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[ronmac]

Rons quiz number 8...

...mairehau...nz...australia...uk...can am...

due in about one hour..

(tim..time to wake up polly..give her a cold shower..and a sip of red bull..)

[Tim Murray]

(tim..time to wake up polly..give her a cold shower..and a sip of red bull..)

Hi Ron. I was starting to get worried about you -thought you might have drowned in the floods. Polly wouldn't dream of touching that nasty Red Bull muck, but she's had a good swig of brandy and is raring to go.

[ronmac]

Rons quiz ...number 8 ...
...1...Name a nsw australia motor race track that was part bitumenand part gravel ?

...2...Name a canterbury nz...motor race track that was part bitumen and part shingle...?

...3...How many american sprint car drivers competed at the archerfield queensland speedway
...at the queensland open race meeting...jan..8...9...2011 ?

...4...what british award did jackie stewart receive in 1972 ?

...5...in the 1970 can am series how many of the 22 races did team mclaren win...?

...6...in new zealand..1970...how much was the retail price for a 1200 v.w.(to nearest hundred dollars )...?

...7...who won the 1970 german grand prix (round eight )...?

...8...in the n.z. benson and hedges race at pukekohe...1970 who was first...who was second...and who was third...?

...9...if you click onto autosport...bulletin...nostalgia...forum...refer frank shuter...iconic racer...number 49...
.......name the race track...what year was the race...?

...10..of over 20 cars entered.....one point for each set of 5 cars and drivers named (with race number if possible )(see question 9 )

...11...at the nsw..australia...speed on tweed..2010..who had fastest lap time... first...second and third...?

...12...what is the model morris van...(shooting brake )that looks like a series E...?

...13...in 1970...who won the 1970 austrian grand prix...?

[David McKinney]

1. Bathurst
2. Southbridge

8. Sprague/Leonard (Victor 3.3), McPhail/Collins (Valiant), Thomson/Rimmer (Valiant)

I'll let someone else have a go at 9 and 10 first...

And they can do the F1 questions as well....

[gavinevitt]

5. 22 races in Can Am 1970? McLaren won 9 of 10

7. Jochen Rindt Lotus 72

13. Jacky Ickx Ferrari 312B



goodnight.

[David McKinney]

I presume this is the pic for Q9/10:


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[Tim Murray]

3. None - the meeting was rained off.
4. OBE

Edited by Tim Murray, 18 January 2011 - 10:42.

[GD66]

4 : OBE


Edit : Drat ! Snookered. Sorry, Tim.

Edited by GD66, 18 January 2011 - 11:14.

[wenoopy]

Q3 : If I interpret your comments right - none. Rained off twice

Q10 : #5 Jack Tutton XK 120 ,#88 Ron Roycroft XK 120, #? Jack Tucker /Ford V8 Spl, #8 Halsey Logan/ Logan Spl,#44? George Smith/ GCS, #1 Frank Shuter V8 spl, . These are the front 6 on the grid, reading from left in photo. The rest would be total guesswork, although the car with the split windscreen at the very back could be R.Beach / Bentley.

[Ray Bell]

1. Bathurst... but only for one or two years...

Thurgoona-Wirlinga was this way for all three years it was used, so it's a more valid response.

Ron, I suggest you point out to your compatriots that the part of Bananaland in which you live isn't in the north or in the Brisbane River Valley.

Edited by Ray Bell, 18 January 2011 - 11:01.

[ronmac]

Hi david....
question 1....ok one point for bathurst..but give me the other one..closed now.??

question 8...(do i dare suggest )?? wrong year ?

..question 2..yes southbridge...

..yes right photo that is on frank shuter 49...

[Tim Murray]

11. First: Alan McConnell (Van Diemen); Second: Neil Farr (Bowin); Third: Bill Norman (GEK)

[ronmac]

HI gavin...

number 5...my info says 22 races in one season for mclaren ??

..number..7..rindt correct

..number. 13...ickx...yes correct..

[ronmac]

Hell im getting a bit behind.!!

i had to finish my plate of icecream with caramel flavour..

i.ll try to catch up !! (ron )

and my lap top is a bit slow tonight..

