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#1 TDC

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 03:57

Cool sim and cool video

Full disclosure, my son makes the CXC simulator. :) TC

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#2 DanardiF1

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 05:13

Cool sim and cool video

Full disclosure, my son makes the CXC simulator. :) TC


That, is, badass.



#3 klyster

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 19:31

Awesome!

#4 Callisto

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 21:22

Wkd vid and chair :up:

#5 TDC

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 22:59

Quite Honestly, I'm trying to convince my son to contribute to this forum, as he really can add value. Trouble is, he has many pro drivers as clients and friends and regularly reads the racing parts of the site. And he's afraid that posting here, as he does now for various Ferrari clubs, etc., would appear too much like he's trying to sell. I only showed my post to him after the fact. TC

#6 baddog

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 04:45

Well if he restricts himself to saying how much f1-2010 and GT5 sucks he will fit right in!

Nah seriously though, no reason at all not to post, if he isnt comfortable talking directly about his products then Im sure people will respect that and leave that subject for private communications. I make games and have never stayed away from game forums, its just a matter of being thoguhtful and professional about the work side of things, which Im sure he is anyway.

#7 TDC

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 05:05

Well if he restricts himself to saying how much f1-2010 and GT5 sucks he will fit right in!

Nah seriously though, no reason at all not to post, if he isnt comfortable talking directly about his products then Im sure people will respect that and leave that subject for private communications. I make games and have never stayed away from game forums, its just a matter of being thoguhtful and professional about the work side of things, which Im sure he is anyway.



I'm going to send him this entire string, after which it's up to him..

Thanks, all, just thought it was worth seeing. TC

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 14:29

Great video, thanks for sharing. CXC is over in Marina Del Rey in CA, right? My wife used to work right down the street from there. Great area, too much traffic, awesome mexican food joint up the street (the way my mind maps the world).

Man, I know when I win the lottery I will for sure getting myself one of those bad boys. So cool!!

Thanks again for sharing. Please tell your son he makes some great lookin' toys.

Edited by xbook, 08 February 2011 - 14:30.


#9 A3

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 07:39

I'll test one, free of charge.  ;)

#10 OssieFan

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 07:01

I want one now!

#11 AshMcConnell

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 22:07

Cool sim and cool video

Full disclosure, my son makes the CXC simulator. :) TC


Thats fantastic. Hopefully I can make ORC support CXC when the time comes, looks like a great system.

All the best,
Ash

Edited by AshMcConnell, 11 February 2011 - 22:08.


#12 Souffle

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 01:46

Before I add a view to the site, is this a P.C. or kids console sim.?

#13 klyster

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:29

Only rich kids ;) Powered by PC.

#14 TDC

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 07:24

Well, in as much as they cost from $30K to $50K, I'm told the majority of non-racer or team buyers are not exactly poor, though their UPS driver has tried it, brought his wife in, and is talking about getting one. As a former racer and car owner, I think it's amazingly affordable, and actually, a money saver. But again, the maker is my son :). To see less biased opinions, i.e. what racers and customers say, go to the CXC Simulations site. I freely admit, I'm prejudiced. TC

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:58

Thanks for the kind words guys! (and dad)

Here's an F1 video for you as well.

#16 klyster

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 05:12

Congratulations on an amazing product :up:

I'll give you a ring when I win Lotto :lol:

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 09:59

I have enough trouble with the stuff I do own taking up half the house.. can you imagine what I would get if I turned up with one of those beauties eheh?

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 14:37

Been looking at this, and its amazing - very nice. But if I maybe, ask to questions?

1) The motion of the seat, would that not be better to have movement of the wheel and peddles as well?, from the F1 2010 video, there is loads of movement going on, but the wheel is stationery and I would think your brain would recognise this irregularity?

2) Would the use of bezel-less screens be better?

#19 MaxScelerate

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 17:14

Bezel-less screens, do they exist? Or maybe using some fresnel lense?

