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#1 Buttoneer

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:46

1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso

Red Bull officially WCC

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#2 Ricardo F1

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

There should be penalties all round for the drivers who held up Webber, Alonso and Hamilton after the safety car. Massa was the ONLY guy who seemingly didn't, kudos to him.

Great drives from the top guys, Vettel looked in control all the way. Next week will be a barnstormer!

#3 Disgrace

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

Meh.

#4 Francesc

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso

Red Bull officially WCC


And officially the stupiest team in F1 history.

#5 pinkypants

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

webber, acting like an idiot on the podium.

#6 korzeniow

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

Isn't "Race Day' thread adequate to this disscussion too? Afterall it's race day

#7 PoLLiN46

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

Vettle :up:
Webber :up:
Alonso :up: :up: :up:
Ham :down:

RBR :down: :down: :down: :down:

Edited by PoLLiN46, 07 November 2010 - 17:50.


#8 Sammyosammy

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:48

One word: "Sportmanship". Sorry guys, don´t know italian or spanish well enough to translate.. :wave:

Edited by Sammyosammy, 07 November 2010 - 17:49.


#9 meddo

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

And officially the stupiest team in F1 history.

That.

#10 P123

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

And officially the stupiest team in F1 history.


There is still one race left!

Congrats anyway to Red Bull- a brilliant car that deserves the WCC.

#11 MrAerodynamicist

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

Red Bull officially WCC

Actually, officially they're not until some time after the final race. They're only mathematically WCC :p

Rubbish race.

#12 brandnizzle

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

The finishing positions make an interesting final. What are the permutations now for the 4 remaining championship contenders to win the WDC?

#13 VicR

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

What has the world come to if the general view is that Red Bull Racing are stupid by not using team orders?

They play fair and somehow that's not the way it should be? :confused:

Red Bull Racing :up:

#14 Alx09

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

Overall boring race. Hulkenberg ruined the race instead of making it interesting since he first separated the RedBulls from the rest, and then separated Alonso from Hamilton.

RedBull prefers no champion rather than Webber as champion, that is clear.


Backmarkers did a terrible job letting people past. Absolutely terrible. Massa even passed Rosberg even though he was one lap behind.

Edited by Alx09, 07 November 2010 - 17:52.


#15 bauss

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

the pace of the front guys is ridiculous, those guys were faster on old tires than the Mclaren boys on new tires....

RedBull very capable of a 1-2 in Abu Dhabi... then if necc. they will switch the top 2 drivers. So its still dodgy for Alonso...


Hamilton had a so-so race but somehow hangs in there....it will be ridiculously funny if something crazy happens next week n he wins the WDC.

Congrats to RedBull for the WCC, the car deserves it I guess


#16 krapmeister

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

There should be penalties all round for the drivers who held up Webber, Alonso and Hamilton after the safety car. Massa was the ONLY guy who seemingly didn't, kudos to him.

Great drives from the top guys, Vettel looked in control all the way. Next week will be a barnstormer!


The backmarkers were terrible today.

#17 Anonymous

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

I will write this again.

Red Bull is the dumbest team in the history of F1.

#18 Hole

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:49

Yes, the front wing issue was very sportmanship. And I didnt see Kimi's fan complaining about lack of sportmanship when Massa gave his position to Kimi ;)


That's named "hypocrisy" ;)

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Nice race for Alonso, and Jaime that once again beat his team mate.

Edited by AdamKOR, 07 November 2010 - 17:50.


#19 bauss

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:50

indeed those backmarkers were ridiculous, idiots

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#20 JackTorrance

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

I will write this again.

Red Bull is the dumbest team in the history of F1.


You should do a rerun of the 2007 season

#21 jondon

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

What were those trophies? Bullet proof glass?

#22 P123

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

What has the world come to if the general view is that Red Bull Racing are stupid by not using team orders?

They play fair and somehow that's not the way it should be? :confused:

Red Bull Racing :up:


Indeed, but as I've already said in the other topic, should the positions be the same in the final race I have no doubt they will switch Vettel and Webber.

#23 giddyup409

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

hulk saved red bull's ass

#24 chrisblades85

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

I will write this again.

Red Bull is the dumbest team in the history of F1.


Yeah, sure they are. :rolleyes:

Edited by chrisblades85, 07 November 2010 - 17:51.


#25 flyer121

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

And officially the stupiest team in F1 history.


That .. Or a refreshing change from stinking Fiaaaaarrri :)

#26 seahawk

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:51

And officially the stupiest team in F1 history.


They still have the team order option for the last race, if they are on No.1 + No.2 and Alosno is third or fourth. Better then, than today, just in case Alonso´s engine blows in the last race and Vettel wins it.

#27 f1fastestlap

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

Backmarkers were terrible, they should get rid of this stupid rule that prevents them to unlap the SC

#28 blackonyx4

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

There should be penalties all round for the drivers who held up Webber, Alonso and Hamilton after the safety car. Massa was the ONLY guy who seemingly didn't, kudos to him.

Great drives from the top guys, Vettel looked in control all the way. Next week will be a barnstormer!


