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#51 David Lawson

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 07:39

I made some 1/43rd scale models during the early to mid 1990s but then drifted away from them and resumed the slot car hobby.

Some years earlier though my very first metal kit was in fact F.D.S. No:35 which was the 1976 Ferraro 312T2 which I bought at the model shop at Brands Hatch during the British Grand Prix weekend that year and I remember thinking £5.00 was a lot to pay for a very basic kit.

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I found the model yesterday buried in my pile of boxes and thought it might be of interest to 1/43 collectors on TNF.

I've photographed it alongside Tameo's Williams FW15C No:TMK 167 which I built 17 years later, this illustrates the advances in the white metal kit market during that time. The Ferrari is a very crude kit and it doesn't help that I painted it free hand with Humbrol tinlet paints as opposed to masking and spraying the Williams...

It is a shame that Grand Prix Models has moved from St Albans, even though it was a 60 mile round trip from home I used to enjoy visiting the shop most Saturdays to buy my next kit.

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#52 Tonecas

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 06:49

Hi David
I also have a few FDSs in my collection from that time, tey are: Ferrari 365 P, #116; Ferrari 308 turbo Gr. 5 #621; Porsche 911 Carrera RSR turbo #609 and Porsche 935/76 Kremer K2–Vaillant #52 (you can see them in the marque’s folder in my Windows’ Life photo album at http://cid-0b28de878...../1-43 Models). They were reasonably good for the time, but crude per today’s standards. As a note I did not pay £5.00 but around $20 Canadian (which at the time was about £10.00) so you had a good deal.
Concerning the Ferrari 312T2 I have one made by Fabbri (#27 of the Fabbri Ferrari collection), that you can also see in the album above or in one of my blogs, the “Ferrari F1 1949-2000” at http://143ferrarif1.blogspot.com/
Just as a final note I presume that the St. Albans that you talk about is in UK not New England USA.
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#53 David Lawson

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:55

Tonecas

I am in the UK and St. Albans is in Hertfordshire.

Regarding the price of the FDS kit, I have a vague memory (not sure how accurate) that £5.00 could have bought me a 1/12th scale Tamiya back in 1976

David

#54 Tony Lethbridge

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 08:39

You are right, David. I bought a Lotus 72 kit for a fiver that year, and in the early eighties a Tyrell six wheeler for four quid in Debenham's sale! There was a big pile of them. Must get round to building both kits sometime.

#55 David Lawson

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 20:40

I've still got my Tamiya Lotus 72 that I built back in the 1970s, of all the 1/12 kits I built it is the only survivor, but like you Tony I still have a pile of 1/12s still unbuilt in their boxes which don't get any nearer to being assembled as the years pass...

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#56 Tony Lethbridge

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 07:35

What a beautiful model, David. That has made me think about digging mine out and having another go. It may be easier than the 1/43 Renaissance Ferrari 1958 TR that I'm battling with at present. Actually I'm not, as I currently have one wrist in plaster having crashed out of a family walk on Dartmoor. The Ferrari sits on the work bench mocking me. Not a job for a one handed modeller!

#57 Tonecas

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 21:49

Hi everybody,
Finally I finished one of my ongoing projects. Some time ago I bought a second FLY F003 Lola T70 Mk.2 with the purpose of transforming it into a Lola T70 Mk.3B (s/n: SL73/124) that was raced by Roger Penske in 1967.
Next picure shows the original car on the left and the Penske car on the right. The Sunoco decals on the front fenders are not representative of the real car, but when there is not available we must improvise, anyway is close enough... :cool:
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For more information visit my blog at: http://143canamandusrrc.blogspot.com/ and scroll down..


#58 Barry Boor

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 22:28

Not having a huge amount of space to exhibit my 43rd scale collection I take them out of their boxes and line them up, two deep, on a series of shelves.

Now, as I am almost certain to be moving house - to another country - I've got to put the thick end of 400 models back in their boxes.

Trust me, it takes a VERY LONG TIME!

#59 Tonecas

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 23:03

Not having a huge amount of space to exhibit my 43rd scale collection I take them out of their boxes and line them up, two deep, on a series of shelves.

