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#151 Amphicar

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 22:47

Elly actually drove herself: http://petrolhead.tu...advices-to-elly

Mercedes Benz had a specially-adapted W125 two-seater, which was used to shoot a propaganda film at the 1939 Eifelrennen meeting. In breaks between filming the team drivers were allowed to give joyrides on it: I know Caracciola took Neubauer out and Seaman took Erica, but if anyone has any other details (or any photos) ...;)

See post 50 in this thread

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#152 Tim Murray

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:13

Are there any pre war photos of people getting lifts? Is there one of Rosemeyer giving his wife a ride in his auto-Union?

Elly actually drove herself: http://petrolhead.tu...advices-to-elly

These were separate incidents. Elly drove her two laps of Monza during practice for the 1936 Italian GP, and squeezed herself alongside Bernd to go round the Nürburgring during an Auto Union filming session immediately after the 1937 Eifelrennen. I don't recall ever having seen a photo of this.

#153 eldougo

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:54

Used with permission
Bob Jane driving the winning Mclaren .Hope John did not suffer from hayfever in those days.
always looked great that car.

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#154 eldougo

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:08

Use this link to see 7 people in Bob Jane Jaguar "Getting A Lift ".Anybody know who the man with his legs hanging close to the front wheel.

http://www.motorspor...r_1964__web.jpg

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#155 pilgrimsmaster

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 13:28

Colin Chapman , an extremley passionate designer who was pepared to do anything to add-lightness......apart from walk! :D

#156 arttidesco

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:57

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Wandering if Colin Blower did not trust Tiff Needel to drive his Starion safely to the pits, but I'm fairly certain that's Tiff on the back and a mechanic at the wheel :-)



#157 Glengavel

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 13:29

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Wandering if Colin Blower did not trust Tiff Needel to drive his Starion safely to the pits, but I'm fairly certain that's Tiff on the back and a mechanic at the wheel :-)


That looks bloody precarious. Surely Tiff could have squeezed inside somewhere?


#158 arttidesco

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 13:43

That looks bloody precarious. Surely Tiff could have squeezed inside somewhere?


I guess if your always living on the edge ..... :rolleyes:

#159 bigears

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:47

Either Eddie Cheever or Derek Warwick gave a lift to Stefan Johansson after his scary accident with a deer at the 1987 Austrian Grand Prix during a practice session. I got a scan of an Italian magazine somewhere.

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#160 eldougo

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 06:33

That would be good if you can find it. :up:

#161 Little Leaf

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:21

Either Eddie Cheever or Derek Warwick gave a lift to Stefan Johansson after his scary accident with a deer at the 1987 Austrian Grand Prix during a practice session. I got a scan of an Italian magazine somewhere.


Can you imagine that happening these days? Good grief they would have to spend a couple of hours being observed by the medical team!

#162 eldougo

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:41

Soooooo true and then have a stewards enquiry plus HUGH fine to the drivers and team.

More money to the FIA. :rolleyes:

#163 bigears

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 16:40

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Here is the scan of the Johansson lift with one of the Arrows at the last Osterrreichring F1 race.

#164 eldougo

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:51

I wonder if USF&G Insurance would have payup if he fell off on the way back "Getting a Lift". :)

Thanks Bigears for the above photo.

Edited by eldougo, 27 June 2012 - 10:59.


#165 eldougo

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 10:57

Getting a lift 2012 style , Photo thanks to Joest Racing leMans 2012.

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#166 arttidesco

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 19:38

Silverstone 1000 kms 1988...

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Not sure if James Weaver or Mauro Baldi was driving the #62 Sauber C9 when it crossed the line in
third place, I suspect the latter, either way the driver kindly stopped to pick up "Brilliant" Bob who
crossed the line 4th driving a Joest 962C ...

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and a Jaguar driver probably from the #2 car which DNFed out of fuel so either Jan Lammers or Johnny
Dumfries.

#167 eldougo

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:36

Found a couple more getting a lift.

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Edited by eldougo, 30 May 2013 - 09:41.


#168 Graham Clayton

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:19

George Robertson on the back of a Christie racer during the speed tournament at Daytona Beach in March 1910:

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#169 eldougo

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 11:17

Thanks Graham that would be the oldest"Getting a Lift".

#170 Ray Bell

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 12:30

We didn't ever post a photo here of Martin Sampson on the side of John Walker's Lola, did we?

Or should I say, Martin Sampson on his Lola as driven by John Walker?

#171 eldougo

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:04

No i just had a look not posted YET do you have one Ray?

#172 Ray Bell

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 08:26

Originally posed by eldouglas
No i just had a look not posted YET do you have one Ray?


