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#1 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:37

:stone :stoned: rons quiz number seven.

...1...who came first and second in the 1955 adac eifel race..and in what race cars..??
...2...at what age did stirling moss begin his professional racing career..??
...4...of stirling moss.s 529 competion races in his career..how many did he win..??
...5...in n.z. classic driver magazine..what do they call the collection of old discarded motor vehicles..??
...6...in the australian classic car magazine ..what do they call the collection of discarded motor vehicles..??
...7...in 1905 a darroq set a land speed record..what speed..what size litre engine..how many horsepower..??
...8...a dissagreement occured between the australian general motors and peter brock .in 1987..what motor vehicle was involved and what was the gadget ??
...9...what is the name of the n.z. canterbury car club monthly bulletin ..??
...10..how much was the brian pellow brabham 1600 cc. with trailer advertised for in 1970..??
...11..at nz ruapuna 1970 which 4 race saloons and drivers formed the front grid for the mercury series..??
...12..who won the first heat..and who won the second heat ??
...13..in 1970..what maximum speed did the earnie sprague gtho.falcon achieve at the ashburton standing quarter mile..??
...14..name 3 race cars that clyde collins raced beginning with ..f.. (not a swear word )..fa...fo..and fo..??
...15..name the speedboat powered by a ford 10 engine that clyde collins owned and won a bet with his father that he could get it up to 30.mph..??
...16..in 1970..when j. rindt died..what was the track was he racing at..and what was the cause of the accident ..??
...17..name all 10 american sprint car drivers entered in the brisbane international speedway this weekend..??
...18..at that speedway meeting..how much to win the main race..and for how many laps..??
...19..name the australian female drag car driver who achieved 300 m.p.h. on standing quarter mile..??..
...20..in a small township in the toowoomba area.what do they call sprint day..??

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:44

14 : Farina, Fordina, Fowog

16 : Monza, collapsed left front upright.

19 : Rachelle Splatt

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:46

8 : VL Commodore fitted with an Energy Polariser, developed with Dr Eric Dowker (so, not dodgy then... :rolleyes: )

Edited by GD66, 06 January 2011 - 08:47.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:00

8: Director (by Brock) with the Energy Polariser as mentioned.
20: Leyburn Sprints

Edited by David Shaw, 06 January 2011 - 09:01.


#5 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:15

1. Fangio first; Moss second; Mercedes-Benz 300SLR
2. Moss's professional career commenced when he signed for HWM at age 20
4. 212 races

Edited by Tim Murray, 06 January 2011 - 10:26.


#6 GD66

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:24

7 : :eek: just looked it up !!

109.65 mph : 25.4 litres : 200 horsepower ! :eek:


Off to find out more....

#7 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:36

:eek: hi gd 16..

...8..yes for polariser..

...8..i got another holden model..(try again)

#8 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:43

:) gd 66..
14..yes farina...yes fowog....give me another fa...
..16..monza yes (i read different part of his car ) ?
...19. yes r.splatt.

#9 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:07

16. As I understand it the reason for Rindt's accident was never definitely established, but the cause is thought to have been a broken front brake shaft.

Edited by Tim Murray, 06 January 2011 - 10:08.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:17

Q3 - ? The Invisible Trick Question?
Q5 - NZ Classic Car - Roadside Relics
Q6 - ? Same as NZCC? Weren't they run from the same office at one stage?
Q16 - Accident was in practice for Italian GP (Monza). We were in Italy doing the great Kiwi OE at the time . I remember the newspaper billboards "Morte a 300 Kilometri" or something like, and people milling around in the streets talking about it.

Back with a few more later!

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:21

16. As I understand it the reason for Rindt's accident was never definitely established, but the cause is thought to have been a broken front brake shaft.

Ron a couple below ,really busy at the moment will try to get back with another couple if time allows

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#12 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:29

:smoking: hi david shaw..good to hear from you..
..8..yes the director..and the polariser..yes..
..20.. yes ..leyburn sprints..thanks..

#13 Peter Leversedge

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:30

No 9 "Adrenalin" ?


#14 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:35

:smoking: hi tim murray..
...16..yes broken brake shaft..thats what i read.too..
..i saw the accident on a website 2 days ago..

#15 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:41

:smoking: hi peter..lev..
...9...yes the adrenalin..ok..

#16 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:50

:smoking: hi hiteknz..or howdy..
8...we believe was the director (not the senator.) ??
..14 yes third car fa..was falcon.. O.k.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:57


Hi Ron, me again

Q 10 - Barney Pellow wanted $3400 for his Brabham. For another $600, you could have had Kelvin Cameron's BT21 instead. Sounds cheap, but was probably more than I was earning at the time(per year!)

#18 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 11:01

:smoking: ..good evening.mr w.e..noopy..
..3...ok i missed number three..would you believe i wanted to see if anyone noticed...well would you believe that i just dam well missed it
..(no point though )
...5..no..sir it was nz classic driver..not nz classic car..try again..!!
...6..dont think so..
...16.. monza yes (gd 66 already got it.) call back.!