Now, as I am almost certain to be moving house - to another country - I've got to put the thick end of 400 models back in their boxes.

Trust me, it takes a VERY LONG TIME!

I believe you because I moved 10 years ago with 800 and it was a real big job. Now I am up to the 1200 models and I do not intend to move (see the display in my living room, in the 1st post of page 1).
I wish you courage!! :)

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#60 D-Type

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 20:44

Not having a huge amount of space to exhibit my 43rd scale collection I take them out of their boxes and line them up, two deep, on a series of shelves.

Now, as I am almost certain to be moving house - to another country - I've got to put the thick end of 400 models back in their boxes.

Trust me, it takes a VERY LONG TIME!

If you feel any of them won't travel, I know a good home for them.

With somewhat fewer models than you I use "Picture Pride" glass fronted display cabinets. The main feature ofthe cabinets they do is that they have sloping shelves - it shows off the models far better, but, as I found to my cost, you have to use bits of fuse wire wrapped round the two uphill wheels to stop them sliding off the shelves. Thank heavens for 'Araldite'

Edited by D-Type, 29 October 2011 - 00:10.


#61 Tonecas

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 21:17

Hi,
I do not know what "Picture Pride glass" is! Is it the frosty ones?
About cabinets with sloping shelves, I agree that it shows off the models far better, but somehow the models have to be stopped from sliding off the shelves, and having them tied up by the rear wheels must be a nightmare for the anual cleaning.
Concerning surplus , yes I have a couple of hundred, that are either repeats or not fitting my collection themes.

#62 RCH

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 07:08

Picture Pride Cabinets:
http://www.picture-p...displays.co.uk/

Just pity the poor dealer who after a bad day at a fair has to rebox all those models in the shortest possible time... particularly after somewhere like Goodwood when they are bound to be thick with dust.

#63 Tonecas

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:34

Thanks for the info, these kind of cabinets also exist here in Canada, but they are good for a small number of pieces. Now if we talk 1200 1/43 models it would cover all my walls for sure.


#64 Tonecas

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 22:01

Finally I completed my 1/43 McLaren M1B model kit (Marsh Models, Ref.: MM049) and it is already in page 2 of my blog about CanAm and USRRC competition http://143canamandusrrc.blogspot.com/
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Feels good to finish it - :stoned:

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#65 David Beard

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 18:15

My Lotus 16 on the kitchen table. Not constructed by Chapman and his team at Hornsey, but by a well known TNFer on Anglesey

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#66 Tonecas

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 18:20

Hi,
Just a question - Is it a 1/43 scale model?
If it is, it is pretty good!

#67 David Beard

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 18:24

Hi,
Just a question - Is it a 1/43 scale model?
If it is, it is pretty good!


Yes, assembled by a bloke who knows what he is doing!



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Posted 28 October 2011 - 20:31

Picture Pride cabinets mentoned above highly recomended

#69 Tonecas

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 16:49

I just finished this DAM resin kit of the Matra 660 that entered at Le Mans in 1970. I searched the net to find the position of the aileron in the back of the car but it was not conclusive. There were several pictures of a model that showed in the position that I ended up placing it but I still am not sure. Any comments / clarifications...

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#70 Tim Murray

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 17:45

I don't think this will help much:

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#71 Tonecas

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 21:58

Thank you but I also have that picture, but we do not see the rear quite well

#72 Tonecas

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 15:35

Hi everybody
Does anyone know if there is a model of a Mercedes-Benz C280 (2001 -2006) in 1/43 scale?
Any help is apreciated.
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#73 Kitkent

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 10:39

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Hi everybody
Does anyone know if there is a model of a Mercedes-Benz C280 (2001 -2006) in 1/43 scale?
Any help is apreciated.

Hi Tonecas,I should think that only Minichamps have made this actual model. Last week I got given a brochure for Mecedes models,but this went in the recycling bin. They have a website too, Merc Models? Wish I had seen this question last weekend!


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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:11

Don't know if my question is applicable to this thread or not, but hey ho...

