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#1 Turboshear

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 14:40

Why is David Piper's 917K (917-10) painted in a green-colored Salzburg livery? If I'm not mistaken, this type of green Salzburg livery never existed in 1970-1971 when the 917's raced.

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed.

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#2 alansart

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 15:26

Why is David Piper's 917K (917-10) painted in a green-colored Salzburg livery? If I'm not mistaken, this type of green Salzburg livery never existed in 1970-1971 when the 917's raced.

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed.


I think all, or most, of David Piper's cars were painted green.



#3 Tomas Karlsson

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 16:27

I think all, or most, of David Piper's cars were painted green.

Piper's 917 was white when it first appeared with it's new body at Thruxton in April 1970. When it raced at Karlskoga in August '70 it was red.

#4 Alan Cox

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 16:49

I think all, or most, of David Piper's cars were painted green.

IIRC it was connected with his sponsorship from BP. Or am I imagining it?

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 16:56


Piper's 917 was white when it first appeared with it's new body at Thruxton in April 1970. When it raced at Karlskoga in August '70 it was red.
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Does anyone have any photos of his car in those liveries? Was his red car sponsored by Weston's Diner?

#6 kayemod

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 17:05

IIRC it was connected with his sponsorship from BP. Or am I imagining it?


Yes that's right, and in a MotorSport 'lunch with' feature a year or so ago, I think that DP actually referred to the colour as 'BP Green'.


#7 Nordic

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 17:21

If you google david piper 917 and then search images you get 14,100 results. A fair few of those are of the various different liveries he has used.

Green does seem popular, even when sponsored by Sandeman

#8 Tomas Karlsson

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 18:36

At Kyalami in late 1971 it was red and white... (the #3 car)
http://www.a2zracer.com/page61.html

Edited by Tomas Karlsson, 08 December 2010 - 18:39.


#9 Tomas Karlsson

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 18:46

... and green earlier that year at Watkins Glen. (But not in the present "Salzburg" design.)

http://www.a2zracer.com/page56.html

Edited by Tomas Karlsson, 08 December 2010 - 18:49.


#10 Tomas Karlsson

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 18:48

Red version from 1970:

http://www.a2zracer.com/page25.html

#11 mfd

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 19:10

If you google david piper 917 and then search images you get 14,100 results. A fair few of those are of the various different liveries he has used.
Green does seem popular, even when sponsored by Sandeman

The green & white Salzburg type livery never existed in period, but most Piper cars were painted Modena Green before 1970 - the P2 & the 412P Ferrari, the T70 too.

When the 917 arrived in 1969 it was white through to the end of the season, then a couple of green stripes appeared in Buenos Aires and for the DNS race at Daytona. I think the final appearance in white was at Thruxton.
The colours changed to Red at the 1970 BOAC 1000k and stayed that colour for the rest of the season, except for the 1970 Kyalami race it appeared in the Brown & Orange Gunston colours.
Throughout 1971 it was Modena Green, although for the 1971 Kyalami 6 hours an extra car appeared & both were painted in the White and red colours of Lucky Strike.
One of the cars went back to green for 1972.





#12 David Lawson

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 19:44

Not in period but I snapped Piper at Le Mans in 2003

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#13 Doug Nye

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 22:26

David's green derived essentially from BP green - the BP oil company having been his long time sponsor.

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#14 mfd

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 22:42

David's green derived essentially from BP green - the BP oil company having been his long time sponsor.

I did a little exercise once and ordered some fleet paint for BP green. It was remarkably similar to Ford Modena :D

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 23:35

is that a young Stubbs behind David at Kyalami?

#16 Turboshear

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 02:56

The green & white Salzburg type livery never existed in period, but most Piper cars were painted Modena Green before 1970 - the P2 & the 412P Ferrari, the T70 too.

When the 917 arrived in 1969 it was white through to the end of the season, then a couple of green stripes appeared in Buenos Aires and for the DNS race at Daytona. I think the final appearance in white was at Thruxton.
The colours changed to Red at the 1970 BOAC 1000k and stayed that colour for the rest of the season, except for the 1970 Kyalami race it appeared in the Brown & Orange Gunston colours.
Throughout 1971 it was Modena Green, although for the 1971 Kyalami 6 hours an extra car appeared & both were painted in the White and red colours of Lucky Strike.
One of the cars went back to green for 1972.



What year then did David paint 917-010 in the green/white Salzburg livery?