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#20 baddog

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 21:07

Been looking at this, and its amazing - very nice. But if I maybe, ask to questions?

1) The motion of the seat, would that not be better to have movement of the wheel and peddles as well?, from the F1 2010 video, there is loads of movement going on, but the wheel is stationery and I would think your brain would recognise this irregularity?


I think that moving only the seat is because the intention is to simulate forces not actual movement. The idea is that you dotn SEE the movement you feel it. If you move the whole cockpit but the screen stays still and you can see the surroundings that would likely create a very odd impression indeed.

You can move the whole thing, and this would give the very best effect possible (as in full simulators) but that would mean making a closed module to sit in, and moving the entire visible environment of the driver including the screens. This would multiply the cost of the unit by many times.

#21 klyster

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 05:41

Bezel-less screens, do they exist? Or maybe using some fresnel lense?



These are pretty sweet, but the price isn't ;)

Alienware did one a few years ago

LG have a nice new model too ;)

Edited by klyster, 17 February 2011 - 05:43.


#22 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 08:24

Moving the seat is actually interesting, because in terms of driver feel you have two sensations. Lateral acceleration, which can really only be simulated if the entire rig moves laterally instead of tipping/rolling. I had about 3 laps in one that did and the feeling was incredible and 100% accurate, but for the G forces not being as high as a real car. Took up an incredible amount of room though.

The second sensation is what the driver's body actually goes under. Despite being absolutely strapped down by the belts, to the point where it hurts your collar bone, your body does twist a fair bit. So as you go around the corner your body is shifting, ever so slightly. Yet the wheel and pedals are still stationary. And if your belt is even fractionally loose, you literally have to use the steering wheel just to hold yourself up right.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 01:48

Been looking at this, and its amazing - very nice. But if I maybe, ask to questions?

1) The motion of the seat, would that not be better to have movement of the wheel and peddles as well?, from the F1 2010 video, there is loads of movement going on, but the wheel is stationery and I would think your brain would recognise this irregularity?

2) Would the use of bezel-less screens be better?


1) A very good question and one we get asked all the time. Our quick answer is, try other systems, then try the Motion Pro II - or ask anyone who has. The answer will be quickly obvious. But it's a legitimate and logical question. I won't bore you with details here, but if you're really interested in the practical research and theory behind it, check out: http://www.cxcsimula...m/how-it-feels/ Then look at the testimonials of the race car drivers who use our simulators to train: http://www.cxcsimula.../driver-quotes/

2) All of the bezel-less screens (or even bezel-lite) have major compromises in either panel quality, screen size or response times. All bad traits for simulator screens. Trust me, we test new screens and display technologies on a constant basis.




#24 SPBHM

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 23:40

very nice, you should make a video with Richard Burns Rally

#25 A3

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 18:06

Then look at the testimonials of the race car drivers who use our simulators to train: http://www.cxcsimula.../driver-quotes/


Justin Wilson

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..the best simulator I've ever driven. The way it moves and even picks up track surfaces adds a whole new dimension.


So how does that work? As far as I know, only iRacing (aside from raly games) has laser scanned tracks that gives correct feedback regarding track surface changes, correct?

#26 ChrisCXCsimulations

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 05:34

So how does that work? As far as I know, only iRacing (aside from raly games) has laser scanned tracks that gives correct feedback regarding track surface changes, correct?


Actually, there are a few others that have laser scanned tracks and high fidelity physics models, but iRacing remains the favorite "consumer accessible" package. Our simulator comes pre-loaded with a variety of software to enable our customers the power of choice. iRacing is one of my personal favorites.


#27 A3

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 09:14

Yeah mine too, but I'll have to do with a crappy Logitech Momo wheel.;)

#28 ChrisCXCsimulations

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 19:24

Porsche factory driver Patrick Long stopped by the shop recently. I thought you guys might enjoy the story and pictures: http://www.cxcsimula...cing-simulator/

We were really honored he decided to pay us a visit and we look forward to seeing him again!!