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#51 eldougo

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 09:52

[quote name='Amphicar' date='Jan 12 2011, 01:35' post='4784753']
Several shots of Jim Clark with Colin Chapman riding pillion at Brands Hatch, September 1963

Posted Image...Anybody know who the 3rd person is in this great pic.

Thanks Amphicar you out done your self today GREAT pics ,love the dickey seat Merc ,and have you noticed the seat belt back in 1937 must be a 1st fore sure.
Thanks Igor for your contribution today .

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#52 Amphicar

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 10:37

...Anybody know who the 3rd person is in this great pic.

Thanks Amphicar you out done your self today GREAT pics ,love the dickey seat Merc ,and have you noticed the seat belt back in 1937 must be a 1st fore sure.
Thanks Igor for your contribution today .


Thanks eldougo, I assume the third person on the Lotus was one of the mechanics - Bob Dance perhaps? update - just realised that 1963 would be too early for Bob Dance. Dick Scammell was Jim Clark's personal mechanic that year so it is probably him.

Yes the seat belt is interesting as are the crash helmets, which look a lot more substantial than the cloth flying helmets that were the norm back then. The two seat W125 was resurrected in 1962 for in-car shots of Hermann Lang lapping the Nurburgring Nordschliefe for a Shell film narrated by Graham Hill . I wonder therefore if the photo is from 1962 rather than 1937?

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#53 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 10:53

What a staggering array of interesting photos...

Apart from some of the personalities involved, the technical aspects are more than just interesting. Just how much weight can a trailing arm made of ¾" 16g tube take?

#54 eldougo

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 11:25

I bet Colin went down one gauge for the next race,after seeing that photo.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 13:56

I bet Colin went down one gauge for the next race,after seeing that photo.

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#56 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 13:59

Of course he would...

Half of that's unsprung weight!

#57 Amphicar

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 15:35

Just one contribution from me today.
Jim Clark again, giving team-mate Mike Spence a lift during practice for the 1965 French GP at Clermont Ferrand
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#58 Amphicar

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 17:59

Just one contribution from me today.
Jim Clark again, giving team-mate Mike Spence a lift during practice for the 1965 French GP at Clermont Ferrand
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Update - well perhaps more than one after all. The first is in the "riding mechanic" class and comes with its own
caption, though it doesn't say where & when (Kent, Washington, 1966 if you're interested)
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Here's another amazing black & white shot - Bob Gerard giving Stirling Moss a lift on his Cooper Norton at Crystal Palace in 1953
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#59 Amphicar

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 18:33

What the heck! A couple from 1979:

1) Jochen Mass giving Jacky Ickx a ride on his rather battered Arrows A2 "doodlebug" at the French GP
at Dijon-Prenois. A fact of interest to me (as a Milton Keynes resident) is that the A2 was the last Arrows
built in MK before the team moved to Tom Walkinshaw's HQ.
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2) Winner Alan Jones chauffeuring ClayRegazzoni on his Williams FW07 at the US Grand Prix (Watkins Glen)
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#60 Amphicar

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 19:31

Finally for today (really) some cracking (if sometimes blurry) shots showing that, despite what Flavio Briatore might say, Nelson Piquet Sr is all heart:

1) Having just won the 1986 German GP at the old, scary Hockenheim, Nelson stopped his FW11 to give a lift to Keke Rosberg
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2) At the end of the Mexican GP the same year Stefan Johansson and Rene Arnoux thumbed a lift from Philippe Alliot in his Ligier JS27, which promptly broke down.
While Philippe was baling out of the Ligier, Stefan and Gerhard flagged down Nelson who gave all three of them a ride on the FW11!
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There is a video clip of the whole event here

3) The following year at Hockenheim Nelson stopped to help another stranded Frenchman - Stefan Johannson's McLaren team-mate, Alain Prost
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 12:15

Derek Bell and wee Jackie Belgium 1970

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#62 Amphicar

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 13:08

First post today - a couple of Le Mans "riding mechanic" shots

1) The Briggs-Cunningham Cadillac "Le Monstre" Spider at Le Mans in 1950.
The young lady in the passenger seat makes it almost a pre-echo of the Mark Donohue pic I posted earlier.
The mechanic in white ogling her might be better occupied fixing the left front headlight!

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2) Another Talbot-Lago at the 1950 Le Mans 24 hrs. This time the second placed Meyrat & Mairesse car.