[Tim Murray]

number 5...my info says 22 races in one season for mclaren ??

Gavin's right - there were only ten races in the 1970 CanAm Championship, and McLaren won nine of them (Hulme 6; Gurney 2; Gethin 1). The other race was Tony Dean's famous win at Road Atlanta in the Porsche 908.

12. Utilevan?

[Tim Murray]

4 : OBE


Edit : Drat ! Snookered. Sorry, Tim.

Not at all, Glenn - I went back and edited my post just as you were posting, which was perhaps unfair. If I hadn't done that you might have got in ahead of me. Half a point each, I suggest.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by ronmac
question 1....ok one point for bathurst..but give me the other one..closed now?

Don't you like my answer?

[David McKinney]

question 8...(do i dare suggest )?? wrong year ?

You do. I was looking at the 1970 season, ie 1969/70. It fools me every time

The race that was actually held in 1970 (at the start of the 1970/71 season ) was also won by Leonard/Sprague, this time in a Valiant, from Emson/Bremner (Fiat 125) and Francevic/Borich (Falcon)

McPhail was doing his thing in a Datsun that time...

[David McKinney]

Q10 : the car with the split windscreen at the very back could be R.Beach / Bentley.

More like Ran Macdonald in his Riley convertible, I suggest

The No.9 MG is Sybil Lupp's TD
28 is Rob Shand's Railton Light Sports (ex-Charles Follett)
No.3 behind the MG is Duncan Rutherford's Willys midget

[ronmac]

Hi tim..i can see you.ve got polly working hard (too)

...3...yes none raced . too wet..

...4..yes..OBE ...

and 11...speed on tweed all correct.

..(ron )

[ronmac]

Hi ray.....
..yes i like your answer..though david answered bathurst first...

...and a point for thurgoona....wirlinga...was.nt aware of that one..

..i have a story about another one.yet ..??

when i wrote ...closed now ....i meant the track that i was thinking about...
..not that the question..answer was closed..!!

yes ill explain about the floods when i catch up...(ron )

[ronmac]

Hi gd 66...
..re your answer 4 obe....yes ..half each...half for tim and half for polly the parrot !!!!! ha..ha..(tough )

[Ray Bell]

If there's another I'd be surprised, Ron...

Except that there was a meeting at Towac where the breakup of the surface led to that circuit finishing the day as part bitumen and part gravel.

NSW Circuits it couldn't be as they were all bitumen of some kind:

Warwick Farm
Catalina Park
Amaroo Park
Oran Park
Wakefield Park
Eastern Creek
Gnoo Blas
Nowra - either circuit there as far as I know
Mt Druitt - either airstrip only or airstrip plus run up and down the hill
Parramatta Park

Couldn't be because I don't reckon they were:

Marsden Park (it was either all sealed or all gravel, not sure which)

So does that leave Ringwood or Tomago as a possiblity?

[ronmac]

Hi..back to you ray..just read the article again...seems to be right.though..interesting...don.t say i.ve got you stonkered ??

...keep thinking....heres a hint ..its on page 66..can.t tell you what book or magazine though !!

[ronmac]

hi gavin...yes you are right and i was wrong..1970 can am series..9 out of 10 races..

...i was careless and read the headlines....motorman..1970 december page 25...

headlines.....20 victories in 21 starts is.nt a bad record ..is it..?

must have been talking about the last two seasons..(sorry mate )

[Tim Murray]

That fits, as McLaren won all 11 races in '69.

[ronmac]

Hi wenoopy...must be 2 in the morning there now...in nz...

...3...too late..tim got that...

....10...yes...for...tutton..roycroft..tucker..logan..g.smith..

...also..shuter v8...beach 4 bently....(only 14 to go and you.ve got the lot.) !!

..good going..

[ronmac]

...tim...we got can am sorted...

...12 morris van....not utilevan....might have been a n.z. model..but don.t think so...

[ronmac]

hi david...catching up....

...number 8...b and h ...all placings correct

..number 10..mairehau correct...

