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#1 f1fastestlap

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 15:15

"We would like to take an aggressive approach," he told AUTOSPORT in an exclusive interview. "Certainly when we have been working with GP2 and F1, they have said they would like us to take an aggressive approach.

"It would be better from a tyre maker's point of view to take a conservative approach, so people then do not talk about the drop off of the tyres. But from a sporting perspective, and for the show, we probably want both these tyre choices to have decay because what happens at the moment is that you have one aggressive choice and one stable choice, which means everyone ends up with the same strategy."

"But the drivers and some of the team members would have to buy into that, because there is no point in doing it if the driver just comes out and says the tyres are rubbish - because then we will just go back and give them a tyre that is the same for 50 laps, which we can do."

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/87984

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#2 MrAerodynamicist

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 15:21

If it means we effectively get a tyre-war tyre without the tyre-war, I'm all for it.

#3 Dunder

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 15:25

:up: :up:

Two, provisional, thumbs up for Pirelli.
They only get the full three thumbs up when we actually see tyres that are more prone to degradation.

#4 f1fastestlap

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 15:55

Well, they say it's in the hands of the teams if they want tyres to last an entire race or not...
Hope this stops the BS talk about safety...

#5 Sausage

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 19:07

Well I hope they aren't too naive. If a driver loses a race or retires due to tires he will always blame it even if all drivers and team "want it". I think they take the good attitude though by unleashing this discussion and stating their intent very upfront.

#6 Alx09

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 21:25

Nice approach Pirelli :up: :up:

#7 OwenC93

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 21:32

Drivers shouldn't moan about the tyres since everyone will have the same problems. It will probably be "the car didn't look after the tyres too well" situation.

#8 KavB

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 21:40

Great attitude from Pirelli. Hopefully the drivers and teams take that on board!

#9 ivanalesi

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 00:09

Well, I don't think it's reasonable from Pirelli to expect the drivers to keep their mouths shut when the tires don't suit their driving style. They've never done it during their whole careers and I doubt they will do it next year.
They have to educate the media about their approach, that F1 is a sports show and they have to provide a tire that brings the best from the drivers and the best show possible.
Every year the tires don't suit some drivers, now Massa, Schumacher and Liuzzi are quite vocal about it and they have every right to speak their minds. I think that the tire balance should be always oversteery. It's better for overtaking because it's easier to get a bad exit and easier to have so much mechanical grip when you're following someone. Then of course you can teach any driver to deal with u/s, but it's all down to their talent to deal with o/s and it's a lot more exciting to watch.

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 00:14

Surprised by the "continue to develop the tyre through 2011" comment.

#11 mtknot

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 01:08

I hope this means that the cars will have more mechanical grip next year, to offset the fact that the cars will be almost GP2-level in terms of how much downforce they'll produce with the massive reduction in underbody aero through the single stage diffuser.

#12 Mastah

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 01:24

What? Sam Michael said recently that by the start of first GP teams should regain lost downforce. Lotus also said couple races ago their 2011 car already had 25% more downforce than T127 and that is the gap to Toro Rosso/Force India this season.


#13 arknor

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 02:36

What? Sam Michael said recently that by the start of first GP teams should regain lost downforce. Lotus also said couple races ago their 2011 car already had 25% more downforce than T127 and that is the gap to Toro Rosso/Force India this season.

back/mid field teams dont lose as much downforce though because they never had it.

RB , MCL and FER wont get anywhere near the downforce they have this season because there just isnt anywhere to make it up where as the rear end teams dont have much to begin with because they are pretty much made out of boxes that fit inside the alowed dimension by the fia

#14 Dunder

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 02:43

back/mid field teams dont lose as much downforce though because they never had it.

RB , MCL and FER wont get anywhere near the downforce they have this season because there just isnt anywhere to make it up where as the rear end teams dont have much to begin with because they are pretty much made out of boxes that fit inside the alowed dimension by the fia


Every time there has been a regulation change designed to reduce downforce the result has been MORE downforce.

There is no question that taking away the second stage will have an impact but there is little doubt either that the teams will find ways to recover it despite what appear to be restrictive regulations.