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#51 Gary C

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 21:54

what a sad way to end up.

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#52 UAtkins

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Posted 30 July 2002 - 23:15

Doug,

Thanks so much for that story, I wondered what had happened to him, that is very sad to know. I was so thrilled when I found that letter. I am still going through Mum's things and am sure I will find other items of a similar nature. Life was so different then wasn't it.

Dad was also close friends with another writer, Dennis May, I quoted some of his article about Dad earlier (written in 1952) and Milan Fistonic has sent me articles written about Dad's cars by Dennis, I wish I could find more, I like his writing style....it's a lot like another popular writer we all know!

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#53 Doug Nye

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Posted 06 August 2002 - 09:03

Jack Brabham bought Tommy's Chessington garage from him and made it home to Jack Brabham Conversions, doing indecent things to Sunbeam Rapiers, Triumph Heralds, Hillman Imps etc. He vividly recalls driving one of his Brabham-modified Heralds with 1300cc Climax engine installed, en route to Silverstone one day. Just the other side of Amersham there's a long very fast stretch of country road, and just after leaving Amersham he'd spotted a distant MGB in his rearview mirror. The MGB slowly reeled him in and they started running faster and faster. On one really long straight the MGB just about clawed its way up alongside the Herald, both doing about 100-105mph. As the MGB drew abreast, Jack glanced across at it, and its driver glanced across at him...

The MGB driver was clearly shattered by this humble Herald that was almost as quick as his plainly tweaky MGB. Then Tommy Atkins, driving the MGB, and Jack Brabham, driving the Herald, recognised each other. "Tommy nearly went off the road in shock!", Jack recalls.

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#54 rmhorton

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Posted 06 August 2002 - 10:28

Hmmm,, how times change! If they tried this today they would have been 'busted' by about five different speed cameras and would have needed 'Chauffeurs' for the next six months.

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#55 UAtkins

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Posted 06 August 2002 - 15:40

Doug,

Once again thanks for the memories...I remember "exercizing" the same MGB on the frozen water meadows down by the River Wey in Guildford one winter evening with Dad...what a blast. Also a memorable drive down to Goodwood with him in the E-Type (fastest I've ever been)....I know it's where I get my love of driving from. :up:

Speaking of different times, I also remember riding with Roy Salvadori testing one of Dad's cars through the streets of Chessington on a Sunday afternoon, a common occurrence then, but sadly (or perhaps wisely) one that wouldn't happen now!

Thanks again.

Ursula

#56 Doug Nye

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Posted 06 August 2002 - 17:51

Ursula - the frozen water meadows of not forgotten youth! They haven't frozen for years now. Climate change is really marked. I remember skating on them - were you and your dad the buggers who nearly ran me over?! :o

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Posted 06 August 2002 - 18:42

Doug,

Highly likely...we weren't the only ones out there if I recall we left in the confusion when a police car arrived ;) We used to skate out there all the time too I didn't realise it no longer froze over.

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#58 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 11:12

:cat: What colour was the Atkins/HEM transporter ( Austin Loadmaster ?) and what were their vans and transporters (if not the Austin) ????????????????????????? regards Bjørn

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 10:45

How TNF sends us off on a tangent, to see a couple of hours disappear.

I went off trying to establish whether the Atkins/McLaren T62 Cooper-Climax was built in one of Cooper's factories or one of Atkins. I suspect that Cooper's Hollyfield Road address is probably the answer, but not sure.

When the car went to press in Autosport Oct 5th, 1962 it definitely shows it sitting at the front of Hollyfield Road. But could it have been built at Langley Rd? Or even at an Atkins address? The only address I'm aware of for Tommy Atkins, was his Hook Rd, Chessington, High Efficiency Motors address. This went on (as revealed by DCN in this old thread) to become the business address for Jack Brabham (Motors) Ltd. Being officially opened by one of his then bosses, John Cooper on October 1st, 1959. When Jack took on, or over, as main dealers for Standard - Triumph and Humber, Hillman & Sunbeam. And the odd Climax-engined Q car. So Tommy was out of that address some 3 years before the T62 comes into the equation. Or did he have another address that had facilities to knock out an Intercontinental Cooper?

Thanks for any revelations.
Stephen






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#60 David McKinney

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 11:02

The car was built by Atkins mechanics Harry Pearce and Wally Willmott at an Atkins site (address unknown, but someone will know)

McLaren himself, being a contracted Cooper driver, was obliged to run it in works colours, though it was entered in the NZ and Australian internationals in his own name

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 11:47

Thanks David. Interestingly in the Cyril Posthumus letter Ursula typed up at the top of this page, Cyril mentions Hook Rd. As far as I'm aware the Jack Brabham (Motors) Ltd was based at 248 Hook Rd, Chessington. So maybe Tommy Atkins retained a bit of space or access to facilities after Brabham tookover.

