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#651 bub

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 19:31

Would be completely useless as a Hamilton replacement. Di Resta is a copy of Button. He's got nothing extra, doesn't do any exciting overtaking in a race. The last thing McLaren needs is two of those drivers. Pérez would be a far better choice if McLaren needs to replace Lewis.


How is Perez any less of a copy of Button and what does he have extra?

Edited by bub, 23 September 2012 - 23:38.


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#652 AdamM

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 19:53

Would be completely useless as a Hamilton replacement. Di Resta is a copy of Button. He's got nothing extra, doesn't do any exciting overtaking in a race. The last thing McLaren needs is two of those drivers. Pérez would be a far better choice if McLaren needs to replace Lewis.


Perhaps having two drivers of similar driving styles is a good thing, then the new car wouldn't have to be catering to two styles. Just a thought...


A good solid drive from PdR today, not that the haters will see that.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 19:55

Good drive, shame he is such a bore though, worse than Webber probably in that respect :-/

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 20:58

Good drive, shame he is such a bore though, worse than Webber probably in that respect :-/



Eh??? So who do you consider to be the prince of charisma in the paddock then? Genuinely intrigued.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 21:17

Eh??? So who do you consider to be the prince of charisma in the paddock then? Genuinely intrigued.


Vettel, Alonso Vettel jokes about Kimi's "I think so-accent" (Alonso and Vettel at Hockenheim 2010), Massa (Good job lad!) He passed me! and Hamilton (Because I'm Black) are all absolutely hilarious guys at times if you ask me ;) Kovalainen, Kobayashi and Ricciardo are quite fun guys as well. There are some!

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 22:47

Good drive, shame he is such a bore though, worse than Webber probably in that respect :-/


Oh for goodness sake, why is Paul di Resta a "bore"? Because he's quiet? Well so what if he's quiet, quiet people deserve success too. It really annoys me that some people expect F1 drivers to be "funny" crowd-pleasers. This is F1, not a cheap popularity contest.

Paul is a sweetie-pie and I think he has an excellent chance of being the next Scottish WDC. :love:

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:57

Great drive today. Really great.

The problem with the Autosport.com's overhyping is that his "grade" is not going to reflect how great today's drive was because they always give him a 9 anyway.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:31

Totally destroyed his teammate.

#659 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 17:55

How is Perez any less of a copy of Button and what does he have extra?

Pérez' driving style has more comparison to Hamilton's than Button's

Perhaps having two drivers of similar driving styles is a good thing, then the new car wouldn't have to be catering to two styles. Just a thought...


A good solid drive from PdR today, not that the haters will see that.

True, but what if the car is rubbish with that driving style? That means you have two victims and you're going nowhere.

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#660 bub

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 18:19

Pérez' driving style has more comparison to Hamilton's than Button's


Really? I haven't noticed that. Perhaps you could explain in Perez topic/thread.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:14

What a heartbreaking morning it must be for Di Resta. Joining Button's talent agency he must have thought that he would be first in line for Lew's seat but instead Mclaren seemed to have made their mind up long time ago so sign Perez. Could Sauber be an option for the Scott?

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:28

What a heartbreaking morning it must be for Di Resta. Joining Button's talent agency he must have thought that he would be first in line for Lew's seat but instead Mclaren seemed to have made their mind up long time ago so sign Perez. Could Sauber be an option for the Scott?


F1 is terribly fickle. I feel for him also, but (putting on my F1 boss hat) I would have probably gone with Perez too.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:38

F1 is terribly fickle. I feel for him also, but (putting on my F1 boss hat) I would have probably gone with Perez too.


Di Resta is a good driver but pairing him with Button would have been a disaster for Mclaren. You should always spread your bets by having drivers of different personalities and driving styles. During the past weeks Di Resta has been clamoring in the press for a top team, saying every week that he's ready. He only hope, albeit a slim one is Ferrari. If he has financial backing then Sauber is a good option for him.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:14

What a heartbreaking morning it must be for Di Resta. Joining Button's talent agency he must have thought that he would be first in line for Lew's seat but instead Mclaren seemed to have made their mind up long time ago so sign Perez. Could Sauber be an option for the Scott?



Not a real step forward. Looks as though he has no better option other than to stay with FI.

:well:

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:52

Not a real step forward. Looks as though he has no better option other than to stay with FI.

:well:


Replacing Mark Webber at the end of 2013 could be an option for him. If the wants that seat he will need to be more visible. He's great at scoring points and staying out of trouble, but that makes him an invisible average a bit like Rosberg. Therefore he might need to do fewer one-stoppers and work to beat his peers with the same strategy as them.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 14:41

Interesting that Di Resta has proven to be consistently closer to his own peak performance whereas Sergio has hit a very high peak on very few occasions. Would appear team bosses take more notice of peak performance over consistency in young drivers. You can learn consistency, you can't learn speed. Would explain how Massa stayed in F1 after his first season (or that his management was son of Jean Todt, hmm).

