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[Ray Bell]

For the purposes of a job I'm doing at the moment, there are people I need to find to ensure accuracy...

If anyone knows how I can find these people, can you please e.mail me (e.mail address is at the bottom of my posts)?

Keith Holland
Steve Thompson
Alan Rollinson
David Oxton
Evan Noyes
Garry Pedersen
Dexter Dunlop
Frank Radisich
Stan Keen
Colin Hyams
David Hobbs
Ron Grable
Denis (Dennis?) Marwood
Mike Campbell
Mike Goth
Derrick Williams
Kaye Griffiths
Reg Cook
Robbie Booth
Allan McCully
Howie Sangster
Baron Robertson
Bruce Allison
Phil Moore
Ken Shirvington
John Edmonds
Chas Talbot
Keith Poole
Chris Milton
Stephen Fraser
Rob Butcher
Peter Edwards
David Powell
Alan Newton
Chris Featherstone
Peter Middleton
Don Breidenbach
John Briggs (USA)
Lugsy
Barry Singleton
Ian Adams
Gary Dumbrell
Bronwyn Taylor

I'll look for some more later, but there won't be many...

Any help at all is appreciated.

[David McKinney]

You won't find Baron Robertson - he died in Sydney a few years ago

And Dennis Marwood does indeed have two 'n's

In this day and age it's not a silly idea to do a search on Facebook (shudder). Some of those people at least are on

[Giraffe]

In this day and age it's not a silly idea to do a search on Facebook (shudder). Some of those people at least are on

Not quite sure why you're shuddering David; I'm sure I've seen you out there............

Several of the Brits mentioned are BRDC members & can be contacted via the club.
(Feel free to PM me if you need a contact & e-mail address for this Ray)

[Thundersports]

I can help you with Keith Holland. But your inbox is full!

Edited by Thundersport, 19 January 2011 - 23:35.

[Ray Bell]

I'll see if I can do that, David...

Thunder, my e.mail address is r@ybell.net ... and that inbox is never full!

Just click on it at the bottom of my post, you'll see.

[2Bob]

Stan Keen try Turbo Tune 959 South Road Melrose Park SA 5039 Phone: 08 8297 1030
Keith Poole try: Mark Poole Motorsport 3 Conmurra Avenue Edwardstown S.A Ph: 08 8276 3885
Chris Milton www.miltonengines.com.au

[Redneb]

Dennis Marwood

http://yellow.co.nz/... marwood-1.html

[CarlRabbidge]

Will send you a few details after the weekend, Robbie Booth & David Oxton should be about this weekend so I can grab their details, I have Cookie's details at home and Gary Pederson and I will be having a catch up later today after testing etc finishes.

[Ray Bell]

Excellent, gentlemen... thank you and please keep them coming...

I guess I should e.mail Jerry Entin about some of the US ones.

[smeetsie]

G'day Ray,
These are all F5000 or big banger Sports Car drivers from Adelaide:-
Stan Keene - via his sons
Phil Moore - still around - try Sporting Car club
Keith Poole - as suggested son Mark
Chris Milton - has business listed in phone book
Stephen Fraser - have no contact details but Sporting car Club possible
Rob Butcher - was working Roxby Downs - Sporting Car Club
Peter "Chris" Middleton - saw him recently - still around. I bought his Nganti Ford 2.3 Pinto powered Boral Sports car, he bought Stan Keen's V8 Group A Boral/Elfin F5000 cars - then sold them and bought later F5000 Elfin which Vern Schuppan drove at Sandown AGP when he had epic dice with Goss in Matich.

Other F5000 drivers (I think) from Adelaide: (note some have sadly left us).
John Walker
Mel McEwin
Alan Nitschke
Greg Ferrall
Colin Trengove
See the Mallala photos - a F5000 Elfin MR5 (?) driven by ????

I used to do the Rothmans F5000 series programs for Bill and Judy Pickett at A.I.R.
I will check my oldies.....

Smeetsie

[Ray Bell]

The focus is actually F5000 drivers, and I do thank you for reminding me of Mel McEwin...

Great support I'm getting here, again, thanks.

Oh, and I'd like to add Derek Bell to the list, I had an e.mail address for him but it's been lost.

[Lola5000]

The focus is actually F5000 drivers, and I do thank you for reminding me of Mel McEwin...

Great support I'm getting here, again, thanks.

Oh, and I'd like to add Derek Bell to the list, I had an e.mail address for him but it's been lost.

for the international drivers I'd g on Facebook.
Do you want Minogues email?

