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[Makarias]

Welcome to join season four of Shareholders!

"Business" pretty much as usual except for
A RULE CHANGE!
The limit for how many shares you may own in one single driver is now 40. Previously it was 50, which could be used to make the rule of owning shares in three drivers nearly useless.



The text below is still a lame copy-paste from previous years. It might make little sense to most people, so if you have any questions about the rules just go ahead and ask and I shall try to answer in some kind of intelligible way (yeah right!)...

Concept of the game
The players will be owning "shares" of the drivers participating in the F1 WDC!

A player will score points when a driver he/she holds an interest in scores points in a race.

Drivers are valued according to how much shares are invested in them:
-Frontrunning drivers get many shares and are expected to score often and highly, providing a steady points source but with little potential for real jackpots.
-Backmarkers get proportionally fewer shares and give a return less frequently, but when they do it they may be very rewarding as the dividends are shared by fewer shares.

Good "value for money" is investing in drivers that are undervalued, ie have disproportionally few shares invested in them compared to their actual points scoring potential.

Some pros for the game:
+ Easy entry format.
+ Editing entry for each round is optional, as the old entry carries over as it is otherwise.
+ Exciting scoring system making even backmarkers interesting for the game.
+ It is run by Makarias.

Some cons for the game:
- You initially won't know what value a driver will provide; I will however continually provide updates before the start of the season with the values for the drivers as entries (hopefully) roll in.
- As the entry rolls over from one round to the next, players need to keep track of their own share portfolios. Writing down for yourself what your current portfolio looks like is recommended, so you know what you've got.

I will provide data after each round that will help you analyze which drivers are worth investing in.

Submitting an initial entry

The first time you play this game, you shall submit an entry where you place 100 shares among the drivers, fulfilling these conditions:

* You may only hold 100 shares (or less, which doesn't help you) in total at a time.
* You can not own fractions of a share, just integer shares.
* You can place no more than 40 shares on any one driver.
* You must own shares in at least three drivers.
* You may not own shares in more than ten drivers.
* You may edit your first entry as much as you like until the edit deadline (first free practice) for the coming race.

Note that there is no limit to the number of shares available for each driver.
Also note that your initial entry is the basis for the following rounds too! You'll be allowed to change no more than 20 shares before each race, so make sure your initial entry looks at least 80% respectable...

Since nobody initially knows what the playing field looks like before the first race, I will give several updates on what the total share distribution looks like among the entries submitted so far.

Entry Example A:
Massa 37
Hamilton 22
Kovalainen 16
Webber 12
Vettel 10
Button 3

Editing your entry after the first round it takes part in
* After the first race your entry took part in, you may only change 20 of your shares at a time (for the next race).
* You do not have to edit your entry at all! If you so wish, you can leave your entry as it is from race one and not make a single change throughout the season. This is however a lazy option that won't make you ultimately competitive.
* If a driver is replaced -temporarily or permanently- during the season, the shares placed on him will automatically be transferred to the replacing driver. So you could say that the shares actually are attached to the car number.
* You may edit your changes as much as you like until the edit deadline for the coming race.
* Edit deadline for changes is the beginning of first free practice for each race.

Example B:
After the first race, the shareholder who submitted the entry in Example A realizes that Red Bull stink infinitely, and submits an edit to her entry as follows:

She decides to Sell:
Webber -10
Vettel -10

She decides to Buy:
Alonso +10
Hamilton +5
Kovalainen +5

Her new "portfolio" will after the entry look like this:
Massa 37
Hamilton 27
Kovalainen 21
Alonso 10
Button 3
Webber 2

The above change of shares can perhaps best be written like this:
Massa 37
Hamilton 27 (+5)
Kovalainen 21 (+5)
Alonso 10 (+10)
Button 3
Webber 2 (-10)
Vettel 0 (-10)

An edit doesn't have to look just like above, any way is fine as long as it's easy to understand which driver shares are to be sold and which to be bought.

NOTE: I will only sporadically be posting updates on what each player's portfolio looks like, so remember to keep track of what you own!
The reason you're only allowed to change just 20 shares each round is that it adds some stability to the whole system: I hopefully won't get a nervous breakdown before every round, and the values for each driver won't move around all over the place from one round to the other. It will also force the players to think more long term with their investments.
Keep in mind that when there are shares removed from a driver, the potential return from the shares that remain will increase and vice versa. Holding many shares in a backmarker is an inefficient investment, as for each extra share you get your ownership percentage won't increase by much.

