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[Brian O Flaherty]

Sauber's subsequent disqualification from the race result has had quite an effect on the final standings. Jamiebavfc has jumped out to a 57pt lead after a very strong performance from his lower order drivers. 59 from Sutil & 70 from Glock + a sterling performance from Hamilton means he steals a march on everyone after race one. Reigning champion August was one of many badly affected by the Sauber issue. DWRacers' score was made all the more impressive by having a HRT driver in Liuzzi in his team! Poor Penguin has already been cut adrift after only Alonso & Toro Rosso got him any points of note. Next up is Sepang in 2 weeks time. Hopefully Sauber & HRT can get themselves in order. Stay tuned for the updated price list so that anyone who wants to make changes can make them.

AUSTRALIA RESULT
Pos Name (Overall)			Team										   Score Pts					
1   JAMIEBAVFC (1)			HOT WHEELS 2								   709   188/145/59/70/66/181/0 
2   DWRacers (2)			  Thistle DW Racing							  652   208/145/10/8/41/200/40 
3   Osiris (3)				Team Big Balls								 646   188/145/19/22/31/181/60
4   Stephen (4)			   Red Balls									  641   148/145/19/70/134/125/0
5   Skylark68 (5)			 Skylark F1									 636   150/78/69/81/58/200/0  
6   yicm (6)				  South Philly Racing							628   150/145/51/8/58/216/0  
7   Osiris(boy) (7)		   Team Regular Bros							  605   138/100/12/89/26/200/40
8   Wlleiotl (8)			  Unsuitable Team Name						   600   102/89/19/16/134/200/40
9   kkr (9)				   kkrAllstar									 598   148/100/20/89/41/200/0 
10  EssexVilla (10)		   Cunning Stunts Racing						  592   107/130/51/73/66/125/40
11  Makarias (11)			 Insomnia									   589   150/89/22/8/134/186/0  
12  Anderis (12)			  F1 Investigator								583   208/43/8/70/58/196/0   
13  Knoppy1987 (13)		   Schumi7's									  565   150/78/18/89/49/181/0  
14  Apex (14)				 Another Winning Combination					561   73/89/22/22/134/181/40 
15  Dunderdude (15)		   Quake Racing								   557   208/92/12/18/41/186/0  
16  BOF (16)				  Dublin Diffuser								556   208/0/10/81/76/181/0   
17  Ed of all everywhere (17) Fast Spud...								   550   150/92/51/70/49/98/40  
18  TonyH (18)				Trulli Awful								   539   138/24/49/81/31/216/0  
19  Gingerlad (19)			Red Racers									 533   150/78/49/7/49/200/0   
20  SoapyD (20)			   Red Water Rocketry							 530   150/92/22/59/26/181/0  
21  Don Speekingleesh (21)	Don's Dodgers								  527   73/141/59/22/134/98/0  
22  August (22)			   August Racing								  520   150/145/10/81/134/0/0  
23  Philadelphian (23)		Park it at Rascasse Racing					 514   138/78/19/22/31/186/40 
24  Maloneyt (24)			 Mario Kart									 501   126/36/22/70/31/216/0  
25  ianrobo (25)			  The Roaring Robo's							 498   138/92/59/18/66/125/0  
26  Costaz (26)			   Team Costaz F1								 496   208/36/8/70/134/0/40   
27  matt_carter (27)		  Red5										   478   138/36/13/59/134/98/0  
28  Choffer (28)			  Aston Butterworth II						   477   64/0/8/85/134/186/0	
29  Dispenser89 (29)		  That Team									  468   148/89/13/29/31/98/60  
30  Tubby (30)				Isle of Mansell								466   73/43/22/16/66/186/60  
31  Osiris(wifey) (31)		Team Fabulous Tooshies!						460   148/78/10/81/66/77/0   
32  brunopascal (32)		  Tachyos										459   57/92/54/22/76/98/60   
33  Wiganvillain (33)		 Alfisti 2									  456   22/74/12/8/134/206/0   
34  Al Quinn (34)			 VROOOOOOOM									 451   148/0/49/7/31/216/0	
35  Ryan. (35)				A. Sutil pun								   450   73/92/22/89/134/0/40   
36  fisichella_2001 (36)	  Mark's Sparks								  449   126/0/22/29/134/98/40  
37  dodgyknees (37)		   Elf One Racing								 440   138/92/20/81/49/0/60   
38  Grayson (38)			  Gracing										431   73/0/59/85/76/98/40	
39  Stevo985 (39)			 Stevo's Slippery Sidewinding Superstar Sexbots 424   126/92/8/24/134/0/40   
40  LancsVillan (40)		  Compromice Villa							   419   150/78/10/7/134/0/40   
41  Pat Byrne (41)			Mullingar Maulers							  411   126/100/10/22/76/77/0  
42  Sir Jackie Walker (42)	Il Principe Abate Rampante					 409   150/89/13/81/76/0/0	
43  pdac (43)				 T.A.S.K.									   406   150/25/7/81/26/77/40   
44  Brawn BGP 001 (44)		South of the Border							404   208/78/18/29/31/0/40   
45  Briggaman (45)			Boullier Out								   388   208/0/10/81/49/0/40	
45  Jeze (45)				 Zenk Racing									388   150/92/18/22/66/0/40   
47  AVFCDAN (47)			  Schumi's Razor								 387   73/92/59/29/134/0/0	
48  CardiffGreens (48)		KERS Matthews & the Ballad of Tony Fernandes   380   73/92/22/29/66/98/0	
49  tamuff_villa (49)		 Tamuff GP									  364   64/115/59/8/58/0/60	
50  scheivlak (50)			Team Septopus								  358   64/89/13/18/134/0/40   
51  Penguin (51)			  TschoppsF1									 249   150/0/19/22/58/0/0