[Cirrus]

Some of the UK-based drivers were at Oulton Park in 2009 at the Gold Cup meeting. Try emailing the HSCC on office@hscc.org.uk . They should be able to put you in touch with the person who organised the get-together.

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=3828567

[Ray Bell]

Thanks, Cirrus, good suggestion...

Must remember to get in touch with the Pilettes as well, and yes, I'd like Minogue's e.mail.

[brucemoxon]

Thanks, Cirrus, good suggestion...

Must remember to get in touch with the Pilettes as well, and yes, I'd like Minogue's e.mail.

You'll get Gary Dumbrell via either of his sons. Lucas has his own V8 team - http://www.ldmotorsport.com.au/contact

But you'll want to hurry for Gary - he was looking very ill at Bathurst - not long to go now I'd think.




BM

[richie]

Some of the UK-based drivers were at Oulton Park in 2009 at the Gold Cup meeting. Try emailing the HSCC on office@hscc.org.uk . They should be able to put you in touch with the person who organised the get-together.

http://forums.autosp...a...t&p=3828567

Twas me largely, I'll send you a pm later.

[Marc Sproule]

Ray:

A little info.....

You should contact the Speed TV folk through their website for info about Hobbs, he's one of their tv talking heads for the F1 coverage here in the states.

John (JD) Briggs died some years ago, leukemia if I memory serves. He had been living in Carmel Valley, not far from Laguna Seca.

Ron Grable...When I met Mike Brockman in '73 he and Grable were good buddies. It's been some time since I've had contact with Mike but am chasing contact info on him. He'll probably know where to find Grable.

Don Breidenbach....haven't heard of him in years but I'm trying to find his brother "Emmet" so he should know. I'll pass it on if I find out.

Dave Oxton...I have an email address. If you can't find him pm or email me and I'll send it along. Not sure if it's current.

And that's the extent of what help I can offer at the moment.

[Ray Bell]

Gary Dumbrell... "not long to go now..." Baron Robertson... "died in Sydney a few years ago..."

John Briggs... "Leukemia if memory serves..."

Add to that the ones I didn't list because I knew, Gary Campbell (one of nature's gentlemen), John Cannon, Colin Trengove, Max Stewart etc.

Way too many aren't around any more, are they?

I don't use PMs, e.mail as per below. I have David Hobbs' e.mail now, it's great the e.mails I'm receiving, but I need more. Thanks to those who are racking their brains and helping out.

[Thundersports]

Emailed you. Teddy Pillette is on Facebook.

[brucemoxon]

Emailed you. Teddy Pillette is on Facebook.

Mmm! Good point.

Ray, there's a Facebook group for F5000s - quite a few old drivers are on there (Pillette, Jurgen Barth, Derek Daly) - some very interesting names. Seriously, it's worth joining - put down 1901 as your year of birth if you want - or 2001 - they don't check.



BM

[Ray Bell]

I might go on there...

I was forced to join up the other week, I worked out a way to put a false birthdate on and remember it.

Now, thanks to another member e.mailing me I add Derrick Williams to those no longer with us. Surprisingly, nobody picked up on that, I guess, he was killed in a fiery inversion in England in 1970... the circuit wasn't mentioned.

[Tim Murray]

He died at Anderstorp:

Lola 142 number 42 & Derrick Williams

http://www.motorspor...php?db=ct&n=703

[Ray Bell]

Thanks Tim...

The obit I was sent didn't mention the circuit, I made the assumption it was England. I shouldn't do that!

[Tim Murray]

Ray, I don't know whether this is of any interest to your current project, but Allen Brown obviously did some more digging and concluded that the Lola T142 in New Zealand being discussed in that earlier TNF thread was not the car in which Derrick Williams was killed:

http://www.oldracing.../t142/#brackett

[Ray Bell]

Thanks, but it's not terribly relevant...

The book is about Australian and Tasman Cup F5000 racing. What happened outside that arena is only of peripheral interest. Not ignored, but not central to the theme.

[Ray Bell]

Well, while I'm very grateful for those who have given me contact details of various drivers, I'm finding an immense number of them unsuccessful!

I will try to get back to each of those who've e.mailed me, but I really would like to open up this whole subject again. We've got some fantastic contributions coming in for the book and the pictures are excellent unpublished (on the whole) images of a spectacular time in our racing history.

But we're well behind the 8-ball when it comes to making contact with the drivers.

Anyone who can help, please e.mail me - r@ybell.net

[E1pix]

For the purposes of a job I'm doing at the moment, there are people I need to find to ensure accuracy...

