Ford Arrow/999 photo
#1
Posted 07 April 2011 - 15:58
Here's a NY Times article from Sep 13th 1903...
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#2
Posted 07 April 2011 - 16:22
#3
Posted 07 April 2011 - 16:34
Looks like it is in '999' spec'. Is this post accident as the rear wheel looks out of alignment? But in summary, no, not seen that before.
How did the Arrow differ from the 999? It looks like the front tyre is off too - and is there something amiss with the radiator - it looks different to other photos I've seen of it.
#4
Posted 07 April 2011 - 16:41
#5
Posted 11 April 2011 - 17:16
#6
Posted 11 April 2011 - 17:26
#7
Posted 12 April 2011 - 15:12
To me it looks like the same car as the first one I posted and shows how the first one has damage to the steering and radiator (and plumbing). So could it be Oldfield's car?
http://datagrange.co...s-year-of-1903/
#8
Posted 18 April 2011 - 17:52
Somebody sent me a fascinating image today which he found in a box of documents in the Milwaukee area. I believe it's The Ford Arrow, which later became the record setting 999. Has anyone else seen this image before?
Could the gentleman in waistcoat and hat, standing on the trailer next to the driver's seat, be Henry Ford?
Edited by Pullman99, 19 April 2011 - 08:53.
#9
Posted 18 April 2011 - 19:37
DCN
#10
Posted 18 April 2011 - 20:46
I'd like to know how restored the one in the Ford museum is. if it's the LA one then it wasn't that different after all. If it's the other one then that ought to be the one with the steering wheel that Ford himself used and it's been returned to it's original state.
As to the chap in the hat - it's hard to say but I think it's unlikely. Ford sold his share in the cars to Tom Cooper before they were ever raced and was busy forming the second version of the Ford Motor Co. I haven't come across any mention of his having been at any events. At this time the cars were referred to as Cooper-Fords or Cooper Gasoline Racers.
#11
Posted 19 April 2011 - 04:07
From what I gather, Henry Ford and Tom Cooper built two cars; one painted red the other yellow. Before they were sorted-out, Ford sold his interest in both cars to Tom Cooper. Copper, Barney Oldfield and Spider Huff got the red car running first and named it "999" after the record-setting steam locomotive. The yellow car, known as the Arrow, was later painted red and at times billed as "The Red Devil". The Arrow was also at times promoted or billed as "999" or later as the New 999. The Arrow & 999 can be distinguished by the intake manifolds.
According to Hans Tanner's book, The Racing Fords, the Bruno Seibel rebuild on 999 was completed by the William L. Hughsons Ford Dealership in San Francisco. The car looks very much the same today as it did then.
Mark
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