OVERALL STANDINGS (Australia)
Pos Name				 Team Name									  Score Race Gap  Jump # Cha
1   JAMIEBAVFC		   HOT WHEELS 2								   709   709  --   --	  
2   DWRacers			 Thistle DW Racing							  652   652  +57  --	  
3   Osiris			   Team Big Balls								 646   646  +63  --	  
4   Stephen			  Red Balls									  641   641  +68  --	  
5   Skylark68			Skylark F1									 636   636  +73  --	  
6   yicm				 South Philly Racing							628   628  +81  --	  
7   Osiris(boy)		  Team Regular Bros							  605   605  +104 --	  
8   Wlleiotl			 Unsuitable Team Name						   600   600  +109 --	  
9   kkr				  kkrAllstar									 598   598  +111 --	  
10  EssexVilla		   Cunning Stunts Racing						  592   592  +117 --	  
11  Makarias			 Insomnia									   589   589  +120 --	  
12  Anderis			  F1 Investigator								583   583  +126 --	  
13  Knoppy1987		   Schumi7's									  565   565  +144 --	  
14  Apex				 Another Winning Combination					561   561  +148 --	  
15  Dunderdude		   Quake Racing								   557   557  +152 --	  
16  BOF				  Dublin Diffuser								556   556  +153 --	  
17  Ed of all everywhere Fast Spud...								   550   550  +159 --	  
18  TonyH				Trulli Awful								   539   539  +170 --	  
19  Gingerlad			Red Racers									 533   533  +176 --	  
20  SoapyD			   Red Water Rocketry							 530   530  +179 --	  
21  Don Speekingleesh	Don's Dodgers								  527   527  +182 --	  
22  August			   August Racing								  520   520  +189 --	  
23  Philadelphian		Park it at Rascasse Racing					 514   514  +195 --	  
24  Maloneyt			 Mario Kart									 501   501  +208 --	  
25  ianrobo			  The Roaring Robo's							 498   498  +211 --	  
26  Costaz			   Team Costaz F1								 496   496  +213 --	  
27  matt_carter		  Red5										   478   478  +231 --	  
28  Choffer			  Aston Butterworth II						   477   477  +232 --	  
29  Dispenser89		  That Team									  468   468  +241 --	  
30  Tubby				Isle of Mansell								466   466  +243 --	  
31  Osiris(wifey)		Team Fabulous Tooshies!						460   460  +249 --	  
32  brunopascal		  Tachyos										459   459  +250 --	  
33  Wiganvillain		 Alfisti 2									  456   456  +253 --	  
34  Al Quinn			 VROOOOOOOM									 451   451  +258 --	  
35  Ryan.				A. Sutil pun								   450   450  +259 --	  
36  fisichella_2001	  Mark's Sparks								  449   449  +260 --	  
37  dodgyknees		   Elf One Racing								 440   440  +269 --	  
38  Grayson			  Gracing										431   431  +278 --	  
39  Stevo985			 Stevo's Slippery Sidewinding Superstar Sexbots 424   424  +285 --	  
40  LancsVillan		  Compromice Villa							   419   419  +290 --	  
41  Pat Byrne			Mullingar Maulers							  411   411  +298 --	  
42  Sir Jackie Walker	Il Principe Abate Rampante					 409   409  +300 --	  
43  pdac				 T.A.S.K.									   406   406  +303 --	  
44  Brawn BGP 001		South of the Border							404   404  +305 --	  
45  Briggaman			Boullier Out								   388   388  +321 --	  
45  Jeze				 Zenk Racing									388   388  +321 --	  
47  AVFCDAN			  Schumi's Razor								 387   387  +322 --	  
48  CardiffGreens		KERS Matthews & the Ballad of Tony Fernandes   380   380  +329 --	  
49  tamuff_villa		 Tamuff GP									  364   364  +345 --	  
50  scheivlak			Team Septopus								  358   358  +351 --	  
51  Penguin			  TschoppsF1									 249   249  +460 --