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#63 Amphicar

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 13:33

Back to Formula 1, beginning with another one from 1987 - the Italian GP
Ayrton Senna practising for his iconic ride with Nigel four years later by
getting a lift on team-mate Satoru Nakajima's Lotus 99T

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Fast forward to 1993 and it's Gerhard Berger yet again - this time at the Monaco GP
using the Alex Zanardi Lotus 107B taxi service

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The German Grand Prix of 1993: Thierry Boutsen in the Jordan 193 giving a lift to JJ Lehto

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#64 eldougo

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 20:54

[quote name='Amphicar' date='Jan 13 2011, 04:31' post='4786202']

2) At the end of the Mexican GP the same year Stefan Johansson and Rene Arnoux thumbed a lift from Philippe Alliot in his Ligier JS27, which promptly broke down.
While Philippe was baling out of the Ligier, Stefan and Gerhard flagged down Nelson who gave all three of them a ride on the FW11!
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There is a video clip of the whole event here...A new record 4 driver one car ! :wave:



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Posted 13 January 2011 - 21:01

Derek Bell and wee Jackie Belgium 1970

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Iam glad Ron T put these rollbar tubes each side makes it SAFER for us Drivers ,must remember for next driver safety meeting

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#66 Thundersport

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 21:13

A mechanic got an accidental ride on the back of a Formula 5000 car at the Brands Superprix a few years ago...........

#67 Amphicar

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 22:27

A mechanic got an accidental ride on the back of a Formula 5000 car at the Brands Superprix a few years ago...........

Well this isn't the Superprix and it doesn't involve a mechanic...but it is Brands Hatch: Robbie Kerr gives Neel Jani a lift
after winning the A1 GP Feature Race on 4 May 2008
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#68 Amphicar

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 13:17

These are probably the final two F1 examples from me:

1) German GP 1995 - Rubens Barrichello getting a lift from David Coulthard in the Williams FW 17
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2) One from the noughties (2001 Spanish GP)
DC again, this time giving team mate Mika Hakkinen a lift back to the pits on the McLaren MP4-16
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 14:41

What the heck! A couple from 1979:

1) Jochen Mass giving Jacky Ickx a ride on his rather battered Arrows A2 "doodlebug" at the French GP
at Dijon-Prenois. A fact of interest to me (as a Milton Keynes resident) is that the A2 was the last Arrows
built in MK before the team moved to Tom Walkinshaw's HQ.
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2) Winner Alan Jones chauffeuring ClayRegazzoni on his Williams FW07 at the US Grand Prix (Watkins Glen)
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Great photos! Do you have any higher resolution images of these photos?
Please let me know
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#70 Amphicar

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 18:38

Great photos! Do you have any higher resolution images of these photos?
Please let me know
Regards
Igor

Thanks Igor, I think these versions are slightly better:

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Slightly bigger anyway!

#71 eldougo

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 23:18

The day " Brown Dog" won the Tasman series Feb 23th 1975 Sandown.
Posted Image...Our 1st F5000 car Warwick and the boys.P.Molloy L/h side. Phill Harris on back and John Wright on R/h side.
Info update thanks to Garry Simkin.


Another 4 on a car :wave:

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#72 W154

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 03:07

2) At the end of the Mexican GP the same year Stefan Johansson and Rene Arnoux thumbed a lift from Philippe Alliot in his Ligier JS27, which promptly broke down.
While Philippe was baling out of the Ligier, Stefan and Gerhard flagged down Nelson who gave all three of them a ride on the FW11!
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There is a video clip of the whole event here...A new record 4 driver one car ! :wave:

This Williams "passenger car" was such a success they entered cars in the British Touring Car Champs years later :)

#73 eldougo

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 05:15

How about this Classic "Girl Getting A Lift".
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 10:01

Several shots of Jim Clark with Colin Chapman riding pillion at Brands Hatch, September 1963
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The bottom snap doesnt look like Brands Hatch. Monza perhaps?.

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 10:44

The bottom snap doesnt look like Brands Hatch. Monza perhaps?.

Yes, and in answer to an earlier question, the third man is, I think, Mike Spence.

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 11:19

Thanks ROGER ,i was still wondering who he was Mike Spence it is until proven other wise. :up:
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#77 Roger Clark

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 11:34

I think the first of Amphicar's Clark/Chapman pictures is also Monza, to judge by the garland Clark is wearing and the fact that Chapman is wearing a tie in England (as one should, of course).

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 12:29

I think the first of Amphicar's Clark/Chapman pictures is also Monza, to judge by the garland Clark is wearing and the fact that Chapman is wearing a tie in England (as one should, of course).