If anyone can add anything further on where the T62 was built please let us know.

Stephen

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:52

I have a question about the Atkins Coopers in 1959.

At Monaco the Maserati engined car of Roy Salvadori was dark green with what I assume to be a white panel on the front of the car - imagine the works Cooper colours with the bit between the white stripes filled in. This can clearly be seen in photographs taken at that race.

Meanwhile, Atkins' F.2 car had an odd design of white on the nose section.

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However, I've just noticed that when Salvadori drove the F.1 car at Sebring at the end of the season it carried the colour scheme that the F.2 car had early on.

I'm wondering at what point in 1959 did the F.1 car get the F.2 car's livery - or am I actually talking about the same set of bodywork?

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:57

Quite possible the F2 car was re-engined for Sebring (I haven't checked)

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:51

I have a question about the Atkins Coopers in 1959.

At Monaco the Maserati engined car of Roy Salvadori was dark green with what I assume to be a white panel on the front of the car - imagine the works Cooper colours with the bit between the white stripes filled in. This can clearly be seen in photographs taken at that race.

Meanwhile, Atkins' F.2 car had an odd design of white on the nose section.

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However, I've just noticed that when Salvadori drove the F.1 car at Sebring at the end of the season it carried the colour scheme that the F.2 car had early on.

I'm wondering at what point in 1959 did the F.1 car get the F.2 car's livery - or am I actually talking about the same set of bodywork?


At the british GP, driven by Fairman, the car had what you call the F2 livery.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 15:21

The afore-mentioned Wally Willmot ..Revival this year
Had a good chat with him............

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#66 bradbury west

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 21:54

Perhaps someone can forward this link to Ursula; a shot of C T Atkins on a Douglas in 1930. Scroll down the page for good images.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item41717eb54e

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#67 David McKinney

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 22:51

My Father has F2-26-57 a formula 2 Cooper that was entered by High Efficiency Motors for 4 sesons of Formula 2 racing and a few Grand Prix.We were trying to research the history of the car on Atlas F1 a few weeks ago and were looking for people that may have information on the car. The car is still 100% original bearing everything that it did in the day. My Father ocasionally races the car at events like Coys at Silverstone. Perhaps if you contact my father you could give him Harry Pearce's address so that we can ask him relative questions about the car.

I know this pot is now 12 years old, and interest may have waned

Until his death last year CTA driver Ian Burgess an I spent quite a lot of time together. He told me there were several F2-26-57s
•The first was the T43 run in late 1957 and early 1958
•A brand new T45 was introduced at Crystal Palace in May 1958, and given the same number. This was written off in Burgess's Avus accident at the end of that season
•Any subsequent F2-26-57s are therefore different cars again

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 23:13

I know this pot is now 12 years old, and interest may have waned

Until his death last year CTA driver Ian Burgess an I spent quite a lot of time together. He told me there were several F2-26-57s
•The first was the T43 run in late 1957 and early 1958
•A brand new T45 was introduced at Crystal Palace in May 1958, and given the same number. This was written off in Burgess's Avus accident at the end of that season
•Any subsequent F2-26-57s are therefore different cars again

Thanks for bringing this back up David. It has been ages since I've been on the site and ages since I've posted. I am still doing full-time caregiving for my step-father who has Alzheimers - my interest hasn't waned but my time has.
I'd enjoy hearing about Ian if you want to contact me off the site?
Ursula

#69 David McKinney

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:38

Email sent :wave:

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:20

I have a question about the Atkins Coopers in 1959.

At Monaco the Maserati engined car of Roy Salvadori was dark green with what I assume to be a white panel on the front of the car - imagine the works Cooper colours with the bit between the white stripes filled in. This can clearly be seen in photographs taken at that race.

Meanwhile, Atkins' F.2 car had an odd design of white on the nose section.

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However, I've just noticed that when Salvadori drove the F.1 car at Sebring at the end of the season it carried the colour scheme that the F.2 car had early on.

I'm wondering at what point in 1959 did the F.1 car get the F.2 car's livery - or am I actually talking about the same set of bodywork?

Im not sure about the patch on the top of the bonnet but the two little white wedges on each side of the nose were there to cover up a modification where the original join in the nose cone was cut and a wedge of aluminium welded in so as to open up the front and allow more air for the maserati engine. This modification stayed with the car untill it was crashed by John Hough at Lowood in 1962. John was killed in the accident. The bodywork was beyond repair but the rest of the car is still with the Hough Family in Australia.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:14

I want to thank everyone who has helped keep this one semi-alive while my life was turned on it's ear for over seven years.  I am sad to say that my step-dad passed way in March and I'm now getting back to my research and hope to post here more often.  Also, to get back to Goodwood in 2015.

 

Ursul