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Schumacher - Is it unfair to win a race in which you are clearly quicker? I'm not sure you can call it unfair.


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#1 TheManAlive

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 08:51

Interesting quote from Schumacher on autosport today.

"Is it unfair to win a race in which you are clearly quicker? I'm not sure you can call it unfair."

I guess he has changed his mind since a certain race in Austria! Glad to see, though, that he is really enjoying the championship fight.

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#2 Augurk

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:03

There's enough bashing in the Schumacher thread to make this on-topic in there. Hopefully a mod will either close this one or merge.

#3 TheManAlive

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:14

Terribly sorry. Was not a Schumacher bash. Just thought I would comment on a recent article in autosport. I will make sure that in future I conduct the necessary research to identify just which thread I must put comments in rather than create a new thread.

#4 Infinityl

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 09:54

Interesting quote from Schumacher on autosport today.

"Is it unfair to win a race in which you are clearly quicker? I'm not sure you can call it unfair."

I guess he has changed his mind since a certain race in Austria! Glad to see, though, that he is really enjoying the championship fight.


I think he is only talking about Fernando&Massa. In Austria 2002 he wasnt quicker than Barrichello.

Michael Schumacher:

"I take no joy from this victory. I enjoyed the race but not the last hundred metres. It was a team decision. Only at the end I was called on the radio and told Rubens would move over. I know the decision is not popular, but imagine if we had lost the championship by this number of points at the end of the season. The team would look stupid in that situation. Rubens did a superb job and he outpaced me all weekend. This is a challenging situation having him pushing me. I am sure he will win races this year. If the team had taken this decision in the last race with the title still open nobody would be saying anything about today’s events."


There is a huge difference between Austria 2002 and Germany 2010, in Germany, like MS said, won the quickest driver.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:28

I think he is only talking about Fernando&Massa. In Austria 2002 he wasnt quicker than Barrichello.

Michael Schumacher:

There is a huge difference between Austria 2002 and Germany 2010, in Germany, like MS said, won the quickest driver.



Call him whatever u want, but u can't call him a hypocrite! As he showed in Brazil, he is willing to be on the other end of these plays as well as benefitting from them.

#6 iotar

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:35

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#7 keeppushingurep1

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:47

he is saying that the quicker should win, so in germany happened the right thing, and probably that wont happen in abu dhabi where vet will have to slow down



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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:48

Terribly sorry. Was not a Schumacher bash. Just thought I would comment on a recent article in autosport. I will make sure that in future I conduct the necessary research to identify just which thread I must put comments in rather than create a new thread.

That would all be very well if you actually provided a bit more to put his comments into their proper context.

The story. You can see there that he actually said;

"It depends what you see as fair or unfair," said Schumacher when asked if he thought Vettel would do the 'fair' thing. "Is it unfair to win a race in which you are clearly quicker? I'm not sure you can call it unfair.

"The main point is we will all be very excited to see what's going to happen, even from my perspective, because I don't know what's going through his [Vettel's] mind."

He added: "Whatever teams are doing they have different interpretations of how they want to deal with things. I made a very clear statement in Hockenheim, and I've no reason to change it."

My emphasis.

No hypocrisy, just a sensible and honest opinion.

#9 Alexis*27

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:53

Winning races isn't about being quickest, it's about who crosses the line first.

Otherwise everyone would go home after qualifying.

#10 arknor

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 11:09

Winning races isn't about being quickest, it's about who crosses the line first.

Otherwise everyone would go home after qualifying.

... hes not talking about qualifying hes talking about vettel beeing quickest in the race and if its really wrong for vettel to win the race if he is the quickest out of the 2 red bulls

#11 aditya-now

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 11:19

Interesting quote from Schumacher on autosport today.

"Is it unfair to win a race in which you are clearly quicker? I'm not sure you can call it unfair."

I guess he has changed his mind since a certain race in Austria! Glad to see, though, that he is really enjoying the championship fight.


This really endears Schumacher to me. Fair is fair. Alonso was quicker than Massa in Germany 2010, so he is absolutely right, and Michael said so right after the race in Hockenheim.
Austria 2001/2002 was an experience Michael himself did not enjoy, it was clearly wrong to rob Rubens, as he was not slower than Michael. In his heart of hearts Michael knows that.


#12 Augurk

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 12:30

Terribly sorry. Was not a Schumacher bash. Just thought I would comment on a recent article in autosport. I will make sure that in future I conduct the necessary research to identify just which thread I must put comments in rather than create a new thread.

Didn't expect such an appropriate response. Forgive my agressiveness.

On topic. I think Schumacher expresses a balanced view that is in line with his comments back in Austria 2002 and Germany this year. Other than that he has shown many times that he can be as generous at the giving end as he was thankful on the receiving end. Other than supporting Nico in Brazil, Eddie in Malaysia, he has also gifted several victories to Rubens. USA GP most notably, but there were also several races where he was clearly the quickest and allowed Rubens to take home the victory. I think statistically he has more than made up for any taken wins.

I have read about Austria 2002 specifically in a biography about Schumacher. There's some interesting comments by Todt in there. Apparently Rubens was asked a couple laps prior to the finish to move over and what followed was a discussion over the team radio. It was Rubens' decision to do it in the final meters. Michael didn't want to take first, but was confronted with it at the final hundred meters. I believe it was the sole decision of Jean Todt at the time, making noone in the team particularly happy.