If anyone knows how I can find these people, can you please e.mail me (e.mail address is at the bottom of my posts)?

Ray:

I just emailed you.

[Ray Bell]

Thank you...

There are still a lot of drivers for whom I don't have contact details.

[Lola5000]

Thank you...

There are still a lot of drivers for whom I don't have contact details.

Clear out ya in messages and ya can have Minogues.

[Ray Bell]

Please send by e.mail...

Unlimited space in my e.mails. r@ybell.net

[john medley]

Phillip Moore is a pharmacist in Adelaide, there were Frazers at Kevin Shearers funeral last year, Rob Butcher Roxby Downs... try SA SCC for all
Bob Minogue too, .... in Vic

[Lola5000]

Phillip Moore is a pharmacist in Adelaide, there were Frazers at Kevin Shearers funeral last year, Rob Butcher Roxby Downs... try SA SCC for all
Bob Minogue too, .... in Vic

Phil Moore,contact the Ferrari car club S.Aust

[john medley]

Come to think of it, because P Moore ran over Team Owner K Patrick in Team Owner's Bugatti 2? years ago at Speed on Tweed and left him lying on the road with a broken leg/ankle as PM motored splendidly into Murwillumbah, perhaps contact PM through Mr Patrick's solicitor -- who is probably Mr Patrick. PM me, and I will supply

[Ray Bell]

I'm actually making some good progress in this pursuit...

Thus far I've contacted about fifty people who raced these cars in New Zealand or Australia. And there's several more who won't be hard to get onto.

But I've just made up a list, and it's pretty long! The people I don't yet have any contact with (though some are among contacts that various members here have sent me) number over sixty! And there would be more, I'm sure, if I had some NZ Gold Star entry lists (David McKinney?).

Let's see... which ones are becoming an issue still:

Tim Slako
Don Breidenbach
Frank Radisich
Phil Moore
Des Lascelles
Mike Goth
Stan Keen
Dexter Dunlop
G Love (NZ)
Graham Baker
M Baker (NZ)
Bronwyn Taylor
Robbie Booth
Allan McCully
Reg Cook
Kevin Loy
Ken Shirvington
Ian Douglass
Lugsy Adams
Ian Adams
Alan Nitschke
Mel McEwin
Stephen Fraser
Peter Middleton
Teddy Pilette
Colin Hyams
Neil Doyle
John Surtees - surely he isn't too hard?
Pierre Phillips
Stew McMillan
Jim Lowe
Peter Edwards
Dave Powell
Alan Newton
Don O'Sullivan
Howie Sangster
Paul Bernasconi
Henri Pescarolo
Ed Polley
Gil Cameron
Peter Gethin
Greg Doidge
Kaye Griffiths

Some will look at this list and recall that they sent me a contact number or address for some of them... yes, thanks, but either e.mails have bounced or phone calls found them no longer there. Just a couple of them I haven't tried yet... but I have so far made contact with about fifty of their number.

Basically, if they're not on this list, I know I can find them myself, I know they are deceased or I have made contact. You know, sitting up at 3am making phone calls to England and that sort of stuff.

Once again, all assistance is gratefully accepted, either by posting here or by e.mail to r@ybell.net

[Lola5000]

I'm actually making some good progress in this pursuit...

Thus far I've contacted about fifty people who raced these cars in New Zealand or Australia. And there's several more who won't be hard to get onto.

But I've just made up a list, and it's pretty long! The people I don't yet have any contact with (though some are among contacts that various members here have sent me) number over sixty! And there would be more, I'm sure, if I had some NZ Gold Star entry lists (David McKinney?).

Let's see... which ones are becoming an issue still:

Tim Slako
Don Breidenbach
Frank Radisich
Phil Moore
Des Lascelles
Mike Goth
Stan Keen
Dexter Dunlop
G Love (NZ)
Graham Baker
M Baker (NZ)
Bronwyn Taylor
Robbie Booth
Allan McCully
Reg Cook
Kevin Loy
Ken Shirvington
Ian Douglass
Lugsy Adams
Ian Adams
Alan Nitschke
Mel McEwin
Stephen Fraser
Peter Middleton
Teddy Pilette
Colin Hyams
Neil Doyle
John Surtees - surely he isn't too hard?
Pierre Phillips
Stew McMillan
Jim Lowe
Peter Edwards
Dave Powell
Alan Newton
Don O'Sullivan
Howie Sangster
Paul Bernasconi
Henri Pescarolo
Ed Polley
Gil Cameron
Peter Gethin
Greg Doidge
Kaye Griffiths

Some will look at this list and recall that they sent me a contact number or address for some of them... yes, thanks, but either e.mails have bounced or phone calls found them no longer there. Just a couple of them I haven't tried yet... but I have so far made contact with about fifty of their number.