I think you are probably right that the first and third photos are not Brands Hatch - apart from Colin Chapman's missing tie and the sudden appearance of flowers on the garland, the trophy
so evident in #1 and #3 has disappeared in #2 - as has the "third man" - perhaps he did a Pino! Anyway, apologies for giving duff info.
To make up for it here is a shot of Ronnie Peterson getting a lift on Carlos Pace's March 721 during practice for the 1972 French Grand Prix

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#79 Amphicar

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 16:24

These are probably the final two F1 examples from me:

I spoke to soon:

There is an poignant sense of deja vu here - a Brazillian in red overalls and a yellow helmet getting a lift on what looks uncannily like a Williams FW14.
It is actually Christian Fittipaldi getting a lift on Henz-Harald Frentzen's Sauber C13 after the 1974 San Marino Grand Prix.
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 16:52

Back to 1980 - after the Brazillian GP Riccardo Patrese gave a lift on his Arrows A3
to winner Rene Arnoux, who ran out of fuel on the slowing-down lap.

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Video clip of the event here

Monza 1985 and Elio De Angelis's Lotus 97T (T for taxi) is flagged down by Stefan Johansson

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#81 Amphicar

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 18:55

Not Tino n' Pino at Monza - but in the same spirit of mechanics going the extra mile (well, perhaps not that far in Pino's case):
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Goodyear gave the chap on the back of Dan Gurney's Eagle Weslake the task of observing tyre deformation during tyre tests at Goodwood

Here's another in the same spirit - who? in what? and where? (I don't know so I'm hoping for some answers)
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 20:26

Here's another in the same spirit - who? in what? and where? (I don't know so I'm hoping for some answers)
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I'm glad someone's dug this one out - I went looking for it when this current thread started, but the photo had turned into the dreaded red cross. Doug Nye originally posted it in this thread and described it as follows:

:up: Marsh-GM British Championship hill-climb car with Tony Marsh driving - making a Suncrush orange juice commercial! I just liked the bondage aspect, I suppose, plus the eiderdown round the bum as a crushable structure... :rolleyes:

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 23:32

I'm glad someone's dug this one out - I went looking for it when this current thread started, but the photo had turned into the dreaded red cross. Doug Nye originally posted it in this thread and described it as follows:

Thanks Tim - I should have guessed it was a hill climb car.
The photo below blows the previous 4 on a car shots into the weeds. By my count there are
eight crew members on the 1997 Daytona 24 hrs winning Dyson Racing Riley Ford (and the driver of course)

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 02:38

Amphicar.

Endurance racing cars are built STRONG.....I count 10 plus the driver :rolleyes: That thing must be built like a tank look at the rear dragging along on the track.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:20

Several shots of Jim Clark with Colin Chapman riding pillion at Brands Hatch, September 1963
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The top and bottom photos are taken at Monza in 1963.I refer you to the Doug Nye book,"Lotus,61-71: Design Revolution page 75. There is another ( similar) photograph captioned 'Victory grin. Jimmy takes CC and MS for a lap of honour at Monza after clinching the 1963 World Championship in the Italian GP"
The middle photo is a "trick" one. This is Jimmy driving his 1963 championshp winning car but in 1965 at Brands Hatch. I refer you to the book " Colin Chapman- The Man and His Cars" by Jabby Crombac. On p171 is a photo of JC about to take off from the starting grid with a garlanded CC on top of the engine cowl. About to follow them around on a parade lap are 3 single seaters, a Lotus 7,2 Elans and an Elite. The photo caption reads "An all Lotus celebration display at Brands Hatch to mark the winning of the 1965 F1 World Drivers and Constructors Championship".

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 09:19

The middle photo is a "trick" one. This is Jimmy driving his 1963 championshp winning car but in 1965 at Brands Hatch. I refer you to the book " Colin Chapman- The Man and His Cars" by Jabby Crombac. On p171 is a photo of JC about to take off from the starting grid with a garlanded CC on top of the engine cowl. About to follow them around on a parade lap are 3 single seaters, a Lotus 7,2 Elans and an Elite. The photo caption reads "An all Lotus celebration display at Brands Hatch to mark the winning of the 1965 F1 World Drivers and Constructors Championship".