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 11:20

16 has been much discussed on here, along with photos of the wreckage in the thread and the broken brake shaft theory looks doubtful from the photos.

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#20 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 11:48

:smoking: ..tim i missed one..
i read s. moss started career at age of 18..but i.ll recheck and tell you where i got that..
fangio and moss..ok..won. eifel race..
..3..212 races o.k.

#21 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 11:56

:smoking: hi jt.pi...
..16..thank you for your input..i did.nt know that it had been discussed at length..i.ll come back with details of where i read it..sounds as if it is still ongoing..perhaps i.ll find the previous discussion.. interesting..not good to see the crash on the internet...ron..

#22 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:22

i read s. moss started career at age of 18..but i.ll recheck and tell you where i got that..

Depends whether you mean his competition career or (as your question specified) his professional career. His first motor sport event (a trial) was in March 1947, when he was 17. His first race was in April 1948, when he was 18. His professional career began when he was paid to drive racing cars, which I believe is when he signed for HWM in the winter of 1949/50, when he was 20. :)

#23 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:49

19. I wouldn't be surprised of Sue Ransom also accomplished that...

She spent time in America driving jet drag cars.

#24 ronmac

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:59

:smoking: hi tim again...(wots the name of the parrot ??0

...2..australian classic car magazine..2011 yearbook number 210..

mr motor racing (aust.classic cars dave morley. )
known as mr motor racing.he became a professional driver in 1948..at the age of 18..racing a cooper 500..his early career was meteoric,with works drives for both jaguar and hwm..in 1955 he was signed by mercedes benz.the famed silver arrows to partner the legendaryworld champion juan fangio ...
..as a new zealand born kiwi living in australia.would i be game to say an aussie magazine is wrong.??(joke)
..any further comments would be welcome...anybody ..(ron )

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 13:14

:smoking: hi ray i see that you.ve been getting at lot of rain there too..right in the path..

..yes great speed..300 mph (480 kph ) i think..would be interesting to see what speed sue did.. must be on internet somewhere..
does anyone know..?? (ron )

#26 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 13:24

:smoking: hi tim again...(wots the name of the parrot ??0

Polly, of course. :lol: (Do I get another point for that?)

...2..australian classic car magazine..2011 yearbook number 210..

mr motor racing (aust.classic cars dave morley. )
known as mr motor racing.he became a professional driver in 1948..at the age of 18..racing a cooper 500..his early career was meteoric,with works drives for both jaguar and hwm..in 1955 he was signed by mercedes benz.the famed silver arrows to partner the legendaryworld champion juan fangio ...
..as a new zealand born kiwi living in australia.would i be game to say an aussie magazine is wrong.??(joke)
..any further comments would be welcome...anybody ..(ron )

As I said earlier, I don't think he could be classed as a professional driver until he was paid to drive other people's cars. However, he did start earning prize money on his continental forays, notably Lake Garda, in 1949, so maybe that's how they define 'professional', but even then that would have made him 19. As always, of course, the quizmaster's decision is final.  ;)

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 13:33

:clap:hi tim ..thanks for the reply..
o.k. one point for the parrot...and what do points mean..? yes points mean prizes !! (who said that )?
..2...i.m happy to go with the majority..any comments any one.??

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 13:41

:smoking: .hi ray again..
had a quick look on the net..sue ransome..
women in hotrodding..h.a.m.b. post198 a mention but can.t see a speed
someone might know.though..
some interesting photos ....plenty of early fords and chevvys.hot rods and drag cars. etc worth a look..

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 20:32

:smoking: ..good evening.mr w.e..noopy..
..3...ok i missed number three..would you believe i wanted to see if anyone noticed...well would you believe that i just dam well missed it
..(no point though )
...5..no..sir it was nz classic driver..not nz classic car..try again..!!


oops - was probably asleep - Q5 - "Under The Hedge" - although it seems to have vanished in the last 1 or 2 I looked at.

Stu Buchanan


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 20:49

:smoking: good morning..mr.stu..noopy..
..5..yes .under the hedge..correct
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(i think that the australian classic car section of discarded cars is very clever !! )

i also think that tims parrot..on his photo dos.nt really look like a polly...looks more like a nigel..or even a bert..!!

#31 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 21:38

i also think that tims parrot..on his photo dos.nt really look like a polly...looks more like a nigel..or even a bert..!!

My good sir, Polly is deeply offended that you fail to recognise her ladylike qualities, and promises you a good ear pecking if you ever get within range. Anyway, who ever heard of a parrot called Bert?! :lol:

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 21:42

Re 4)
What do you consider SCM's career? Up until the Goodwood crash, or include the Audi touring cars, or later historic races?

