And who was it before?
A top-10 list?
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Edited by HistoryFan, 14 November 2010 - 16:36.
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Without doing any checking I'd have thought Colin Chapman was younger in '63 than Horner is now...
Posted 14 November 2010 - 17:21
Edited by 2F-001, 14 November 2010 - 17:26.
Posted 14 November 2010 - 17:22
28. Chunky was 35 when Jimmy won in '63. But can we really count Luca as team principal when Enzo was still alive?How old was Luca when Lauda won?
Edited by Vitesse2, 14 November 2010 - 17:22.
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Posted 14 November 2010 - 17:37
Vettel is the youngest World Champion in history in F1, but isn't Horner also the youngest team principal who get World Champion?
And who was it before?
A top-10 list?
Posted 14 November 2010 - 17:38
Does anyone care?
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Posted 14 November 2010 - 21:27
Does anyone care?
Posted 15 November 2010 - 12:59
Does anyone care?
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 17:20
Would it not be 39 in 1974 for Mayer?... Teddy Mayer at 41 in 1976 ...
Posted 15 November 2010 - 17:26
Posted 15 November 2010 - 17:34
According to Wikipedia anyway. Birthday tomorrow, as it happens. Although I'm sure Ted Kravitz said on Friday during one of the FP sessions that it was today and that he was going to be 39 ...Christian Horner is 37?
Edited by Vitesse2, 15 November 2010 - 17:37.
Posted 15 November 2010 - 17:46
Would it not be 39 in 1974 for Mayer?
Posted 15 November 2010 - 17:47
According to Wikipedia anyway. Birthday tomorrow, as it happens. Although I'm sure Ted Kravitz said on Friday during one of the FP sessions that it was today and that he was going to be 39 ...
Posted 15 November 2010 - 17:51
This tallies with ReWind's comprehensive birthday listings (see here or here) so he was still 36 when his team won the championships (unless, as Formula Once says, he might possibly be lying ).Birthday tomorrow, as it happens.
Edited by Tim Murray, 15 November 2010 - 18:00.
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 18:13
Well, if he has manipulated his birth date, he did it at least six years ago - I've found a report by Kevin Garside in the Daily Telegraph from September 2004: "Christian Horner, 30".
Posted 15 November 2010 - 18:15
Not to ,mention Romolo Tavoni 32 in 1956 (and 34 in 1958), John Cooper 36 in 1959 (and 37 in 1960), Eraldo Sculati 38 in 1956 and Tony Rudd 39 in 1962. Just to keep it to the under 40s (and including some pre-Constructors' Championship years)Back on topic, Red Bull Racing is obviously owned by Mr. Mateschitz and Horner basically runs it. In that role, younger people have managed teams to the F1 world (drivers) title, most notably di Montezemolo at 28 (in 1975). I guess that after Colin Chapman at 35 in 1963, the youngest team owners to have won the world championship must have been Ron Dennis at 37,in 1984, then Frank Williams at 38 in 1980, Jack Brabham at 40 in 1966, Teddy Mayer at 41 in 1976, Briatore at 44 in 1994, Ken Tyrrell at 45 in 1969, Bernie at 51 in 1981.
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So, depending on the meaning of "Team Principle", Luca is the youngest yet? Wouldn't Sir Frank count starting out in 1969? He would have been what, 27?
Posted 15 November 2010 - 23:09
But this is about the youngest having won a world title.
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...the term 'team principal' ...
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 12:57
...but not to manage the driver and mechanics (sorry, engineers)?... you need someone to run the corporate entity. Sponsorship, media, all the bits that come before and after the race cars being unleashed.
Posted 16 November 2010 - 13:05
And I am pretty fed-up with the mechanics being referred to as engineers.Am about as keen on the term 'team principal' as I am on GP driver's engineers' offering gratuitous advice to their man on pit/car radio.Mind you as I have read elsewhere the words'Fernando , Petrov is quicker than you ' would not have been out of place this last weekend...
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And I am pretty fed-up with the mechanics being referred to as engineers.
Posted 16 November 2010 - 14:23
Posted 16 November 2010 - 14:57
I know that in US-speak "engineer" is a man who drove a train, but in England we prefer it to mean someone with formal qualifications as an engineer.The guys you hear on the radios actually are the engineers. They aren't mechanics.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 16:25
Admittedly Nigel Stepney, who was a mechanic, is sometimes referred to by the news media, who don't know any better, as an "ex-Ferrari Engineer". However, the guys whose job title in a GP team is "race engineer" have degrees in engineering, often to Masters or PhD level.I know that in US-speak "engineer" is a man who drove a train, but in England we prefer it to mean someone with formal qualifications as an engineer.
There seems to be a position called "(somebody)'s race engineer" but we don't hear much about what qualifications they have that entitles them to that description.
There was someone called Nigel Stepney who is often referred to as "ex-Ferrari Engineer", but whose formal training was as a mechanic.
Edited by Kpy, 16 November 2010 - 16:25.
Posted 16 November 2010 - 17:41
Thanks for that clarification: I know little of what goes on now, having been pretty well put off it years ago so what I hear the commentators say and what is reported in such newspapers as I buy is not subject to any filter, so to speak.Admittedly Nigel Stepney, who was a mechanic, is sometimes referred to by the news media, who don't know any better, as an "ex-Ferrari Engineer". However, the guys whose job title in a GP team is "race engineer" have degrees in engineering, often to Masters or PhD level.
Rob Smedley, for instance, has a Masters degree in Mathematics and Mechanical Engineering, and has a long CV in motorsport engineering.
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Errmm- don't think that ACBC felt he was answerable to anybody actually , let alone the sponsor's dollar.And the same could be said of most of the names you quote from pre corporate (ughh) Eff one. And in answer to your first question- yes- quite a lot.Is a team principle anything more than the dude on the pit crew nominated to talk to the press and wear crocodile skin boots to unimportant meetings where not very much of consequence gets decided who's major function is to find excuses for not winning and reporting his 'findings' to the boss every Monday morning ?
From what I gather employees like Stanley, 70's di Montezolo, Briatore and naughties era Todt were very much on a lower rung of a chain of corporate command to the likes of Cooper, Chapman, Brabham, Tyrrell, Mayer, little Bernie, Williams, Dennis and even 2009 era Mr Brawn who were pretty much running benevolent dictatorships and answerable to no one apart from the sponsors dollar.
Either way Congrats and Happy Birthday Christian !
I wonder if he is up for the Red Bull employee of the month award having played a part in winning his team two world titles ?