Well, of course...

It was at the conclusion of this race:

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In this event John Walker clinched the Gold Star, completing the rare double also of winning the Gold Star and the Australian Grand Prix in the same year. To do this he had to beat John Bowe home, so during his early laps he worked hard to try to beat the Tasmanian. Bowe, however, retired with his suspension damaged due to a flat tyre, so Walker was able to back off and let Alf Costanzo win as he coasted to his points victory. Sponsor Martin Sampson (Magnum Wheels manufacturer) wrote in our F5000 Thunder book:

John Walker and I had an arrangement that we would keep racing together until we won the 'Gold Star'. We achieved this in 1979 - with the AGP for a bonus - and then left the sport.


Rob Newman, who prepared the car, recorded in F5000 Thunder:

After John had taken the chequered flag, he pulled up on Pit Straight and signalled for Martin Sampson to climb the pit wall and sit on the side of the car, which he did, while John completed his final lap of Sandown in an open-wheel race car, a fitting end to a stellar career.....


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.....As I was loading the car into the truck, I noticed a crack aroud the point where the ferrule which connects the rose joint from the upright is welded into the wishbone. It was the lower right wishbone.

We were all gobsmacked! It was only just holding together, cracked almost 100% of the way around the wishbone. What was a fairy tale engine could have been very different.


So Martin was actually sitting on a time bomb as he did his one and only lap!

Edited by Ray Bell, 03 June 2013 - 08:54.


#173 Graham Clayton

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 22:05


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#174 Duc-Man

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 09:08

Only 4 in and on this big car:
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#175 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 17:51

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This is Pedro Rodriguez. He's just won the Canadian Grand Prix(then for sportscars)at Mosport in 1963 and has picked up a couple of hitchhikers along the way. Not a clue whom they might be. Anyone?





#176 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 23:29

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Now there is an opportunity for Speedway, solos with passengers. Though they would have to rename them.

#177 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 23:32

Well, of course...

It was at the conclusion of this race:

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In this event John Walker clinched the Gold Star, completing the rare double also of winning the Gold Star and the Australian Grand Prix in the same year. To do this he had to beat John Bowe home, so during his early laps he worked hard to try to beat the Tasmanian. Bowe, however, retired with his suspension damaged due to a flat tyre, so Walker was able to back off and let Alf Costanzo win as he coasted to his points victory. Sponsor Martin Sampson (Magnum Wheels manufacturer) wrote in our F5000 Thunder book:



Rob Newman, who prepared the car, recorded in F5000 Thunder:



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So Martin was actually sitting on a time bomb as he did his one and only lap!

That is a great pic of John at full noise. A classic 5000 pic.
I had never heard that story about the wishbone. Maybe it is just as well that Martin is sitting on the left side of the car!

#178 Graham Clayton

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 04:40

The Societe Yacco Lola T298 at Le Mans in 1980:

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#179 Graham Clayton

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:48

1965 SPA,P. Hill & A Pilette ???



Giancarlo Baghetti driving the Scuderia Centro Sud BRM P57 - BRM V8, with Phill Hill and Bob Anderson hitching a lift after the 1964 Belgian Grand Prix:

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#180 eldougo

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:22

Great photo Graham it is some thing we will never see again with todays cars, and Lee it good when a few more pop up that must have been late 70.s at Sandown i guess..

Edited by eldougo, 09 August 2013 - 00:36.


#181 eldougo

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 00:32

Permission from Brian Watson to use his photos.
Jack and very Young Gary Brabham(changed) at after the win at Oulton Park 1967.(changed).

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Unknown driver" Getting a Lift" at Kyalami 1971 on the back of John Nicholson McLarenF5000 .

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Edited by eldougo, 12 August 2013 - 09:03.


#182 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 01:09

Originally posted by eldougo
Permission from Brian Watson to use his photos.
Jack and very Young Geoff Brabham at after the win at Oulton Park 1971.

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More like '64 or '65, eldouglas...

And I'd think, seeing as Geoffrey was at least 17 and racing in 1973, this might actually be one of the younger boys.

#183 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:03

It’s actually the Oulton Park Spring Cup run in April 1967 and the passenger is Gary (at this time Geoff was fifteen and David around eighteen months). There’s another photo showing Gary in the car in the Brabham/Nye book. This was, I believe, the first race where the Repco F1 engine ran in ‘640’ form using the revised cylinder heads with the exhausts in the centre of the vee.

#184 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:25

Of course, I had my blinkers on looking at the engine...

It's a Repco with the centre exhausts, which is an immediate giveaway for '67 or maybe '68.