MEDAL TABLE
Pos   Name		 Team				G   S   B   Tot   LPos
1	 Jamiebavfc   Hot wheels 2		1   0   0   5	 1   
2	 DWRacers	 Thistle DW Racing   0   1   0   3	 2   
3	 Osiris	   Team Big Balls	  0   0   1   1	 3

GOLD - Jamiebavfc (Hot wheels 2)
-------------------------
1 Lewis Hamilton	188
2 Vitaly Petrov	 145
3 Adrian Sutil	   59
4 Timo Glock		 70
C Renault			66
E Mercedes (FIF1)   181
B Ross Brawn		  0
-------------------------
TOTAL SCORE		 709


SILVER - DWRacers (Thistle DW Racing)
-------------------------
1 Sebastian Vettel  208
2 Adrian Sutil	  145
3 Timo Glock		 10
4 Vitantonio Liuzzi   8
C Force India		41
E Renault		   200
B Martin Whitmarsh   40
-------------------------
TOTAL SCORE		 652


BRONZE - Osiris (Team Big Balls)
-------------------------
1 Lewis Hamilton	188
2 Adrian Sutil	  145
3 Jaime Alguersuari  19
4 Heikki Kovalainen  22
C Williams		   31
E Mercedes (FIF1)   181
B Christian Horner   60
-------------------------
TOTAL SCORE		 646