Can anyone explain, to a model collecting novice like myself, why the latest replicas cost so much to buy?

The recent Minichamps 1:43 models for example retail at almost £50 which is absurd. I recall that just three or four years ago they were much more affordable at almost half the price?

Are they now made from gold and woven unicorn hair?

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:59

Can anyone explain, to a model collecting novice like myself, why the latest replicas cost so much to buy?


Most model companies have their models made in China, and because China has been buying up most of the scrap metal in the world for the past several years the price has gone through the roof. One of the China factories has recently closed and at least three model companies lost the tooling for their models, I think Minichamps was one of them.

Edit, Just checked with a friend, the companies affected are Truescale, Biante and Schuco.

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#76 jj2728

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 13:07

Most model companies have their models made in China, and because China has been buying up most of the scrap metal in the world for the past several years the price has gone through the roof. One of the China factories has recently closed and at least three model companies lost the tooling for their models, I think Minichamps was one of them.

Edit, Just checked with a friend, the companies affected are Truescale, Biante and Schuco.


From what I understand, TRUESCALE wasn't as affected as BIANTE and SCHUCO. I also read that MINICHAMPS have cancelled 60 upcoming models.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 23:23

We have seen something similar before in the early 90's, the names escape me (was it Quartzo and another company?) when they set out to produce every car on the F1 grid for every season. Pretty soon the economy turned south, people ran out of space on their shelves, and nobody could keep up with the latest releases anyway. Too many things to collect, built and sold on a tight budget, it has always been thus.

Steve

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#78 Tonecas

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 23:36

We have seen something similar before in the early 90's, the names escape me (was it Quartzo and another company?) when they set out to produce every car on the F1 grid for every season. Pretty soon the economy turned around, people ran out of space on their shelves, and nobody could keep up with the latest releases anyway. Too many things to collect, built and sold on a tight budget, it has always been thus.

Steve


The name of the Company that was set out to produce every car on the F1 grid for every season was "Onyx" (I have a few) and it was also set to produce them at a very afordable prices. Quartzo was also started at the same time but focussed specificaly on Rally cars (I also have a few). Both companies were part of the group Vitesse with headquarters in Portugal before it was sold to the chinese.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 22:11

Onyx, thats the one!

cheers
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#80 D-Type

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 23:23

My current gripe. In the days when both Onyx and Minichamps modelled the field, it was possible for the family to buy me the new world champ's car for Christmas. Nowadays, Vettel's 2010 race car has just been issued and will no doubt be in my Christmas stocking but all that is available for 2011 is the show car, which is a 2010 or earlier car decked out in the 2011 livery. Presumably we will have to wait until the show car sells out before they will issue the race car.
And the ever-rising prices.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 23:54

My current gripe. In the days when both Onyx and Minichamps modelled the field, it was possible for the family to buy me the new world champ's car for Christmas. Nowadays, Vettel's 2010 race car has just been issued and will no doubt be in my Christmas stocking but all that is available for 2011 is the show car, which is a 2010 or earlier car decked out in the 2011 livery. Presumably we will have to wait until the show car sells out before they will issue the race car.
And the ever-rising prices.


Happy Christmas none the less, Duncan.

(PS - a post like this would never be permitted in another sub-forum of which we wot - :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: )

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#82 fatbaldbloke

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 12:08

The price rises are down to a combination of factors. Material cost is a significant one but so is currency exchange. Four years ago £1 would but you 2.05 US Dollars, 16 Hong Kong Dollars, 228 Yen or 1.40 Euros. At today's commercial rate it buys 1.51 USD, 11 HKD, 118 Yen and 1.12 Euro.

#83 Louis Mr. F1

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 16:53

I'd like to share some of my recent acquisitions with fellow forumers:

this Ferrari 641 model is a Tameo kit in 1:43rd scale, it's built by a professional builder in Asia and I added the 2 Ferrari driver figurines to give a little bit of a diorama feel. The white metal figurines are manufactured by Omen (painted by myself) and the driver decal is by MSM Creation that I got it from eBay. I then purchased a Rosso 1/43 Ferrari 641/2 plastic model and used the engine parts for this diorama, rounding out the whole thing, is the display label which I designed myself and created by my wife.

