but grey skies threatening more rain. Question is - when?
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#8 Baddoer

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:09

So wet qualy. Massa could be on pole.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:10

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Huge puddles in Sao Paulo after downpour last night. Currently dry but grey skies threatening more rain. Question is - when?
1 minute ago


Last night we had a very minor thunderstorm @ São Paulo around 8PM. The asphalt has now dried and the morning is looking beautiful now at 8AM.

There are lots of grey clouds and someone could expect rain from them. I personally do not see it this way.

My forecast: the hot summer sun will drive away the clouds and we will see a dry qualifying. Repeat thunderstorms between 4-8PM in the afternoon, when the sun is already going down.

Edited by turssi, 06 November 2010 - 10:12.


#10 Button fanatic

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:14

Quali maybe on a drying track....maybe inters will do.......

#11 Don_Humpador

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:16

So wet qualy. Massa could be on pole.

:rotfl:

#12 Button fanatic

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:20

LOL.....Massa stands no chance if quali is wet or semi wet......

Edited by Button fanatic, 06 November 2010 - 10:21.


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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:25

So wet qualy. Massa could be on pole.


:rotfl: Massa... pole... wet. :lol:

#14 Button fanatic

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:27

:rotfl: Massa... pole... wet. :lol:


Massa and wet weather are in no harmony...Massa for me has a higher chance of winning the race on a dry Sunday than being on pole in wet during Qualifying...It is currently very cloudy at Sao Paulo and heavy rain is expected in the coming 2 hours or so........

Edited by Button fanatic, 06 November 2010 - 10:30.


#15 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:32

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It's not raining here in Sao Paulo this morning yet, but radar shows the bad weather is on the way
11 minutes ago

fergieweather
BRAZIL update: Front just west of Sao Paulo starting to look v developmental again on radar. Further heavy showers expected, some thundery.
5 minutes ago

#16 Gareth

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:32

Last night we had a very minor thunderstorm @ São Paulo around 8PM. The asphalt has now dried and the morning is looking beautiful now at 8AM.

There are lots of grey clouds and someone could expect rain from them. I personally do not see it this way.

My forecast: the hot summer sun will drive away the clouds and we will see a dry qualifying. Repeat thunderstorms between 4-8PM in the afternoon, when the sun is already going down.

Thanks for the update turssi :up:

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:38

Last night we had a very minor thunderstorm @ São Paulo around 8PM. The asphalt has now dried and the morning is looking beautiful now at 8AM.

There are lots of grey clouds and someone could expect rain from them. I personally do not see it this way.

My forecast: the hot summer sun will drive away the clouds and we will see a dry qualifying. Repeat thunderstorms between 4-8PM in the afternoon, when the sun is already going down.

Might as well hear it from the horse's mouth you guys ! Turssi is in Sao Paulo !
He lives there !

Edited by nomeg1, 06 November 2010 - 10:53.


#18 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:54

Might as well hear it from the horse's mouth you guys ! Turssi is in Sao Paulo !
He lives there !

Well it'll be interesting to see who turns out right here then: Turssi in Sao Paulo (dry) or the numerous F1 journalists (wet).

#19 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:57

And the F1 journalists win! :p

NobleF1
The rain has arrived. It is pouring down here in Sao Paulo
37 seconds ago

Edited by D.M.N., 06 November 2010 - 10:58.


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#20 Button fanatic

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:59

Might as well hear it from the horse's mouth you guys ! Turssi is in Sao Paulo !
He lives there !


He is a boy?

#21 SpeedyS

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:06

And the F1 journalists win! :p

NobleF1
The rain has arrived. It is pouring down here in Sao Paulo
37 seconds ago


Drizzling now at Interlagos...
6 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

All very confusing!

#22 nomeg1

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:09

He is a boy?

What's the question, and who cares ?
He/she is nice to let us know from being there and living there what it looks like, so no use asking "Merlin", the "Wizzard of Oz" or writing any "might-very-well-be-if" reports whilst we have a member there, living there...my God, some of you are writing only for writing, really !

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:12

Drizzling now at Interlagos...
6 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

All very confusing!


InsideFerrari Scuderia Ferrari
With less than two hours to FP3, it is raining lightly over the circuit


2-1 for drizzle :D.


#24 Crafty

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:12

several tweets now say its pouring in Sao Paulo

#25 Mastah

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:18

Yeah, it seems so:

http://www.der.sp.go...ias_online.aspx

Webcams 17, 20 and 12,5 are closest to the track.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:21

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#F1 radar latest 09:15 #Interlagos: Heavier showers building to the NW & expected to reach the circuit before 10:00. Temp 20c.
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#27 kosmos

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:35

Let's hope the rain don't delay the qualifying session like the last year.