Points Scoring

*The score a player receives from a driver is calculated like this:

[DScore] = 9.92*[TShares]*[DRace]*[PDShares]/[DShares]

where
[TShares] = The total number of shares in the entire game at the moment
[DRace] = The number of points the driver in question scored in the race
[PDShares] = The number of shares the player owns in the driver
[DShares] = The total number of shares owned in the driver in question by ALL players.

In order to only mess around with integer scores, the 9.92*[TShares]/[DShares] factor will be rounded off DOWN to the nearest integer. This factor equals the amount of game points one share will give per WDC point scored by the driver in question.

*The player's total score of the round is simply the sum of the [DScore] values from all drivers.

Thanks to the 9.92 factor, and the [TShares] factor scaling scores up with the amount of players, an average total score for a round will always be around 100,000 points or 1000 points per share, regardless of the number of players. At least if there are shares owned in all points scoring drivers.

Example C:
Felipe Massa finishes 2nd in a race; there are 30 players in the game all with 100 shares each; 400 of all shares are placed on Massa. The entry in example B will then score approxrimately

9.92*3000*18*37/400 points, which with the rounding off will amount to exactly 49284 points. A good result from 37 shares. 400/3000 shares would mean a driver is valued at 13.4666... points per race, and second place obviously is better than that.

[Makarias]

My initial entry, very likely to change before the season starts:

Alonso 22
Webber 21
Rosberg 17
Vettel 16
Schumacher 12
Alguersuari 6
Buemi 6

[Wlleiotl]

Webber 20
Vettel 20
Buemi 15
Kobayashi 15
Rosberg 10
Barrichello 10
Alonso 10

[KWSN - DSM]

Schumacher - 25
Alonso - 25
Vettel - 20
Massa - 10
Webber -10
Rosberg -10

[Crazy Canuck]

Vett 35
Alon 30
Webb 30
Alge 5

[Nustang70]

Barrichello 40
Kobayashi 30
Trulli 30

Edited by Nustang70, 18 March 2011 - 00:52.

[Apex]

Alguersuari 10
Buemi 10
Hamilton 10
Button 10
Perez 10
Maldonado 10
Vettel 10
Massa 10
Rosberg 10
Heidfeld 10

[Estwald]

Alonso 20
Vettel 20
Schumacher 20
Barrichello 20
Heidfeld 20

[Ali_G]

Vettel - 30
Rosberg - 18
Alonso - 20
Schumacher - 18
Webber - 9
Sutil - 5

[jeze]

Hamilton 20
Heidfeld 20
Alonso 20
Alguersuari 20
Kobayashi 10
Barrichello 10

[theTardis]

Heidfeld - 30
Alonso - 19
Vettel - 18
Webber - 10
Button - 10
Barrichello - 10
Perez - 3

[fisichella_2001]

10 - S Vettel
10 - F Alonso
10 - N Rosberg
10 - L Hamilton
10 - K Kobayashi
10 - J Alguersuari
10 - M Webber
10 - R Barrichello
10 - N Heidfeld
10 - M Schumacher

[Costaz]

Vettel 30
Alonso 30
Kobayashi 20
Barrichello 10
Rosberg 10

[Makarias]

Current ratings:

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Vettel 209 16.24 308.52 61 10
Alonso 206 16.00 304.09 62 10
Webber 135 10.49 199.28 95 8
Barrichello 125 9.71 184.52 103 8
Heidfeld 110 8.55 162.38 117 6
Kobayashi 85 6.60 125.47 151 5
Rosberg 85 6.60 125.47 151 7
Schumacher 85 6.60 125.47 151 5
Hamilton 57 4.43 84.14 226 4
Alguersuari 51 3.96 75.28 252 5
Massa 43 3.34 63.47 299 3
Buemi 31 2.41 45.76 416 3
Trulli 30 2.33 44.28 429 1
Button 20 1.55 29.52 644 2
Perez 13 1.01 19.19 992 2
Maldonado 10 0.78 14.76 1289 1
Sutil 5 0.39 7.38 2579 1
d'Ambrosio 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0
di Resta 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0
Glock 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0
Karthikeyan 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0
Kovalainen 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0
Liuzzi 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0
Petrov 0 0.00 0.00 N/A 0

Still early days, obviously...