..number 10..lupp mg....shand railton....rutherford willys..allcorrect (4 ) need some more ??

[David McKinney]

Well, although I can't necessarily identify them from the photo, I could add Sharman in his V8 Special (as in the other photo), Wally Darrell (ACE), Alec Ferguson (RA), Geoff Roud (MG TC), Douglas Haigh (Ford 10 special) and the Blackburn so-called Cooper 500, possibly driven by Vic of that ilk but more likely by his daughter Nola

[ronmac]

Good morning all..
david....i see you have 10 mairehau car and drivers on your list.(but can.t see...roud mg entered ? )

in the photo i can only see about 13 cars but in the programme there is 20 cars..
do you think the photo is of a practice ..or did they only start the fastest cars ??
...i still have 4 not named yet...
don.t think anyone has told me what year mairehau it is yet ??

o.k. guys...still to come.....
...6..how much is a new vw car in nz 1970 ??
...7..what year is the mairehau race ??
...12..what is the model little morris van..which looks like a SERIES E car.??
...10.. final 4 cars entered ...mairehau ??

[David McKinney]

7 - 1952. As stated in the other thread, this was the only year (before 1956) that the Mairehau feature was started from a grid, rather than on a handicap basis. I'm sure the photo shows the line-up for the race

Regarding your four missing names: Arnold Stafford (Cooper 500), Des Wild (Allard), Russell Beach (Bentley 4½), Del Drewery (Singer Special) and Noel Ching (Singer Le Mans) were all non-starters

[wenoopy]

Q 12 - Was this a Morris Z Van? - seems to have been the UK name for it. I remember a character called Jerry Madden who ran a mobile fishmonger business using one of these on Auckland's N.Shore when I was a kid. He reminded me of "Unhygenix" and his wife "Bacteria" - fishmongers in the Asterix the Gaul books, and his Morris Van was in similar condition.

[ronmac]

...Well done mr wenoopy...!!!
...12.....yes the series .Z...van...only the two of us (in the world ) knew that !!

..nearly finished...

...6..how much for a new VW.1200.. in nz..1970..(have a guess ...first to the nearest $100...) ?

...1..finally...I read about a nsw race track..part bitumen..part shingle...many moons ago...7.2 mile...11.6 kms...
....when the race was on..one side of the road was raced on..the other side of the road was open to traffic..
...the track had a hairpin bend ..long straight...tricky turns...and a water crossing too !!
...the circuit closed in 1938..!!
...now which track ray bell ??

[ronmac]

yes david....mairehau year is 1952...(well that is what i thought by the starters in the programme )

And mairehau race cars you listed totalled......14

and wenoopys list totalled.....7...

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by ronmac
.....nearly finished.....

...1..finally...I read about a nsw race track..part bitumen..part shingle...many moons ago...7.2 mile...11.6 kms...
....when the race was on..one side of the road was raced on..the other side of the road was open to traffic..
...the track had a hairpin bend ..long straight...tricky turns...and a water crossing too !!
...the circuit closed in 1938..!!
...now, which track Ray Bell?

Just one thing, Ron old chap...

Was it for bikes or cars or both?

If cars only, I feel sure I've already given the answer.

[john medley]

Perhaps Vale?

Near Bathurst?

So, is the answer " One at Bathurst, anyway"?

Problem: I suspect the Perthville Straight was not initially tarred. I believe the whole circuit was dirt, including the Perthville Straight.

[Ray Bell]

Yes, John, the closing date certainly fits with the Vale circuit...

And I can just imagine racing going on on one side of the road as any traffic heading through drove down the other side along the railway line there.

But that was for bikes only, cars never ran there. Except you and I, of course, and I had Denis Watt as my eyes-on-stalks passenger!

[ronmac]

Hi john medley and ray bell..

I hope you gentle men of a certain age.....don.t consider me in the least bit tricky...!!!

ray ..i checked back and i can.t see an answer .....similar to ....old vale circuit...vale circuit..vale or even ..o.v.c...

so while david got a point for bathurst...and you got a point for your fine collection of n.s.w. race tracks...