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 14:46

Perez is 22yrs old whereas Di Resta is 26.. in this case I find it understandable to look at Perez peak performance, there is lots of time for polish until he gets to same age as Di Resta..

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 14:56

Interesting that Di Resta has proven to be consistently closer to his own peak performance whereas Sergio has hit a very high peak on very few occasions. Would appear team bosses take more notice of peak performance over consistency in young drivers. You can learn consistency, you can't learn speed. Would explain how Massa stayed in F1 after his first season (or that his management was son of Jean Todt, hmm).


The doubts i have about Sergio are because his good results have mostly come when he tried a different strategy rather than out right speed. F1 is a fickle sport but i'd have taken Paul or Hulk over Sergio, its impossible to say whose quickest but i think they're both pretty quick and getting the most out of their car more than Sergio has. IMO his "peaks" are slightly distorted by strategy gambles.

As for Paul, if you look back over this thread its clear i'm a fan and , in my opinion, he's in the wrong place and the right time. Maybe the Merc or Mclaren drives could of been his but things haven't gone his way. I think he needs to get out of Fi sharpish, Vijay has big money problems and his career will lose momentum/get over taken by the next new kids on the block if he doesn't find a good drive somewhere else soon then oblivion/DTM/Le Mans awaits sadly.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:09

I like Paul and I admire him, but I must admit that he has been losing out to Hülkenberg since the middle of the season. PdR is a fast driver - although Hülk is quick too -, but he'd need to show it. I hope he'll have bigger luck in the forthcoming rounds.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:42

He has been poor in the last two races, Is it due to loosing Mcl seat to Perez affecting him mentally?

Edited by vas04614, 14 October 2012 - 11:43.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:18

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#672 David Lightman

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:55

I like Paul and I admire him, but I must admit that he has been losing out to Hülkenberg since the middle of the season. PdR is a fast driver - although Hülk is quick too -, but he'd need to show it. I hope he'll have bigger luck in the forthcoming rounds.

I'm genuinely not trolling here, but can you explain what you like and admire about Di Resta? What am I missing?

#673 athlon

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 13:26

I'm genuinely not trolling here, but can you explain what you like and admire about Di Resta? What am I missing?


He was pretty impressive in the DTM. I know that there is a huge bias towards him in the media, especially from the British press. But it's not his fault.

Edited by athlon, 14 October 2012 - 13:26.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 13:32

He is a lil too conservative in terms of racing IMO, mostly uses only DRS Zones for overtakes and if it doesn't work he is stuck in traffic even with faster car

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:51

I like Paul and I admire him, but I must admit that he has been losing out to Hülkenberg since the middle of the season. PdR is a fast driver - although Hülk is quick too -, but he'd need to show it. I hope he'll have bigger luck in the forthcoming rounds.


Hulkenberg has absolutely been the better of the two since Barcelona with the exception of Singapore. That's long before mid-season. Monza is the only unknown as his car broke in Q1.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 22:32

He is a lil too conservative in terms of racing IMO, mostly uses only DRS Zones for overtakes and if it doesn't work he is stuck in traffic even with faster car


Indeed he reminds me of Rosberg in that respect a big reason why neither will even be big favourites of mine. Hulkenburg is a real racing driver in the respect that he goes for gaps and will race, the same with Hamilton. Rosberg and Di Resta are not.

Edited by Les, 14 October 2012 - 22:33.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:42

Had any driver's stock taken as much of a hit as di Resta this year?

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:43

Had any driver's stock taken as much of a hit as di Resta this year?


Agreed. Whilst Hulk was fighting for the lead he was spinning and assaulting the armco.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:50

Had any driver's stock taken as much of a hit as di Resta this year?

In fairness, Grosjean and Perez have managed to go from zero to hero and then back to zero :p

But yes, his reputation has suffered and today's race was a big blow considering the one thing he's supposed to have going for him is consistently finishing. It seems laughable now that he was being linked to top seats at the start of the year. Unlike Hulkenberg, he hasn't done anything to prove they were wrong to pass him over.

The Rosberg comparison isn't a bad one - neither are particularly exciting to watch. I reckon Nico is a bit quicker though.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:52

Had any driver's stock taken as much of a hit as di Resta this year?


He was doing a very good job until Singapore, nip and tuck between him and the Hulk but since then the wheels have fallen of and The Hulk as been brilliant. I would say a combination of Hulk getting back to grips with F1 and DIR struggling with the more conservative compounds and the end of the year have widened the gap.

He's still a good driver IMO but the Hulk is a class act, genuine WDC material IMO.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 19:58

Had any driver's stock taken as much of a hit as di Resta this year?