#185 David McKinney

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:25

Unknown driver" Getting a Lift" at Kyalami 1971 on the back of John Nicholson McLaren F5000 .

Do you mean John McNicol? I don't believe John Nicholson ever raced a F5000 McLaren


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:16

It’s actually the Oulton Park Spring Cup run in April 1967 and the passenger is Gary (at this time Geoff was fifteen and David around eighteen months). There’s another photo showing Gary in the car in the Brabham/Nye book. This was, I believe, the first race where the Repco F1 engine ran in ‘640’ form using the revised cylinder heads with the exhausts in the centre of the vee.


Is it just me or does Brabham Jr. look distinctly unhappy!?


#187 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:32

I think you're right. In the photo in the Brabham/Nye book (a close-up taken with the car stationary) he looks distinctly underwhelmed by the experience.

#188 alansart

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:04

Probably freezing cold :eek:

#189 eldougo

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 08:40

I have changed it to 1967 (typo error)..

Only going by the details that come with the photo Re F50000 car.

So if it is not that driver WHO is it on the back ?

#190 eldougo

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:33

Iam waiting for the answer !!!!

#191 john winfield

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 07:48

Giancarlo Baghetti driving the Scuderia Centro Sud BRM P57 - BRM V8, with Phill Hill and Bob Anderson hitching a lift after the 1964 Belgian Grand Prix:

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Graham, is your caption a correction of the original? Either way, it doesn't look like Bob Anderson. I think Eldougo was right back in 2011 with his suggestion of Andre Pilette.


#192 Tim Murray

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:11

Iam waiting for the answer !!!!

Doug, instead of aggressively bombarding us with exclamation marks, perhaps you could try to help with the identification. You miscaptioned both of the Brian Watson photos you posted here (and still haven't changed the passenger's name to Gary in the Brabham photo). Brian Watson's caption for the second photo says that it's John McNicol in the 25th Anniversary Trophy at Kyalami in 1971. This race was run on 7th August, and McNicol finished a fine second to Dave Charlton's Lotus 72. The retirements were John Love, Willie Ferguson, Kipp Ackerman, Bob Olthoff and Spencer Schultze, and presumably one of these is the passenger. As you're obviously in touch with Brian, perhaps you could pick his brains about who the passenger might be. :)


#193 Tim Murray

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 08:31

Graham, is your caption a correction of the original? Either way, it doesn't look like Bob Anderson. I think Eldougo was right back in 2011 with his suggestion of Andre Pilette.

Unless the photo was taken during practice, it can't be Anderson as he didn't start the race following engine problems during practice.

#194 eldougo

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 09:28

The details pop up for a few seconds and they do not repeat. I ask Brian for permission not details. i have other things to do.


The retirements were John Love, Willie Ferguson, Kipp Ackerman, Bob Olthoff and Spencer Schultze, and presumably one of these is the passenger.


I will wait and fill in the blanks when details arrive via the TNF.that is what this forum is for.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 13:18

Iam waiting for the answer !!!!



The details pop up for a few seconds and they do not repeat. I ask Brian for permission not details. i have other things to do.

I will wait and fill in the blanks when details arrive via the TNF.that is what this forum is for.


Patience and manners seem to be something you've never heard of before....
Maybe you should ask Brian for the details you want to know instead of wasting your obviously oh so precious time with trolling around here.
You want to share something here, fine.
You have a question then ask and wait until somebody answers.

Even if I had the answer to your question, I would keep it for myself because of this a***hole attitude you're showing!
If we were in a pub I would show you the door and tell you to leave. People with this attitude are not welcome.

#196 eldougo

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 21:22

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my request re the McLaren photo ,your use of expletives is a waste of productive time in solving the "Getting a Lift" current riddle.

#197 alansart

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 17:57

Apparently it's against the rules now...... :confused:

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/110075


Edited by alansart, 22 September 2013 - 17:57.


#198 scheivlak

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 20:37

The reprimand was not for the lift but essentially for creating a dangerous situation - and after watching the videos in this thread forums.autosport.com/topic/190057-how-do-you-view-the-alonsowebber-penalty/ I agree with the decision.

See also http://www.blick.ch/...-id2450773.html

Edited by scheivlak, 22 September 2013 - 20:38.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 01:45

Not to mention Alonso driving at over 100kph with his passenger, a new record perhaps (?) but absurdly dangerous. IIRC from another thread on this forum, at least one driver (in Brazil?) has died during a pillion lift after falling off at high speed. An F1 race suit is not a MotoGP airbag suit.



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#200 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:58

That whole episode was insanely dangerous...

 

The way Webber ran out there on the track, the way Alonso pulled up on the line, ridiculous.