While Rosberg was waiting for someone up front to make a room to pass by, there comes Massa and overtakes him...under blue flags, of course! :lol:

#29 Shadow Mike

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

Indeed, but as I've already said in the other topic, should the positions be the same in the final race I have no doubt they will switch Vettel and Webber.


If Alonso comes the 3rd, he will still be crowned by 1 point.

#30 iotar

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

Hulkenberg killed the race when he held Alonso with RBs cruising into a distance.
I wonder why he couldn't find extra second per lap like yesterday?
Then safety car with lapped cars - Webber unable to put pressure on Vettel. I wonder what happened to Webber's engine? Whatever it was it magically disappeared three laps from the finish.

#31 RiDE

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

Overall boring race. Hulkenberg ruined the race instead of making it interesting since he first separated the RedBulls from the rest, and then separated Alonso from Hamilton.


Hulkenberg was fighting for position... unlike the backmarkers after the safety car period. :down:

#32 Bonaventura

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

indeed those backmarkers were ridiculous, idiots

Incredible.. they cost Lewis 17s
The advantage from the fresh tyres was gone.

#33 guitarhero

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

One word: "Sportmanship". Sorry guys, don´t know italian or spanish well enough to translate.. :wave:


I think the word you're looking for is "deportividad".
I can't wait to see the liters of bile spitted after Alonso wins the WDC.

#34 VicR

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

Indeed, but as I've already said in the other topic, should the positions be the same in the final race I have no doubt they will switch Vettel and Webber.


Until the last lap no one can predict the final result. Alonso might retire on the last lap. No one knows. That's why you have to play fair.

#35 Hole

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:52

You should do a rerun of the 2007 season


Yes, in that case I didnt see anyone saying the same than now despite being the same situation. And again, Hamiltonites and Kimi's fans showing hypocrisy.

#36 P123

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:53

They still have the team order option for the last race, if they are on No.1 + No.2 and Alosno is third or fourth. Better then, than today, just in case Alonso´s engine blows in the last race and Vettel wins it.


Yeah, they took the correct decision. Two fully motivated drivers into the final race.

#37 ForzaGTR

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:53

I can't believe how dumb Red bull are. I actually hope Alonso wins it now just to punish Red Bull.

Edited by Olly F1, 07 November 2010 - 17:53.


#38 stillOrange

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:53

RBR :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: for winning the WCC
RBR :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: for not calling team orders which are illegal and IMO against the sports spirit

Vettel :up: :up:
Webber :up: :up:


#39 harrys

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:54

Red Bull are idiots.

The decision not to implement team orders will probably cost them the WDC.

Can anyone honestly say that if the positions had been reversed (I.e. Webber leading the race, Vettel ahead in the championship), team orders would not have come into play?

2nd place in abu dhabi wins alonso the title now.
Fernando will be delighted.

Edited by harrys, 07 November 2010 - 17:55.


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#40 ImDDAA

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:54

What has the world come to if the general view is that Red Bull Racing are stupid by not using team orders?

They play fair and somehow that's not the way it should be? :confused:

Red Bull Racing :up:


I agree essentially - the only time I'd expect Vettel to pull over is if he was directly blocking his team mate from winning the title with no shot at it himself. If Vettel had swapped today you'd have just as many people bitching about it, probably some of the same people criticising Red Bull for being stupid.

#41 Bonaventura

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:54

If Alonso comes the 3rd, he will still be crowned by 1 point.

RBR now must hope that Lewis gets in front of Alonso in Abu Dhabi

#42 Anonymous

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:54

You should do a rerun of the 2007 season


Not even close, you troll.

#43 Sammyosammy

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:54

I think the word you're looking for is "deportividad".
I can't wait to see the liters of bile spitted after Alonso wins the WDC.



easy peple around :rotfl:

#44 Shadow Mike

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:54

Yes, in that case I didnt see anyone saying the same than now despite being the same situation. And again, Hamiltonites and Kimi's fans showing hypocrisy.


Elaborate please?

Kimi wasn't handed his win in Brazil '07 by Massa, while I can hardly recall any assist to Hamilton by his teammates.

#45 DracoN

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:55

What were those trophies? Bullet proof glass?

used condoms

#46 VicR

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:55

Mark and Seb looking at Alonso right now thinking "what a pathetic muppet". :rotfl:

#47 meddo

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:55

RBR now must hope that Lewis gets in front of Alonso in Abu Dhabi

No, they must hope that Lewis takes Alonso out, and Jenson take Webber. Then it¨s all happy Didi and Marko land.

#48 blackonyx4

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:55

Elaborate please?

Kimi wasn't handed his win in Brazil '07 by Massa, while I can hardly recall any assist to Hamilton by his teammates.



Man, you should seriously re-watch that race...

#49 Shadow Mike

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:55

RBR now must hope that Lewis gets in front of Alonso in Abu Dhabi


Or an Alonso's engine comes into business.

#50 VresiBerba

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 17:55

I will write this again.

Red Bull is the dumbest team in the history of F1.

I have always hated team-orders when both drivers still are in contention and if Webber should win the title, he should do so on his own, especially since Vettel still can, as well. * Red Bull :up: * Oh hang on, Turkey :rolleyes:

* Edit

Edited by VresiBerba, 07 November 2010 - 17:57.