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[Alan Cox]

The first photo quiz of the festive season (DCN - please can we have another of yours?)
All from 1974 and for those of you south south of Stoke-on-Trent, I apologise for the northern bias but that's where most of my photos were taken in those days.
1.

Hillclimb, rather than racing - Who is the driver?
2.

Driver?
3.

Car, driver and category?
4.

Driver?
5.

Driver? Edit: Apologies all round for misleading you - this is actually from 1973
6.

Driver?
7.

Driver?
8.

Driver - and his team-mate that year?
9.

Driver, and entrant?
10.

Driver?

Edited by Alan Cox, 26 December 2010 - 19:11.

[IanMH]

1 Jim Thompson

3 GRD 273 Douglas Thomson Thistle Metallics Formula Atlantic

4 Ensign F3, ?

9 Cyd Williams?

Cheers Ian

[Tim Murray]

2. Chris Meek?

[IanMH]

8 Patrick Neve, Robert Joubert Shellsport Lola T340

[Tim Murray]

4. Nick Crossley?
6. Gordon Smiley

Edited by Tim Murray, 26 December 2010 - 13:42.

[Sharman]

7) Alan Minshaw

[IanMH]

5 Luis Correia????

[alansart]

10. Pierre-Francois Rousselot?

[elansprint72]

Is there a prize for not knowing ANY of the answers?

[David McKinney]

If so, I'll toss you for it

[Alan Cox]

Is there a prize for not knowing ANY of the answers?

Now there's a surprise, Pete Yes, you win a tube of Aqua-Jel for your trouble.
The story so far..
1, 2, 3, 6 and 10 answered correctly. No. 8 half-right, and no. 9 driver correctly identified. Well done - I thought nos. 3 and 10 might have hung around a little longer.

[IanMH]

7 John Cooper

Edited by IanMH, 26 December 2010 - 18:30.

[alansart]

5. José Espirito Santo?

[Vitesse2]

Is there a prize for not knowing ANY of the answers?

Or for knowing that at least two of them were taken at Aintree? And some of the others at Oulton?

[Cirrus]

I thought José Espirito Santo was Portuguese, whereas the logos on the car suggest that the driver is Brazilian. Santo's car in 1973 had the striking "Shaft" livery - I'm not sure if he ws still sponsored by them in '74. '74 was a thin year for F3 in the UK, so there weren't many Brazilians driving. It's clearly a March, and the fact that the exhaust is on the left suggests that it isn't a Pinto-engined car. José Chateaubriand drove a Toyota-engined March in 1974, but I thought it was a works car, and therefore not run by Peter Bloore...

I don't think number 4 is an Ensign F3. Could it be the Roosters Ford of David Winstanley?

I'd go with Cyd Williams for number 9. Was his entrant Graham Eden?

Edited by Cirrus, 26 December 2010 - 18:11.

[Alan Cox]

Apologies all round for misleading you - Picture 5 is actually from 1973, not 1974. Does that help any of you?

[Tim Murray]

It does indeed Alan - Leonel Friedrich.

[Alan Cox]

Now just looking for no. 4.

[IanMH]

Now just looking for no. 4.

What about No.8 only half right?

[elansprint72]

I'm ashamed to say that I got two of the answers in the NZ quiz series correct but none from within the 50 mile radius of home.

[alansart]

I thought José Espirito Santo was Portuguese, whereas the logos on the car suggest that the driver is Brazilian.

A bit of a guess about his nationality

[Tim Murray]

What about No.8 only half right?

Neve and Joubert were certainly Shellsport team-mates at the 1974 Race of Champions meeting, according to my programme.

[Vitesse2]

I'm ashamed to say that I got two of the answers in the NZ quiz series correct but none from within the 50 mile radius of home.

Ah, but all you had to do there was put "Bruce McLaren" or "Chris Amon" down randomly and by the law of averages you'd get one right eventually!

[MCS]

I haven't read any of the answers, Alan - primarily because I've broken my glasses - and it's much more fun just having a go in any case!

Irrespective, wonderful pictures. Quite wonderful. God, I wish I could go back to those days.

Here goes then;

1.Thompson, some Yorkshire chap, hillclimbing family/thing
2. Chris Meek
3. Douglas Thom(p)son - Scottish personage/Formula Atlantic
4. Kim Mather
5. Lionel Friedrich
6. Gordon Smiley
7. No idea
8. Robert Joubert and his team mate was Patrick Neve
9. Cyd Williams
10. The helmet and colours say P-F Rousselot (spelling?). But did he race a 733?

[Cirrus]

What about No.8 only half right?

I still think the other half of the Q8 answer is Graham Eden.

[Alan Cox]

All questions now answered - Well done Mark, you have finally filled in the answer to question 4 - Kim with his Brabham BT38. Well done, too, to Cirrus for completing question 9.

To Summarise:
1. Jim Thompson
2. Chris Meek
3. Doug Thompson. F.Atlantic GRD 273
4. Kim Mather
5. Leonel Friedrich
6. Gordon Smiley
7. John (Cooper Metals) Cooper
8. Robert Joubert. Team-mate Patrick Neve*
9. Cyd Williams. Entrant: Graham Eden
10. Pierre-François Rousselot

* Being pedantic, Ian, you had the pairing correct but listed Neve as the guy pictured.
Anyone fancy any more?

[Tim Murray]

Thanks Alan, I enjoyed this very much. If you're willing to go to the trouble of giving us some more, I'm definitely game.

[Allen Brown]

Anyone fancy any more?

Yes! Next time I might actually get one right.