..i am sure you have no objection for john medley receiving a point for......vale....!!! well done....

cars ..and..or motor cycles...the article i read was from the australian classic car magazine..nov..2010..page 66..

yes..bitumen at start line for 100 yards..the rest dirt.....( tricky ) don.t know if they ever raced cars there ..i tried to attend the final

meeting in 1938..but i was only 6 months old..(and i had just had an accident in my drawers ) !!

...(can some one please have a go at the nz retail price of a new 1970 vw car..so i can wrap this quiz up..before i get attacked )

and the impending evening thunder storm threatens to fry my lap top...(please note that all of my tricky comments were given with love ) !!

[David McKinney]

I did look for the VW price but couldn't find it

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by ronmac
.....Ray ..i checked back and i can.t see an answer .....similar to ....old vale circuit...vale circuit..vale or even ..o.v.c....

And you naturally won't have, Ron...

I had assumed you meant a circuit for cars, but the thought of the Vale circuit was with me when I asked about bikes. No doubt that helped young John come to mention it.

[KarlLeFong]

I presume this is the pic for Q9/10:


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How modern were the XK's compared to those old perpendiculars

Sir William was a genius.

Karl

[ronmac]

Hi thanks for joining us..that great photo is the 1952 mairehau nz road race..
I am lucky to have original 16 mm movies of those races..fun to go over them..
..i drove an xk 120 once ..for 20 meters..belonged to a friend..it was in line..at ruapuna race track..
.due to go out for practice..and required to be driven forward to close the gap.. i got into the empty seat.drove forward
..20 meters leaving a gap of a metre (i thought ) but when i checked..there was less than one inch gap..long noses on
those xk 120 s..almost cost me a lot of money..hav.nt driven one since.!!

[David McKinney]

How modern were the XK's compared to those old perpendiculars

The photo was taken early in 1952. Roycroft's XK120 had been landed just a few months earlier, Tutton's a year before
The GeeCeeEss on the front row was at this stage just over a year old, the Shuter car over the driver's left shoulder two years old, and the No.8 Logan Special the same. MG TDs were fairly new then, but the Railton was pre-war

[ronmac]

Rons quiz....Results for Quiz 8....
....mr mc kinney...esq............................8 points.

....mr wenoopy.....esq............................3 points.

....mr tim murray..esq.(+miss.polly ).......3 points.

....mr gavin evitt...esq............................3 points.

....mr ray bell.......esq............................1 point.

....mr john medley.esq...........................1 point.

....mr gd 66..........esq.....................half point.(for o.b.e.)

....mr ron mac.......................................1 point (for vw price $1185.nz )

....mr carl rabbidge esq..........................too busy.!

hey carl..where have you and peter leversedge arranged for our ...noggin and natter...or ..coke and chat..

..weekend of the scope classic weekend..racecourse pub....blenheim road (might be recognised)...riccarton road..white heron(airport)???

[Tim Murray]

Thanks Ron - another entertaining effort.

[ronmac]

Thank you tim ( and the pol..) for your kind words..might even do quiz 9.....

quiz 8 was getting a little tricky..and considered having to go to tribunal !!!!

but did.nt think the punters could afford the fees....ha ha..

[Ray Bell]

Another Aussie circuit question would be good, Ron...

Especially if it's not a bike one!

[ronmac]

Hi ray... but you don.t want me to go easy on the group.....and lose the name.....tricky mc phail..??

ok..i found some different race tracks (n.z. ) and motor bikes !!!usa racing...lotus...u.k.tv..f1.....s.a. gp....airplane..vauxhall...????

[Ray Bell]

Okay, Ron... it's up to you...

But if it's a bike track, for heaven's sake, tell us it's a bike track! I knew the Vale circuit was a good chance, but didn't go there because I thought the quiz was about car racing.

And, for the record, the Thurgoona-Wirlinga circuit (1938-1940) is about that length, had a section where through traffic drove alongside the track (but didn't share the road) and had some dips that could have contained water.

Just ask John...