I hope you guys would like it - sorry about the lighting of these pictures, I wish I have a better camera.

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#84 Tonecas

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 19:55

Great stuff, keep on going... :clap:

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 11:33

Here is the 1:43 McLaren MP4/6 (Tameo Kit) with Senna figurine (which I painted myself), the display label is inspired by the McLaren transporter livery and created by my wife.

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#86 David Lawson

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 13:00

This is the Tameo Kits (TMK 180) Williams Renault FW16 Brazilian Grand Prix 1994.

I built the kit "out of the box" without any extra detailing which shows just how nice these kits are.

I bought a display box and sprayed the base in the colours of the Brazilan flag and painted a driver figure
which I think was from the Denizen range

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#87 Kitkent

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 09:34

Excellent 1/43 modelling! I keep meaning to do the above to add to my kits,got me thinking now....do you still make 1/43 kits now David?

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 16:47

do you still make 1/43 kits now David?


I was always a plastic kit maker until the early 1990s when I set out to build a model of each of the Lotus Grand Prix cars and it was only in 1/43 scale that this was possible.

I bought them all and built about 75% of them but then found myself buying some other 1/43 scale kits of certain cars that took my fancy, this distracted me from finishing the Lotus collection and by then I was drawn back to slot cars so to this day I have a pile of half finished and un-started 1/43 kits.

Here are a few of the kits I managed to finish.

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Tameo Jordan 194

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Tameo Ligier JS41

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Tenariv Lola T70

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SMTS Lotus 33

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SMTS Lotus 49

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SRC Lotus 78

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SRC Lotus 79

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Tameo Lotus 99

Perhaps in my retirement I will finally get back to the 1/43s if my eyes still allow me to work on such small models...

David

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:01

I am retired,a bit early I might add but still don't seem to find enough time to build everything I imagined. I have put some of my F1 models in an older thread of F1 models,but will add some sportscars,Le Mans etc. on this one. Love the Ligier and Jordan above,nostalgia already....The Ferrari and Mclaren dioramas have certainly given me something to think about too,a great idea.

#90 Kitkent

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:06

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Cunningham Jaguars at Le Mans..........

#91 Louis Mr. F1

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 12:38

That's indeed a very beautiful Jordon model, one that I've always wanted and I could only imagine very hard to build.

Two Jaguars ...... Woohooo, more please


#92 Louis Mr. F1

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 13:09

The more I look at the black JPS Lotus models, the more classy it looks to me.


#93 D-Type

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 20:09

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Cunningham Jaguars at Le Mans..........

Is the left hand one a "Might have been" - a Cunningham XJ13?

#94 Kitkent

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 21:34

Oh yes,definitely a 'whatif' from Le Mans 66.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 15:30

Here is another 1:43rd diorama from the 87 San Marino GP where Senna scored his only pole position of the season - Lotus 99T is a Tameo kit, Senna figurine from Omen and Lotus mechanic figurines from Denizen. Label designed by myself and created by my wife.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 07:33

Sorry if this has been covered before, but is there a 1/43 diecast of Bruce McLaren's winning Cooper T60 from the 1962 Monaco GP?

Vince H.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 08:53

Posted Image Cooper Bristol made from a K and R replicas kit with a 4 spoke steering wheel..Mike Hawthorn figure is an Omen miniatures figure. Have tried to make my pictures smaller than the Jags above,I think they're too big!

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 11:49

[Have tried to make my pictures smaller than the Jags above,I think they're too big!

Hi, How did you shrunk the picture? I also have the same problem when I post a picture. Thanks :wave:

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 21:55

A 1:43rd diorama with the 1985 Lotus 97T

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 13:19

Sorry if this has been covered before, but is there a 1/43 diecast of Bruce McLaren's winning Cooper T60 from the 1962 Monaco GP?

Vince H.



SPARK makes a 1960 Monaco GP McLaren Cooper T53.