Massa, Grosjean, Senna?

Edited by bub, 25 November 2012 - 19:59.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:01

Agreed. Whilst Hulk was fighting for the lead he was spinning and assaulting the armco.

Considering he was on a full dry set-up and Hulk was on a wet, and he only lost it on the penultimate lap in the most hostile conditions, that's hardly surprising. In the early part of the race Di Resta had risen to 6th and was looking good for better until he was pitted. And later he got Webbered.

Indeed one of the problems evaluating Hulk and Di Resta this season is that FI has had them on different strategies quite often.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:02

Had any driver's stock taken as much of a hit as di Resta this year?


IMO Rosberg's stock has dropped the most, but I see where you're coming from. Sutil performed better than Paul last year, but that was acceptable as Sutil was in his 5th season in F1 and di Resta in his first. Now he's paired with Hulkenberg, who is a year younger and has also just finished his second season of F1 (with a year in between as a third driver) and he has been outdone again.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:40

Massa, Grosjean, Senna?


Massa improved considerably, Grosjean demonstrated excellent pace and Senna's stock was never that high anyway. di Resta went backwards.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:42

Considering he was on a full dry set-up and Hulk was on a wet, and he only lost it on the penultimate lap in the most hostile conditions, that's hardly surprising. In the early part of the race Di Resta had risen to 6th and was looking good for better until he was pitted. And later he got Webbered.

Indeed one of the problems evaluating Hulk and Di Resta this season is that FI has had them on different strategies quite often.



I see what you mean but then it shows how much better Hulk is to have outqualified PDR on a wet set up.

Either way it seems he has another year to light some fires but if he doesn't I would think it's game over and back to DTM.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:42

Considering he was on a full dry set-up and Hulk was on a wet, and he only lost it on the penultimate lap in the most hostile conditions, that's hardly surprising. In the early part of the race Di Resta had risen to 6th and was looking good for better until he was pitted. And later he got Webbered.

Indeed one of the problems evaluating Hulk and Di Resta this season is that FI has had them on different strategies quite often.



I see what you mean but then it shows how much better Hulk is to have outqualified PDR on a wet set up.

Either way it seems he has another year to light some fires but if he doesn't I would think it's game over and back to DTM.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:43

Di Resta is all hype and no substance.

The heavy BBC bias really has caused more harm than good imo.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:49

dtm has 3 manufacturers now and is really big in germany...i think merc needs him there asap...

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 20:52

I see what you mean but then it shows how much better Hulk is to have outqualified PDR on a wet set up.

Either way it seems he has another year to light some fires but if he doesn't I would think it's game over and back to DTM.

Di Resta changed set-up post-qualifying. Yes, Hilk out-qualified him but in qualifying it's sometimes down to who gets out of the pits when.

I'd rather have Di Resta in my team than, say, Massa, Webber, Vergne, Pic, DLR, Karthikeyan, Maldonado, Senna, Pic, Petrov...



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Posted 25 November 2012 - 21:02

di resta is just hype unfortunately. decent driver but hasn't really shown anything.
massa and webber fought for wdc, maldonado has a race win

i'd take him over DLR because pedro hasn't shown anything even when given the chance.....obviously over karthikeyan....
Against Pic, Vergne or Senna? close call
against Petrov? I'd take Vitaly...

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 21:13

Is Di Resta confirmed at Force India for 2013?

On season showing Mallya needs two new drivers. His best one has moved on; this goose needs to be moved on.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 21:18

di resta is just hype unfortunately. decent driver but hasn't really shown anything.
massa and webber fought for wdc, maldonado has a race win

i'd take him over DLR because pedro hasn't shown anything even when given the chance.....obviously over karthikeyan....
Against Pic, Vergne or Senna? close call
against Petrov? I'd take Vitaly...


Senna, seriously?

#693 vas04614

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:39

Gary Anderson on Di Resta

Does Paul Di Resta have what it takes to win the world championship? ‏‪@Martin_Glass96‬
As a driver, Di Resta is as talented as necessary to win races. Whether he can win world championships or not, the biggest thing that lets him down is his attitude. In F1, if you're going to win the world title, you need everyone around you. Every member of the team needs to be pulling for you and really be on your side. And Paul doesn't know how to create that environment for himself. He has a lot to learn and he doesn't seem to be learning it.



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:23

note to moderators, i thought driver threads were banned ages ago, then how come this one is still running???


p.s this goes to show you how un-interested the forumers here are about PDiR, last post was 25th dec 2012 ... always under the radar :p

Edited by eronrules, 19 July 2013 - 05:23.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:45

Huh. It is a mystery. Maybe one day this is how he'll get to be WDC, inexplicably left to do his thing while all other drivers are defended against.

In the meantime, this Paul Di Resta thread does indeed have to close.