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#1 Gary C

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 20:04

OK everyone, this is my first thread.
I'm currently nearing the end of a restoration of a 1969 Nike Formula Ford which I bought from Bill Dolson Racing in the States two years ago. Now, I'm in contact with Ken Nicholls of Nike down in Devon, but I have absolutely NO information on the cars or the marque. Can anyone help? I have the Nicholson 'History of Formula Ford' book and Nike get about one and a half paragraghs and a pic. Anyone know anything else about them, or has any literature at all?
Anything would be appreciated.

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#2 cjpani

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 20:10

Gary:
Check this links out:
http://www.retro-rac...oracetrack2.htm
http://www.mclellans...eslit/nike.html
http://www.retro-rac...uk/features.htm
Regards,
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p.s. Welcome!!!!


#3 Gary C

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 20:21

Hi Cjpani, thanx for those links. Just to let you know, I'm one of the two guys who run the RetroRacing site!

#4 cjpani

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 20:22

lol....
not a deep research from myself....
well; no harm done.

regards,
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#5 Marcel Schot

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 20:29

Welcome Gary. Love your site :)

#6 Gary C

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 20:32

Marcel, thank you indeed

#7 Allen Brown

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 22:03

There's a little bit in the Motor Racing Directory (the first one) p34. I'll scan it for you tomorrow if nobody beats me to it.

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#8 Gary C

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Posted 09 January 2001 - 23:40

that would be brilliant Allen!

#9 Allen Brown

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Posted 10 January 2001 - 22:00

OK, here goes. I haven't tried posting an image before.

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It may be a bit big but I wanted to make sure you didn't have any trouble making out the text.

Here's the URL in case I haven't done it right.

http://www.oldracing...images/nike.jpg

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#10 Gary C

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Posted 11 January 2001 - 01:11

Fantastic Allen, many thanks!
Anything else anyone??

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Posted 25 January 2001 - 22:48

Allen, I've seen the Motor Racing Directory of 1979 and 1981 offered for very little money (3 GBP each). What's the difference, is there a point in ordering both?

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Posted 25 January 2001 - 23:50

I have both and as you say they aren´t too pricey.
The 1981 version is an update of the 1979 so if you would go for one, then that´s the one.
It is interesting to read about the not-yet-so-famous drivers in their infancy.

The information is not identical, and much of it are found elsewhere. But I have enjoyed my both books.

Rainer

#13 Allen Brown

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Posted 26 January 2001 - 10:41

Michael

I'd agree with Rainer. There are different features in the 1981 book and some of the details on obscure British series - from Kettlewell's own research - cannot be found elsewhere.

I'd guess they are 80% duplication but, for £6, I'd get both.

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#14 Gary C

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 18:23

Just thought I would ressurect this thread in case any 'newbies' might have any info. With any luck, I'll be out for the first time at Silverstone next Sunday the 18th.

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Posted 11 May 2003 - 12:36

Presume you have a Mk4 , the majority of the dozen or so made making their way across the pond. The 1970 Mk 6 was a redesigned '4 allowing for the use of a Hewland 'box. These were sold Stateside via Jim Baker of Atlanta, Ga. Hence they were also known as "Bakers".

A photo of the Mk 6 appears in Georgano's encyclopaedia (p555) with the Lotus-esque F5000 Mk5 in the background.

#16 Gary C

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Posted 11 May 2003 - 12:59

actually Bill, my car is designated a 'Mk4/6' (I have chassis no.6), is there any chance you could scan that page from the Georgano book for me??

#17 Allen Brown

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Posted 11 May 2003 - 19:15

Originally posted by bill moffat
Presume you have a Mk4 , the majority of the dozen or so made making their way across the pond. The 1970 Mk 6 was a redesigned '4 allowing for the use of a Hewland 'box. These were sold Stateside via Jim Baker of Atlanta, Ga. Hence they were also known as "Bakers".

A photo of the Mk 6 appears in Georgano's encyclopaedia (p555) with the Lotus-esque F5000 Mk5 in the background.

Caldwell used the name 'Nike' in the US as well (I think he kept renaming his cars because they didn't exactly have a good reputation). His F5000 Nike Mk 1A appeared just once, Laguna Seca 4 May 1969, finishing 10th, four laps down

Compared with the UK Nike Mk 5, this was major success! The poor Mk 5 was one of the most unsuccessful F5000 ever built. It appeared four times in 1970, failed to start three times and retired on the first laps of its only start. I don't have any further record of it - not even a hill climb.

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 09:47

Strange coincidences department. I was looking through the first edition of the Motor Racing Directory last night, came accross the Nike section, started thinking about a couple of things and now I go and find a scan of it on this thread.

Firstly, the Nike mk 10. I remember an immaculate dark blue one being driven rapidly, and with a quite a few wins to its credit, by John Simpson. This was in the mid-70s and mainly oop north, but I remember been taken with the novelty of the thing (there weren't many Nikes about) and the fact that it was a very nice looking and obviously competitive car so I was surprised that we didn't see more of them.