[sir jackie walker]

Pérez 15
Alguersuari 20
Petrov 20
Massa 20
Kovalainen 5
Vettel 20

[mark f1]

Vettel 15
Webber 20
Rosberg 15
Schumacher 10
Alonso 15
Massa 5
Heidfeld 10
Hanilton 10

[Anderis]

New entry few posts below.

Edited by Anderis, 23 March 2011 - 13:46.

[Makarias]

Anderis: 110 shares! I can't accept that entry as of now.

I change my portfolio big time:

Webber 34
Rosberg 18
Massa 16
Schumacher 14
Hamilton 13
di Resta 1
d'Ambrosio 1
Glock 1
Karthikeyan 1
Liuzzi 1

Note to self: make your own sum right when posting remarks on other people's sums...

Edited by Makarias, 23 March 2011 - 07:54.

[Makarias]

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Vettel 228 15.35 291.69 65 11
Alonso 199 13.40 254.59 74 10
Webber 168 11.31 214.93 88 9
Barrichello 125 8.42 159.92 119 8
Heidfeld 120 8.08 153.52 124 7
Rosberg 101 6.80 129.21 147 8
Schumacher 97 6.53 124.10 153 6
Kobayashi 85 5.72 108.74 175 5
Massa 84 5.66 107.46 177 6
Hamilton 80 5.39 102.35 186 6
Alguersuari 65 4.38 83.16 228 5
Trulli 30 2.02 38.38 496 1
Perez 28 1.89 35.82 531 3
Buemi 25 1.68 31.98 595 2
Button 20 1.35 25.59 744 2
Petrov 20 1.35 25.59 744 1
Maldonado 10 0.67 12.79 1488 1
Kovalainen 5 0.34 6.40 2976 1
Sutil 5 0.34 6.40 2976 1
d'Ambrosio 1 0.07 1.28 14880 1
di Resta 1 0.07 1.28 14880 1
Glock 1 0.07 1.28 14880 1
Karthikeyan 1 0.07 1.28 14880 1
Liuzzi 1 0.07 1.28 14880 1

We can't have totally unrated seats can we?!

[UreaBorealis]

Petrov 20
Massa 20
Hamilton 20
Heidfeld 15
Alonso 15
Buemi 10

[August]

Vettel 20
Webber 20
Alonso 20
Massa 20
Schumacher 5
Rosberg 5
Heidfeld 3
Barrichello 3
Kobayashi 2
Buemi 2

Edited by August, 23 March 2011 - 15:13.

[Makarias]

Maximum TEN drivers, August!

[Anderis]

Massa 35
Webber 25
Button 15
Buemi 11
Petrov 10
Kovalainen 2
Trulli 2

Now it should be all right.;)

Rubinho is very popular driver in this game.

Edited by Anderis, 23 March 2011 - 13:47.

[scheivlak]

Massa 20
Button 20
Petrov 20
Vettel 15
Rosberg 10
Alonso 8
Perez 5
Kovalainen 2

[Makarias]

Update:

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Vettel 289 15.36 291.89 65 14
Alonso 242 12.86 244.42 77 13
Webber 212 11.27 214.12 88 11
Massa 156 8.29 157.56 120 9
Heidfeld 139 7.39 140.39 135 9
Rosberg 116 6.17 117.16 162 10
Barrichello 113 6.01 114.13 166 8
Schumacher 102 5.42 103.02 184 7
Hamilton 100 5.32 101.00 188 7
Kobayashi 87 4.62 87.87 216 6
Petrov 70 3.72 70.70 269 4
Button 67 3.56 67.67 281 5
Alguersuari 65 3.46 65.65 289 5
Buemi 48 2.55 48.48 392 5
Perez 33 1.75 33.33 571 4
Trulli 32 1.70 32.32 589 2
Maldonado 10 0.53 10.10 1884 1
Kovalainen 9 0.48 9.09 2094 3
Sutil 5 0.27 5.05 3769 1
d'Ambrosio 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1
di Resta 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1
Glock 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1
Karthikeyan 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1
Liuzzi 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1

More players please!

[Estwald]

Changing my entry Mak

Alonso 20
Vettel 20
Schumacher 20
Barrichello 10
Heidfeld 10
Button 10
Sutil 5
Maldonado 5

[Apex]

Ok, time to change my entry.