[alansart]

Is there a prize for not knowing ANY of the answers?

No1 wasn't very hard. His name's written on the door!

[Allan Lupton]

Is there a prize for not knowing ANY of the answers?

If so, I'll toss you for it

We'll need a three-faced coin, in that case.
Is there a prize for finding that even the answers do not mean anything to me?

[IanMH]

* Being pedantic, Ian, you had the pairing correct but listed Neve as the guy pictured.
Anyone fancy any more?


Ah!

Yes, please! That's my era, even if I was only sixteen. Much further oop north would suit me better!

Interestingly , I dug out some Autosports from 1974, after I had answered of course, and found that although some of us look back on this as a golden era, F.Atlantic and F3 were getting a hard time in the reports and editorials from one reporter in particular. Too expensive, dead-end formula, small grids etc. Of course some categories did have small grids and it was during the fuel crisis. If i remember correctly, we were lucky to have any racing at all that year. Cheers Ian

p.s. no p in either Thomson apparently

Edited by IanMH, 27 December 2010 - 14:09.

[Alan Cox]

David, Allan and Pete, I think you had to be going to modern club events in the north in the early 1970s to stand much chance of a full house here - Oh, sorry Pete, you were
Ian, you are right, of course, 1974 was a very poor year for F3 especially. Sorry I don't have anything from Croft/Rufforth/Ingliston.

P.S. Allen - I thought you might have spotted Doug Thompson and Kim Mather

[Allan Lupton]

David, Allan and Pete, I think you had to be going to modern club events in the north in the early 1970s to stand much chance of a full house here - Oh, sorry Pete, you were
Ian, you are right, of course, 1974 was a very poor year for F3 especially. Sorry I don't have anything from Croft/Rufforth/Ingliston.

P.S. Allen - I thought you might have spotted Doug Thompson and Kim Mather

If you mean me in that PS, never heard of either of them!
I went to lots of club events from 1958 on, but not in t'north. By the 1970s, as I was too involved at work, I only went to the club events I was, or might be, handicapping and I had no interest in the "club single-seater" (formulas Ford/V/3/4) racing anyway.

[Alan Cox]

If you mean me in that PS, never heard of either of them!
I went to lots of club events from 1958 on, but not in t'north. By the 1970s, as I was too involved at work, I only went to the club events I was, or might be, handicapping and I had no interest in the "club single-seater" (formulas Ford/V/3/4) racing anyway.

No, Allan, that was directed towards Old Racing Cars' Allen Brown (There are too many Alans/Allens/Allans on this thread )

[Sharman]

No, Allan, that was directed towards Old Racing Cars' Allen Brown (There are too many Alans/Allens/Allans on this thread )

Alan
If you go back to the 6os and 50s I might know some of the answers, Alan was the only one I could think of, when i first knew him he was trade rep for Fram, now whatever became of them...
John

[elansprint72]

No1 wasn't very hard. His name's written on the door!

Pardon; my batteries have run out.

[Phil Rainford]

Anyone fancy any more?

As I missed this one.......yes please


PAR

[Alan Cox]

Episode 2 - This time they are not all from club racing and neither are they all from 1974 (in fact, I'd be surprised if any are). For those of you who have stayed alert, they have all been posted previously on TNF

1.

Who is this pundit?
2.

Whose car is this?
3.

Name the driver of this modsports E Type
4.

Name the driver
5.

What make of car is this?
6.

Who is the driver?

Who are these people?
7. 8.
9. 10. (The one in the cycling gear)

[Phil Rainford]

I will have a go at a couple:

1. Eddie Jordan

4. Brian McGuire


PAR

[alansart]

5. Saracen

[alansart]

3. Eke Wheelhausen (although my spelling may be wrong)

[petestenning]

4/ Brian McQuire

6/ Pierre Francois Rousellet

7/ Plastic Padding suggests Eje Elgh

8/ Maurizio Flammini

9

[David McKinney]

9 Alan Grice

(and i would have got Elgh and Flammini if I'd logged on earlier )

[Simon Hadfield]

1, EJ,
2,Tony Brise
3, Brian Mcguire
4 ,-
5, Saracen
6, -
7. Eje Elgh
8,,Riccardo Paletti
9, Alan McCully
10, Len Terry
First time I've done one of these - please be gentle.

[David McKinney]

9 is certainly NOT Allan McCully

(Might be Brian McGuire, though)



PS: Sorry, I missed your sign-off. I'll try again:

I don't think No.9 is Allan McCully, but I'm prepared to conceded that it might be his one-time team-mate Brian McGuire

Edited by David McKinney, 28 December 2010 - 19:48.

[MCS]

9 Alan Grice

(and i would have got Elgh and Flammini if I'd logged on earlier )

Isn't that Bob Muir, David? (number 9)

In any case, number 2 is Tony Brise's Montesa Motorcycles F3 Brabham BT38, his wife to be stood to the side.

And, yes, I reckon it's our French friend P-F Rousselot again in the blue GRD. (number 6)

[Simon Hadfield]

He was the only one I wasn't sure of, if it's Alan Grice do I get half a point for Alan?

[David McKinney]

Until further advice from Dahn Unner, let's settle for someone Australian

[David McKinney]

He was the only one I wasn't sure of, if it's Alan Grice do I get half a point for Alan?

Quarter of a point, McCully's first name has two 'l's

[paulsenna1]

1, EJ,
2,Tony Brise
3, Eike Wellhausen
4, Brian McGuire
5, Saracen
6, Piere Francois Rousellet
7, Eje Elgh
8, Riccardo Paletti
9, Bob Muir
10, Len Terry