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#1 HistoryFan

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:23

Which team mates drove the most F1 WC races together?

We have Schumacher/Barrichello with Ferrari, Häkkinen/Coulthard with McLaren, but then?

Berger and Alesi 77 with Ferrari and Benetton
Mansell and De Angelis 59 with Lotus
Capelli and Gugelmin 58 with March

Has someone a top-10 list?


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#2 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:40

Perhaps you might like to revisit your earlier thread on this subject:

Long-term team-mates

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#3 kayemod

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:41

Inevitably, the much greater number of races in recent years mean that older pairings aren't going to feature much, but I expect that in Tour de France parlance, the winner by a country mile will be Schumacher/Domestique.

#4 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:58

You can now add Button and Barrichello - 70 (?) races 2006 - 09.

#5 HistoryFan

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:23

Perhaps you might like to revisit your earlier thread on this subject:

Long-term team-mates

:)


Sorry :blush:
But three years ago with no top-10-list...

Perhaps Barrichello/Irvine and Schumacher/Irvine are candidates
R Schumacher/Montoya

#6 IanRobinson

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 12:27

What about Stewart and Cevert; Hulme and McLaren; Andretti and Peterson...?

#7 LittleChris

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 15:04

Andretti and Peterson...?


Only around 20 I'd have thought ? A couple early in 1976 before Ronnie went to March and most of 1978 ( plus outside F1 their time together in the Ferrari sportscar team in 1972 )


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Posted 17 March 2011 - 15:38

Lauda-Regazzoni 1974-76
Coulthard-Hakkinen 1996-01
Depailler-Scheckter 1974-76
Lauda-Watson 1978 and 1982-83



#9 ryan86

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 15:46

Heidfeld/Kubica have 56 races (and I guess are now "team-mates" again, though one isn't racing).



#10 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 15:57

Only around 20 I'd have thought ? A couple early in 1976 before Ronnie went to March and most of 1978 ( plus outside F1 their time together in the Ferrari sportscar team in 1972 )

... plus (possibly) the two races they did together in March 701s in 1970.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 17:40

So from all drivers mentioned in both threads, I have this top-10-list:
1. Michael Schumacher – Rubens Barrichello 104
2. Mika Häkkinen – David Coulthard 99
3. Gerhard Berger – Jean Alesi 79
4. Jenson Button – Rubens Barrichello 70
5. Juan-Pablo Montoya – Ralf Schumacher 61
6. Nigel Mansell – Elio de Angelis 59
7. Ivan Capelli – Mauricio Gugelmin 58
8. Michael Schumacher – Eddie Irvine 57
9. Niki Lauda – Clay Regazzoni 56
9. Robert Kubica – Nick Heidfeld 56


#12 D-Type

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 20:06

And just what does that show? With the present 19 race championship, drivers drive more races with the same teammate than they did when the championship comprised a mere 7 races.

Now, if you had calculated the time between a pairing's first and last races together you might have a more significant list.

#13 LittleChris

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 21:04

... plus (possibly) the two races they did together in March 701s in 1970.


Forgot about that Tim. Though I'd say that, as they drove for different privateer teams,they weren't team mates.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 22:55

And just what does that show? With the present 19 race championship, drivers drive more races with the same teammate than they did when the championship comprised a mere 7 races.

Now, if you had calculated the time between a pairing's first and last races together you might have a more significant list.

Yes quite.
Lists of this sort are inevitably futile. Racing hours might go some way to restoring the balance since races dropped below 3 hours for 1958 . . .
Are there really 19 races these days - no wonder none of them stick in my memory for more than a few days whereas the 1958 season (which I couldn't watch on TV) is still there!

#15 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 23:48

Forgot about that Tim. Though I'd say that, as they drove for different privateer teams,they weren't team mates.

Good question, innit? (Sorry)

I regard the Peterson car as a works effort - Ronnie's contract was with March, and March owned the car, but farmed out the actual running of it to Antique Automobiles. The Granatelli car was more of a private entry, but seeing as Granatelli and STP were so closely tied in with the works team at the time ... :confused:

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 00:18

The Gugelmin/Capelli pairing stands out. With the exception of Barrichello/Button, the others were either continuously successful or at least working towards the front. Very rare to see a team stick with drivers that long especially in the midfield.

#17 LittleChris

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 00:25

Good question, innit? (Sorry)

I regard the Peterson car as a works effort - Ronnie's contract was with March, and March owned the car, but farmed out the actual running of it to Antique Automobiles. The Granatelli car wass more of a private entry, but seeing as Granatelli and STP were so closely tied in with the works team at the time ... :confused:


Didn't Colin Crabbe have to sort out the engine(s) independently though ( which I believe led to at least one non appearance that season ) ? Oh and I don't think there should be a comma before innit ( just to be pedantic !! ) :p

Edited by LittleChris, 18 March 2011 - 00:25.


#18 Tim Murray

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 00:45

Oh and I don't think there should be a comma before innit ( just to be pedantic !! ) :p

I naturally bow to your superior knowledge on these matters innit.

(How's that? :rotfl: )

#19 LittleChris

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 00:53

I naturally bow to your superior knowledge on these matters innit.

(How's that? :rotfl: )


need a gap between the t and the ? dontcha :rotfl:

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#20 Tim Murray

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 01:02

Now you've lost me. :confused:

#21 LittleChris

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 01:45

Now you've lost me. :confused:


Was taught at school that there should be a gap between the last letter of a sentence and any exclamation or question mark etc.

Mind you, according to the Blood Pressure thread, I should probably adressing you as Ye !! :rolleyes: :D


#22 Tim Murray

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 01:58

It is, I believe, correct usage in French to have a space before question marks and exclamation marks, but I'm not aware of it ever having been correct usage in English.

http://www.learnengl...tuationtext.htm

http://english.stack...n-it-be-correct

and my 1998 edition of Fowler, whilst making no specific pronouncement on the subject, has no spaces before its question marks and exclamation marks.

#23 LittleChris

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 02:48

Mademoiselle des Essarts reckoned I had it right :p A bientot ! :p