#28 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 11:58

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Been to look at F3 cars on track. I can identify where they are by the plumes of spray. It's raining, track is wet & there have been spins
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FP3 starts in 1 hour.

#29 WhiteBlue

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:04

It doesn't look like the rain is very heavy on the web cams.

#30 turssi

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:05

Thanks for the update turssi :up:


Well, I was wrong: light rain started one hour ago. And if it starts in the morning it probably will not stop.

So new weather forecast for today: light rain for the qualifying session.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:11

anyone have a link they can PM me? all mine are down. bbc would be great but beggars cant be choosers

edit: ok I see im an hr early. daaaamn

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#32 ManiaMuse

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:33

Well, I was wrong: light rain started one hour ago. And if it starts in the morning it probably will not stop.

So new weather forecast for today: light rain for the qualifying session.

Best kind of rain for modern F1 qualifying it seems.

Sunday looks fairly likely to be dry so wonder if any teams/drivers will gamble on a wet setup for qualifying to bump them further up the grid than usual?

Could be an option for Button? Or maybe even Massa if Ferrari want to gamble on getting Massa ahead of the Red Bulls on the grid to try and hold them up in the race?

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:37

Best kind of rain for modern F1 qualifying it seems.

Sunday looks fairly likely to be dry so wonder if any teams/drivers will gamble on a wet setup for qualifying to bump them further up the grid than usual?

Could be an option for Button? Or maybe even Massa if Ferrari want to gamble on getting Massa ahead of the Red Bulls on the grid to try and hold them up in the race?


Now that is an interesting thought.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:40

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RT @clubforce: It's raining heavily now - and predicted to carry on throughout the day. It will ease in intensity but the clouds will remain
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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:47

Best kind of rain for modern F1 qualifying it seems.

Sunday looks fairly likely to be dry so wonder if any teams/drivers will gamble on a wet setup for qualifying to bump them further up the grid than usual?

Could be an option for Button? Or maybe even Massa if Ferrari want to gamble on getting Massa ahead of the Red Bulls on the grid to try and hold them up in the race?


If the teams' forecast is for anything less that about a 20% chance of rain for the race, I can't see any of the front runners gambling on a wet setup. It is just too much of a compromise if the race is dry. At 20% or more then, yes Button could well make that decision.

Edited by Dunder, 06 November 2010 - 12:48.


#36 ManiaMuse

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:55

^ I guess so. Though it is near the end of the season and some of the midfield teams are still looking for decent results for the WCC and getting sponsors for next year.

Maybe Williams or FI will gamble on a full wet setup? A Barrichello pole would be pretty cool in front of his home crowd and Williams are in pretty dire need of sponsors.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:56

Great atmosphere - you can really hear the party vibe..

#38 RC127

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:56

Ant says track could probably handles inters right now...

#39 Dunder

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:57

Damp track and light rain.
Intermediate tyre territory. 4 sets of inters for the whole weekend remember.

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#40 RC127

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 12:58

Let's hope Alonso and Vettel have harmless (to them) but damaging (to the cars) - shunts - to rule them out of qualy. :evil:

Edited by RC127, 06 November 2010 - 13:00.


#41 WhiteBlue

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:06

The early installation laps are all done on full wets.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:07

Can someone be kind enough to PM a link? Thank You

#43 Dunder

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:08

I don't think we will see too much running.
Tyre preservation is too important if conditions are expected to be like this for qualifying.

#44 RC127

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:09

Lewis contemplating a wet setup to get track position today?!!!! :eek:

Surely he will get mugged in the race tomorrow - I could understand Jenson trying this, but not Lewis!!!

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:10

Installation laps: Felipe on intermediates and Fernando on extreme wets.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:10

I only caught the second half of what Ted was saying there, lewis going for a complete wet set up was that?

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:11

Any live streaming for FP3? Please PM me.

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#48 Ali_G

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:11

Lewis contemplating a wet setup to get track position today?!!!! :eek:

Surely he will get mugged in the race tomorrow - I could understand Jenson trying this, but not Lewis!!!


What if the race is wet ?

He'd run away with it.

Edited by Ali_G, 06 November 2010 - 13:11.


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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:11

Lewis contemplating a wet setup to get track position today?!!!! :eek:

Surely he will get mugged in the race tomorrow - I could understand Jenson trying this, but not Lewis!!!

the difference between full wet and full dry setup is not that big anymore, I remember some engineer mentioning half a second.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 13:11

I don't think we will see too much running.
Tyre preservation is too important if conditions are expected to be like this for qualifying.

I don't think so. The race is supposed to be dry so they need to explore the track for the wet qualifying later today. Heidfeld and Glock are out there and Schumacher is going to go out soon.

Edited by WhiteBlue, 06 November 2010 - 13:13.