Basically, if they're not on this list, I know I can find them myself, I know they are deceased or I have made contact. You know, sitting up at 3am making phone calls to England and that sort of stuff.

Once again, all assistance is gratefully accepted, either by posting here or by e.mail to r@ybell.net

Phil Moore,I'm seeing in a couple of weeks.
Surtees =BRDC
Teddy Pilette is on Facebook
Colin Hyams i would try Mulliners in London the car RR/B people.

[Terry Walker]

Tim Slako:

www.westracing.com.au

And in phone book under that name.

Sue Johnson should be able to put you in contact with Howie Sangster and Don O'Sullivan as she got them both along to a WASCC reunion a while back. If you aren't on Speedwest forum, you should be - and Sue's on there too. I think both guys are on mobiles not landline these days, and not in phone book.

Edited by Terry Walker, 18 March 2011 - 05:56.

[Allen Brown]

I have a few of those. I'll send them by email Ray.

[David McKinney]

Will try and knock out a definitive list of NZ 5000 drivers (or outsiders who raced in NZ and not Oz)

If you're doing searches, hyou might have more luck looking for Stew McMillen than McMillan

[Ray Bell]

Is that my fault or did I merely transfer that from RCN?

Thanks Allen, Terry, Lola5000 and David, also Gavin and Ron who've e.mailed me. I've had a reply now from Dennis Marwood and one from Rex Ramsay. The responses are very slow coming through, but when they come they are good.

David... can I also ask you, when the original (1968) Bay Park Formula A race was put together, who was behind the move? In other words, who was it introduced F5000 to this part of the world?

[Allen Brown]

I've had an email from Stew McMillen this evening. Have you already contacted him?

[Allen Brown]

... who was it introduced F5000 to this part of the world?

Feo Stanton

[Ray Bell]

To be honest, Allen, while I'm away from home I'm not sure if I contacted Stew...

I don't think so. I have had contact with Rex and with Ron Grable from that first event, I don't think I got Stew's e.mail as yet, so if you can refer him to me that would be great.

Edited by Ray Bell, 19 March 2011 - 23:55.

[David McKinney]

Do you have a full entry-list for that meeting, Ray?

To expand on Allen's point, the race was put on by the Bay of Plenty Motor Racing Association, primarily Graham Pierce and Feo Stanton. As brash newcomers, they were not welcomed by the establishment, ie MANZ, who refused them Gold Star status for their first big meeting (December 1967). At the same time there was heated debate on what should replace the 2500 Tasman Formula, which was clearly coming to the end of its days. The BOPMRA were strong proponents of the 5-litre stock-block concept, and accordingly arranged the December 1968 Formula A race to showcase the cars for NZ spectators (and officialdom)

The crowd loved them and the rest, as they say, is history

[Ray Bell]

No, I don't think the full entry would have been mentioned in RCN, David...

But my interest is in F5000 cars, not necessarily those cars running against them.

By the way, when did Leo Geoghegan drive a F5000?

[bigears]

Is Steve Thompson the same person who driven a GRID sportscar in the early 1980s?

If so, could I have his email address or contact details please?

Thank you.

[Ray Bell]

Steve Thompson I have contacted... in fact, I've had the most complete contact with him of all the overseas drivers as we had a chat on skype and he had his webcam on...

He's giving me the details for his cousin, Alan Rollinson.

[Parkesi]

Hello Ray,

if it is still of interest for you:

Derekbellracing@cs.com

h.pescarolo@pescarolo.com
m.pescarolo@pescarolo.com (his wife Madie)

davidhobbs@davidhobbs.com
www.davidhobbs.com

Derek Bell is most charming & helpful. He took a lot of time to answer the questions regarding my research for a biography of Mike Parkes.
Pescarolo and Hobbs did not answer (yet?).

Regards, Andreas

[thunder427]

Ray,Bob Jane is very much in touch with Colin Hyams,through joint business interests.........I'm sure Bob would be happy to assist in your search....regards Myles/427

[Ray Bell]

Thank you, Andreas, very good...

I'll chase those up today.

Myles, I don't thing young Robert talks to me any more.

[Ray Bell]

Found a couple more I still need...

Mike Eyerly - was on the first list, lost sight of him
Malcolm Guthrie
R Galloway
B Brown - drove a T190 in '72