POINTS FOR - Australia
Sebastian Vettel   - 208 / 145 / 135 /  95
Mark Webber		- 148 /  55 /  55 /  55
Lewis Hamilton	 - 188 / 130 / 116 /  76
Jenson Button	  - 138 /  50 /  46 /  46
Fernando Alonso	- 150 / 115 /  91 /  61
Felipe Massa	   - 126 /  55 /  35 /  45
Michael Schumacher -  64 /  25 /  20 /  20
Nico Rosberg	   -  73 /  67 /  64 /  24
Nick Heidfeld	  - 102 /  92 /  13 /  73
Vitaly Petrov	  - 158 / 145 /  95 /  85
Rubens Barrichello -  90 /  78 /  54 /  24
Pastor Maldonado   -  49 /  24 /  16 /  16
Adrian Sutil	   - 107 / 145 /  59 /  89
Paul di Resta	  - 108 /  74 /  19 /  59
Kamui Kobayashi	-  22 /   0 /  22 /  22
Sergio Pérez	   -  18 /   0 /  18 /  18
Jaime Alguersuari  - 109 /  43 /  19 /  29
Sébastien Buemi	- 118 / 100 /  69 /  49
Jarno Trulli	   -  98 / 141 /  51 /  81
Heikki Kovalainen  -  57 /  36 /  12 /  22
Narain Karthikeyan -   7 /   0 /   7 /   7
Vitantonio Liuzzi  -   8 /   0 /   8 /   8
Timo Glock		 -  88 /  89 /  10 /  70
Jérôme d'Ambrosio  -  93 / 150 /  49 /  89




CONSTRUCTOR POINTS
Red Bull	- 134
McLaren	 -  99
Ferrari	 -  76
Mercedes	-  49
Renault	 -  66
Williams	-  31
Force India -  41
Sauber	  -  26
Toro Rosso  -  58
Lotus	   -  26
HRT		 -   0
Virgin	  -  22



ENGINE POINTS
Renault (RBR)   - 216
Mercedes (McL)  - 206
Ferrari		 - 196
Mercedes		-  60
Renault		 - 200
Cosworth (Wil)  -  77
Mercedes (FIF1) - 181
Ferrari (Sau)   -   0
Ferrari (STR)   - 186
Renault (Lot)   -  98
Cosworth (HRT)  -   0
Cosworth (Vir)  - 125



TEAM BOSS POINTS
Christian Horner   -  60
Martin Whitmarsh   -  40
Stefano Domenicali -  40
Ross Brawn		 -   0
Eric Boullier	  -  40
Frank Williams	 -   0
Vijay Mallya	   -  40
Peter Sauber	   -   0
Franz Tost		 -  40
Tony Fernandes	 -   0
Colin Kolles	   -   0
John Booth		 -   0

[Brian O Flaherty]

NEW PRICE LIST

Changes.

DRIVERS
Petrov up to €18m
Buemi up to €16m
Perez up to €16m

CONSTRUCTORS
Sauber up to €11m
Toro Rosso up to €10m

ENGINES
Toro Rosso up to €26m
Force India up to €25m
Sauber up to €25m

----------------------------------------------------------
|DRIVER		 TEAM	COST  | CONSTRUCTOR   COST
|S.Vettel	  Red Bull  27   | Red Bull	   18
|F.Alonso	  Ferrari   26   | Ferrari		17
|M.Webber	  Red Bull  26   | McLaren		17
|L.Hamilton	McLaren   25   | Mercedes	   15
|J.Button	  McLaren   23   | Renault		13
|F.Massa	   Ferrari   22   | Williams	   11
|N.Rosberg	 Mercedes  21   | Sauber		 11
|M.Schumacher  Mercedes  20   | Force India	10
|N.Heidfeld	Renault   19   | Toro Rosso	 10
|R.Barrichello Williams  18   | Lotus		   7
|K.Kobayashi   Sauber	17   | Virgin		  7
|A.Sutil	   F.India   17   | HRT F1		  6
|J.Alguersuari T.Rosso   16   | ENGINE		COST
|V.Petrov	  Renault   18   | Ferrari		33
|S.Buemi	   T.Rosso   16   | Renault(RBR)   33
|P.di Resta	F.India   15   | Mercedes(McL)  32
|P.Maldonado   Williams  15   | Mercedes	   31
|H.Kovalainen  Lotus	 14   | Renault		27
|S.Pérez	   Sauber	16   | Cosworth(Wil)  26
|T.Glock	   Virgin	13   | Ferrari(STR)   26
|J.Trulli	  Lotus	 13   | Mercedes(FIF1) 25
|J.d'Ambrosio  Virgin	12   | Ferrari(Sau)   25
|HRT # 2	   HRT	   12   | Renault(Lot)   21
|N.Karthikeyan HRT	   11   | Cosworth(Vir)  19
|							 | Cosworth(HRT)  16
----------------------------------------------------------
|TEAM BOSS	  TEAM	COST	TEAM BOSS   TEAM	COST
|M.Whitmarsh   McLaren	6   S.Domenicali  Ferrari   6  
|C.Horner	  Red Bull   6   R.Brawn	   Mercedes  5
|F.Williams	Williams   5   E.Boullier	Renault   5
|P.Sauber	  Sauber	 4   V.Mallya	  F.India   4
|F.Tost		Toro Rosso 4   T.Fernandes   Lotus	 3
|C.Kolles	  HRT F1	 2   J.Booth	   Virgin	2
----------------------------------------------------------