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 22:21

:smoking: good morning..derwent motorsport..
re number 4..luckily i don.t use my memory ..i use info from motor mags..then if there is any discussion.(argument ) i can pass it onto the relevant writer..
same as question 2.. australian classic car 2011 yearbook page 138 dave morley...
it is what you call passing the buck..!!
all member of parliament do it... :clap:
whatever ....it was ..or is a brilliant career.. (ron )

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 22:43

According to the Robert Edwards biography of Moss, the 212 wins in 529 races are numbered up to, and including, the Goodwood event in 1962 where his top-line career ended.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 00:01

:smoking: thank you tim for your backup.. otherwise i would have to email aust.classic car magazine to contact..
feature writer...david morley...(to pick his brain )
in the circumstances...i am happy to accept that the name of your parrot is...polly...( though with a patch over
one eye it could be .....mini tim...?? (ron )

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 00:03

Ron, I think Australian Classic Car has used a few titles for their rustbucket page...

To which I've frequently contributed, of course. Rusty Treasures seems to be popular.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 02:27

:smoking: hi ray...thanks for your reply...one point for you..though on the same page was...
......rusting in peace......which caught my eye....but i see rusty treasures too...good one.. :lol:

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 10:13

:lol: hi pete leversedge if you.r there..went to archerfield sprintcars..heavy rain shower at 6 pm.
they tried to carry on but did not drain enough..have to run sat. night..
most yanks had gone to parramatta track..for fifty thousand dollars to win..race.
race was postponed from wet last weekend..
( found 50 dollar note..that cheered me up though !! ) ron.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 10:32

Hey, what's happened? Have the punters abandoned you? And half a dozen unanswered questions. I found a March 1970 Motorman, and Feb 23 Auto News, so here goes :

Q11 - Front row photo (A/News) presumably of Mercury $1000 Series main event was Red Dawson(Mustang) Paul Fahey(Escort FVA) Brian Crosbie(Escort Twincam) and Grady Thompson(Monaro) . (McPhail was in there somewhere getting an honourable mention!)
Q12 - Winners : Heat 1 - Fahey: Heat 2 - Dawson

Not always easy looking up stuff in Allan Dick's old magazines - date and numbering systems a bit haphazard sometimes.

Edited by wenoopy, 07 January 2011 - 10:36.


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#40 ronmac

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:44


:lol: hi mr wenoopy..thank you for your interest..due to lack of interest ill have to retire..still it was fun while it lasted .

11..here is a little hint (big ) try autonews vol 3 may 25 1970 !! might help..

clyde collins boat ...phone w. collins .christchurch .(white pages ) ??

hint..gtho speed..autonews..dec 1970.page 25 (might help a little ?? )

sprint cars ..try internet..archerfield..bis..jan 6 and 7..??

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:11

Not always easy looking up stuff in Allan Dick's old magazines - date and numbering systems a bit haphazard sometimes.



Rough-as-guts journalism at times, if we're frank...but written from the heart, and certainly captured the feeling of each meeting, in a time when NZ motorsport was at its' peak. Wish I'd kept some.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:40

Ron, I'll try to remember to track down a contact for Sue Ransom over the weekend...

I'm sure she went mighty quick.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:50

I watched her chat with Don Lane on youtube last night, what a good sort. Tidy, AND quick ! But sharp, too. Wouldn't surprise to discover she broke 300 in the jet, but it's VERY hard to find so far...

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 14:38

A very classy lady, indeed...

Neville Bridges should give me contact details.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 15:50

Q17. Still entered: Brent Kaeding, Brian Monteith, Jason Johnson, Jessica Zemken. Originally entered but not now competing: Donny Schatz, Joey Saldana, Cody Darrah, Craig Dollansky, Tyler Walker, Jason Sides

Q18: $20,000; 30 laps


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 22:11

:lol: hi tim ..good morning (here )
17..yes for 10 drivers..
..18..yes for $20.000....but for more laps than 30..unless they have changed it (i.ll check again )

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 22:17

:lol: hi ray good morning.
yes.be interesting for sue ransome.
..if you google ..rachelle splatt..drag racing..there are good details..
..rachelle splatt..the words first 3300 mph top fuel female is back...2003
..rachelle splatt top fuel burnout..
and a good interview if you have time..

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 22:22

:lol: hi gd 66..good morning..
..yes i agree..allan dick..autonews and classic driver always make good reading.(and david too of course !! )
..though allan likes to be a bit contentious. (is that the word..)but well worth a look..

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 23:07

...but for more laps than 30..unless they have changed it (i.ll check again )

I'm sure you're right, Ron. I couldn't find anything about the number of laps for this race, so took an educated guess based on the number of laps for the World Series event run at BIS in November.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 02:47

:lol: good day all..gold coast australia..still raining. speedway meeting.cancelled..over 200 mm central queensland..
..main road north cut at gympie..

Now the results quiz number 7 ..
...tim murray..........4 and one half.
...tims parrot..........1...
...gd66...................3 and one half..
...wenoopy.............3...
...david shaw..........1 and one half..
...pete leversedge...1...
...ray bell...............1...

thank you for your participation.....!!!.

....12...mercury race..heat one..coppins...heat two...fahey..
....13..ernie spragues gtho..quarter sprint.best speed...141.6...mph..
....15..name of clyde collins speedboat......clyde ankle...!!