There are enough photographs in contemporary magazines to be confident that hte photograph was taken on 14 September 1963.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 09:55

Here's another amazing black & white shot - Bob Gerard giving Stirling Moss a lift on his Cooper Norton at Crystal Palace in 1953
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I like the natural thought balloon over Moss's head that suits his facial expression; "Hell"! :lol:

Love the truck too!

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 13:16

I like the natural thought balloon over Moss's head that suits his facial expression; "Hell"! :lol:

Love the truck too!

I hadn't noticed that but you're right - wonderful! I think the breakdown truck might be a Fordson.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 13:51

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Zolder, 1973. Emerson giving Ronnie a lift back to the pits after one of his two Sunday morning practice shunts.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 14:03

Amphicar.

Endurance racing cars are built STRONG.....I count 10 plus the driver :rolleyes: That thing must be built like a tank look at the rear dragging along on the track.


Look closely at the cockpit and you can just see the top of, possibly, a female's head and a stray brown boot sticking out of the melee on the left of the car, I believe there are 11 plus driver!!!

Edited by Bauble, 16 January 2011 - 14:04.


#91 Amphicar

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 14:11

Amphicar.

Endurance racing cars are built STRONG.....I count 10 plus the driver :rolleyes: That thing must be built like a tank look at the rear dragging along on the track.

Hi eldougo - yes, not so much ground effect as grind effect (same thing if you speak like Prince Charles).
Anyhow, here's another shot of DC and Mika in Spain 2001
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 00:58

There are enough photographs in contemporary magazines to be confident that hte photograph was taken on 14 September 1963.

So the all-Lotus celebration day at Brands Hatch was the week after the Italian GP ? Surely Jabby Crombac would not be 2 years astray in his motoring history ? The photo in the book is in the chapter that covers the 1965 racing season.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:52

He must surely have got his photos muddled. Even if Team Lotus had wished to celebrate their 1965 championship with a 25 instead of a 33 (which would be pretty bizarre) the only 25 they hadn't already sold was chassis R6, which by then had been modified with (among other things) type 33 rear suspension, which the car in the photo doesn't have.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:14

He must surely have got his photos muddled. Even if Team Lotus had wished to celebrate their 1965 championship with a 25 instead of a 33 (which would be pretty bizarre) the only 25 they hadn't already sold was chassis R6, which by then had been modified with (among other things) type 33 rear suspension, which the car in the photo doesn't have.

I also thought it was a bit strange celebrating a 1965 Championship with a 1963 car. Looks like the old quote about not believing everything you read in a newspaper also applies to motor racing books !

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:26

I can see the brown boot ,and the jacket without fingers ,maybe the dude with the mustache is sitting on some body ,however i will stick with 10 i like even numbers.
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Those two pics of Ronnie sitting on the rear wing go to show they had to be strong to keep the back end down amazing.

They should be called the Two Ronnies,as in ( Corbett and Barker).

Edited by eldougo, 17 January 2011 - 05:30.


#96 Amphicar

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 21:17

I've got a cracker for the "mechanics going the extra mile" series:

Trevor Harris, designer of the 1983 Galles-All American Racers Eagle Indy car driven by Al Unser Jr is seen here checking...something at Phoenix during testing

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 17:43

I'm surprised that there have been no comments on the Trevor Harris photo - it certainly made me laugh. I seem to have run out of F1 examples but here's another Daytona 24 hour winner, this time from 1971.
Jackie Oliver is at the wheel of the winning JW Automotive Gulf-Porsche 917 and Pedro Rodriguez is on top with various mechanics, including Ermanno Cuoghi (right front wing), author of Racing Mechanic.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 20:06

I can see the brown boot ,and the jacket without fingers ,maybe the dude with the mustache is sitting on some body ,however i will stick with 10 i like even numbers.
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Those two pics of Ronnie sitting on the rear wing go to show they had to be strong to keep the back end down amazing.

They should be called the Two Ronnies,as in ( Corbett and Barker).


As we do seem to wallow in trivia on this site, I will pursue this just a little further. Look behind the mustachioed gent sitting on the jacket, is that half of a face that I see? I am connecting that to the stray boot, if it is an eleventh person I would guess at a female. Even numbers are so ooooo boring.

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:22

Ok iam agreeing 11 people on the car ,however the brown boot is attached to a male behind the Mow guy. you can see the reseeding hair line or half of it anyway.


Thanks Robert .

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 13:02

Eleven plus the driver...

The half a head, I will suggest, is someone with their torso in the left side of the cockpit. There's a third guy on the right side of the car with his hand in the air and nothing else visible, there are seven hats on the left side of the car.