[August]

Aarghh! If I calculated correctly I would've scored 708 point without Sauber disqualifications. Hopefully they'll have a successful appeal.

[pdac]

NEW PRICE LIST

Seems a bit harsh that you've only put things up (no reductions) when to substitute already costs 10% of what you paid. Is this the final price list for the whole season now?

[dundee]

How does it now work when with the new values many are now over budget? If a team is now over budget because of the adjustment and wants to sell eg Vettel, that player would sell at 27m*.9=24.3 but because some of his elements have a combined increase of 5m, does that then mean the player has only 19.3m with which to buy a replacement? Is a player able to remain over budget for the rest of the season? Just wondering.

[Brian O Flaherty]

Seems a bit harsh that you've only put things up (no reductions) when to substitute already costs 10% of what you paid. Is this the final price list for the whole season now?

It's the same as what happened last year and there were similar comments to last year's too. Yes this is the final price list.

Firstly, increase-only adjustments mean that people who bought someone won't have someone coming and buying them for less, it also means you can't sell someone and buy them immediately back at a lower price potentially getting yourself free money, and also, far more importantly, the main reason is that it benefits those who spotted a bargain before the season starts and prevents people jumping on what might now be a blindingly obvious bandwagon like Petrov, or as I called it last season "doing a Brawn...".

It's still possible to buy the element, it just has a more realistic valuation now.

Edited by Brian O Flaherty, 28 March 2011 - 11:34.

[Brian O Flaherty]

How does it now work when with the new values many are now over budget? If a team is now over budget because of the adjustment and wants to sell eg Vettel, that player would sell at 27m*.9=24.3 but because some of his elements have a combined increase of 5m, does that then mean the player has only 19.3m with which to buy a replacement? Is a player able to remain over budget for the rest of the season? Just wondering.

Modified values like Petrov or Perez have no bearing on someone's budget. The new price only affects people trying to buy him in. Someone who bought Petrov for €16m will be able to sell him for €16m(-10%). No team is 'over budget'.

Edited by Brian O Flaherty, 28 March 2011 - 11:16.

[pdac]

It's the same as what happened last year and there were similar comments to last year's too. Yes this is the final price list.

Firstly, increase-only adjustments mean that people who bought someone won't have someone coming and buying them for less, it also means you can't sell someone and buy them immediately back at a lower price potentially getting yourself free money, and also, far more importantly, the main reason is that it benefits those who spotted a bargain before the season starts and prevents people jumping on what might now be a blindingly obvious bandwagon like Petrov, or as I called it last season "doing a Brawn...".

It's still possible to buy the element, it just has a more realistic valuation now.

Oh well. I guess Petrov is effectivly 20m now as, raising the 18m to buy Petrov necessitates sales with a 10% loss on the deal. Thanks for clarifying this.

[Brian O Flaherty]

I know what you are saying but that goes for every driver you want to buy, not just Petrov. Buying Barrichello is also €18m and would require taking a hit on any sales too. Leaving Petrov at €16m would be foolish as he is clearly not a €16m driver. On the evidence of Australia, he's more an €18m driver than Barrichello is.