Buemi 10
Hamilton 15
Button 20
Perez 5
Maldonado 10
Massa 10
Rosberg 15
Sutil 5
di Resta 5
Kovalainen 5

[kismet]

Schumacher 20
Massa 20
Rosberg 20
Heidfeld 20
Button 10
Barrichello 10

[Dispenser89]

Webber 20
Alonso 20
Heidfeld 15
Alguersuari 10
Barrichello 10
Button 10
Kobayashi 10
Kovalainen 5

[Brawn BGP 001]

Button 25
Rosberg 20
Vettel 20
Alonso 15
Hamilton 10
Perez 10

[LB]

Vettel 20
Rosberg 20
Webber 20
Heidfeld 10
Di Resta 15
Sutil 10
Buemi 5

[Grayson]

Hmm... At a risk of falling massively behind after Round 1 if the McLaren turns out to be as slow as everyone thinks, I'll go for this:

Button 25
Hamilton 25
Vettel 15
Rosberg 10
Webber 10
Massa 10
Sutil 5

[brunopascal]

Alonso 15
Vettel 15
Schumacher 15
Massa 15
Webber 15
Hamilton 15
Rosberg 10

Edited by brunopascal, 24 March 2011 - 20:31.

[Anderis]

My another new entry.
Massa 35
Webber 25
Schumacher 13
Buemi 13
Maldonado 10
Kovalainen 2
Trulli 2

[_tr]

Heidfeld 25
Petrov 20
Massa 18
Webber 17
Buemi 10
Alguersuari 10

[Makarias]

Terribly sorry, I would have posted an update earlier tonight if my computer hadn't been hit by malware tonight:

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Vettel 349 13.56 257.59 73 17
Webber 294 11.42 216.99 87 16
Alonso 292 11.34 215.52 88 16
Massa 219 8.51 161.64 117 13
Rosberg 201 7.81 148.35 128 15
Heidfeld 199 7.73 146.88 129 12
Hamilton 155 6.02 114.40 166 10
Schumacher 150 5.83 110.71 171 10
Barrichello 133 5.17 98.16 193 10
Button 132 5.13 97.43 195 8
Kobayashi 97 3.77 71.59 265 7
Petrov 80 3.11 59.05 322 4
Alguersuari 75 2.91 55.36 343 6
Buemi 65 2.53 47.98 396 7
Perez 38 1.48 28.05 678 5
Trulli 32 1.24 23.62 806 2
Sutil 25 0.97 18.45 1031 4
di Resta 21 0.82 15.50 1228 3
Maldonado 20 0.78 14.76 1289 2
Kovalainen 19 0.74 14.02 1357 5
d'Ambrosio 1 0.04 0.74 25792 1
Glock 1 0.04 0.74 25792 1
Karthikeyan 1 0.04 0.74 25792 1
Liuzzi 1 0.04 0.74 25792 1

Still some 80 minutes left before the Melbourne deadline! The excitement!

[swiniodzik]

Vettel 25
Webber 23
Heidfeld 20
Schumacher 17
Hamilton 15

[Makarias]

Just for fun, round scores based on the starting grid:

Name Score 1 Vett 2 Hami 3 Webb 4 Butt 5 Alon 6 Petr 7 Rosb 8 Mass 9 Koba 10 Buem
Grayson 193110 27750 75600 13200 64200 0 0 7680 4680 0 0
Brawn BGP 001 160000 37000 30240 0 64200 13200 0 15360 0 0 0
scheivlak 154710 27750 0 0 51360 7040 51520 7680 9360 0 0
UreaBorealis 138520 0 60480 0 0 13200 51520 0 9360 0 3960
Crazy Canuck 130750 64750 0 39600 0 26400 0 0 0 0 0
swiniodzik 121970 46250 45360 30360 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
brunopascal 120810 27750 45360 19800 0 13200 0 7680 7020 0 0
Apex 116880 0 45360 0 51360 0 0 11520 4680 0 3960
mark f1 111450 27750 30240 26400 0 13200 0 11520 2340 0 0
Makarias 105504 0 39312 44880 0 0 0 13824 7488 0 0
Costaz 100180 55500 0 0 0 26400 0 7680 0 10600 0
Ali_G 98804 55500 0 11880 0 17600 0 13824 0 0 0
sir jackie walker 97880 37000 0 0 0 0 51520 0 9360 0 0
August 96052 37000 0 26400 0 17600 0 3840 9360 1060 792
Wlleiotl 93770 37000 0 26400 0 8800 0 7680 0 7950 5940
theTardis 88900 33300 0 13200 25680 16720 0 0 0 0 0
_tr 86344 0 0 22440 0 0 51520 0 8424 0 3960
KWSN -DSM 84560 37000 0 13200 0 22000 0 7680 4680 0 0
fisichella_2001 83720 18500 30240 13200 0 8800 0 7680 0 5300 0
jeze 83380 0 60480 0 0 17600 0 0 0 5300 0
LB 80740 37000 0 26400 0 0 0 15360 0 0 1980
Dispenser89 74980 0 0 26400 25680 17600 0 0 0 5300 0
Estwald 54600 37000 0 0 0 17600 0 0 0 0 0
Anderis 54528 0 0 33000 0 0 0 0 16380 0 5148
kismet 50400 0 0 0 25680 0 0 15360 9360 0 0
Nustang70 15900 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15900 0