Secondly, this intriguing mk 8 monocoque car with a rotary engine, for use on the hills. Can anyone tell me more - one for Steve W perhaps?

#19 Gary C

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 09:59

Blimey!! :clap: My first ever thread on TNF, resurrected after six years!!!

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#20 ian senior

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 10:05

Originally posted by Gary C
Blimey!! :clap: My first ever thread on TNF, resurrected after six years!!!


I only did it for you, Gary, no other motive!

#21 Allen Brown

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 10:18

Originally posted by Gary C
Blimey!! :clap: My first ever thread on TNF, resurrected after six years!!!

And apparently the first time I ever posted an image on TNF as well. How time flies!

#22 Gary C

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 10:30

Thank you, Ian! :lol:

#23 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 14:26

Hi, I hope that this might help...
The picture is the Nike MK8, raced by Ray Davis in various events during the season ( I meet him at hillclimbs in Italy every year ). The picture was taken at Valsaviore Classic hillclimb last July.

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#24 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 14:32

Another one after the finish line :
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But, as you will notice, no more rotary engine on board !

#25 ian senior

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 14:54

Well, isn't that marvellous. Thanks Ralf! Shame about the engine, though.

#26 Mallory Dan

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 16:29

Ray Davis' Nike has really got me going........

#27 Gary C

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 16:30

I think Ray raced the car with the HSCC about 3 times in 2001...............haven't seen him since.

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 16:31

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Ray Davis' Nike has really got me going........


Funny...he more often sang about Lolas....

#29 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 16:35

I have to say - it is one of the best looking Formula cars I have seen - and Ray looks the part at demonstration events ( as they are officially called in Italy - means no timing but full throttle nevertheless ) with blue racesuit, open faced helmet with balaclava and goggles.
As for the engine change - I remember Ray telling me the story - but ( shame ) I do not remember. It is all written on the board in front of the car in the paddock photo, though.
I will ask him about the story, but you might have to wait until June/ Italy !!!

#30 Gary C

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 17:41

Ralf, go to these pages on my website for a look at my car :

http://www.users.glo...e_pix/index.htm

http://www.users.glo..._2001/index.htm

http://www.users.glo..._2002/index.htm

http://www.users.glo..._2003/index.htm

http://www.users.glo..._2003/index.htm

all the best!

#31 neotrack

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:21

Is there a regstery to know how many Nike's (or Baker's) are still up and running today?



#32 Gary C

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 14:15

not that I've ever heard of.



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Posted 21 February 2015 - 11:15

Caldwell used the name 'Nike' in the US as well (I think he kept renaming his cars because they didn't exactly have a good reputation). His F5000 Nike Mk 1A appeared just once, Laguna Seca 4 May 1969, finishing 10th, four laps down

Compared with the UK Nike Mk 5, this was major success! The poor Mk 5 was one of the most unsuccessful F5000 ever built. It appeared four times in 1970, failed to start three times and retired on the first laps of its only start. I don't have any further record of it - not even a hill climb.

Allen

I have just found this thread whilst looking for information about the Nike F5000 car. Quite frankly, I'm baffled. There appears to be contradicting information on the internet (now there's a surprise) and I hope the learned members of TNF can enlighten me.

 

The photo referred to in Georgano's Encyclopedia captions the car as the Mk5, but all other photos I have seen of that car show it with oil coolers mounted high behind the driver's roll hoop, and a slightly different shaped nose. I appreciate that the car pictured outside the Nike factory would have been in an untested form, and possibly there were alterations to its format before it commenced its competition career (sic). However, on a French website "classic-racing-experience,com" the same photo is repeated together with a claim that it was built by Nike as a commission for Ray Caldwell, taking part in a few races in the UK before being shipped to the US. This car was named the Mk1A, and is supposedly an altogether different car from the Gubbings-driven Mk5.

 

To make matters more complicated, there is another suggestion that it is in fact one of the Lotus 42 cars which were converted for F5000 use, and the work was carried out at the Nike premises. Help! Has anybody got information which might put this one to bed?

 

(I find it odd that Autodynamics were not capable of building their own car. The French site does not seem to be a spoof, but I do have doubts about their comments.)



#34 Gary C

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 19:29

gosh, my very first thread on TNF ressurected after 14 years !

#35 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 07:50

No FF, but front engined FJ - have seen this one a few weeks ago at Peter Denty´s workshop. A very nice looking car - and for sale, supposedly.

 

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Thought you might like to see that one.

 

Ralf



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Posted 22 February 2015 - 10:50

gosh, my very first thread on TNF ressurected after 14 years !

I'm pleased to be of service. My enquiry belongs I suppose, in the Historical Research forum, but since your old post directly related to my poser, I thought it best to re-open the thread.

 

I notice that the "oldracingcars" website has Nike (UK) and Nike(US) listed as competitors in 1968/69, and I wonder if this is a reference to the understanding that Caldwell built and raced a car under that name. It seems increasingly likely that this car had nothing to do with Ken Nicholls.