But who wants eff all to happen during the race?

[Grayson]

But who wants eff all to happen during the race?

Mostly me, now that you've posted that table!

It's looking like my faith in McLaren might just pay off, though it's far too early to say what their race pace might be like. And my "Place the Points" prediction leaving Hamilton as WDC will probably still look optimistic even if he somehow finishes ahead of Vettel tomorrow morning!

[Makarias]

In typical PTPC fashion, I bet this year's McLaren disbelievers hate the game already!

[Crazy Canuck]

Yes, I wish I had a bit of Button.

CC

eek, that came out wrong....

[Estwald]

Just for fun, round scores based on the starting grid:

Name Score 1 Vett 2 Hami 3 Webb 4 Butt 5 Alon 6 Petr 7 Rosb 8 Mass 9 Koba 10 Buem
Grayson 193110 27750 75600 13200 64200 0 0 7680 4680 0 0
Brawn BGP 001 160000 37000 30240 0 64200 13200 0 15360 0 0 0
scheivlak 154710 27750 0 0 51360 7040 51520 7680 9360 0 0
UreaBorealis 138520 0 60480 0 0 13200 51520 0 9360 0 3960
Crazy Canuck 130750 64750 0 39600 0 26400 0 0 0 0 0
swiniodzik 121970 46250 45360 30360 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
brunopascal 120810 27750 45360 19800 0 13200 0 7680 7020 0 0
Apex 116880 0 45360 0 51360 0 0 11520 4680 0 3960
mark f1 111450 27750 30240 26400 0 13200 0 11520 2340 0 0
Makarias 105504 0 39312 44880 0 0 0 13824 7488 0 0
Costaz 100180 55500 0 0 0 26400 0 7680 0 10600 0
Ali_G 98804 55500 0 11880 0 17600 0 13824 0 0 0
sir jackie walker 97880 37000 0 0 0 0 51520 0 9360 0 0
August 96052 37000 0 26400 0 17600 0 3840 9360 1060 792
Wlleiotl 93770 37000 0 26400 0 8800 0 7680 0 7950 5940
theTardis 88900 33300 0 13200 25680 16720 0 0 0 0 0
_tr 86344 0 0 22440 0 0 51520 0 8424 0 3960
KWSN -DSM 84560 37000 0 13200 0 22000 0 7680 4680 0 0
fisichella_2001 83720 18500 30240 13200 0 8800 0 7680 0 5300 0
jeze 83380 0 60480 0 0 17600 0 0 0 5300 0
LB 80740 37000 0 26400 0 0 0 15360 0 0 1980
Dispenser89 74980 0 0 26400 25680 17600 0 0 0 5300 0
Estwald 54600 37000 0 0 0 17600 0 0 0 0 0
Anderis 54528 0 0 33000 0 0 0 0 16380 0 5148
kismet 50400 0 0 0 25680 0 0 15360 9360 0 0
Nustang70 15900 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15900 0

But who wants eff all to happen during the race?

Not that it matters at this point, but I think you missed my updated entry as I should be scoring something for Button in this hypothetical

[Makarias]

Thanks for noticing, Estwald! Going through the first thread is a bit chaotic for me.
Fixed it! Results up soon!