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#1 duby

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:31

hi all

i am doing a research for articall about the Nazi involvment in motorcycle racing in the 30's.

trying to look for info about the 30's era and the speed records attempts and grand prix racing .


thnx
duby

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#2 Paul Collins

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 20:01

Have you checked out a book called The Nazi TT? it was written a couple of years ago, available via link here :-

http://www.dukevideo...Nazi-TT-PB.aspx

Edited by Paul Collins, 18 April 2011 - 20:02.


#3 larryd

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 20:33

Have you checked out a book called The Nazi TT? it was written a couple of years ago, available via link here :-

http://www.dukevideo...Nazi-TT-PB.aspx


An appalling book

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#4 Russell Burrows

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 20:33

Have you checked out a book called The Nazi TT? it was written a couple of years ago, available via link here :-

http://www.dukevideo...Nazi-TT-PB.aspx

If the book is as sensationalist and inaccurate as the blurb, he might be better off giving it a miss.

Edited by Russell Burrows, 19 April 2011 - 19:13.


#5 Paul Collins

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 21:16

I havent read it, only seen it advertised, it was on my 'to do' list but based on the above reviews it doesnt sound like its worth buying then.

#6 Vitesse2

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 22:34

Amazon reviewers aren't impressed either!

https://www.amazon.c...r...5913&sr=1-1

#7 Herr Wankel

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:12

An appalling book

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Thanks Larry,you've saved me wasting my euros


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#8 Rennmax

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:14

hi all

i am doing a research for articall about the Nazi involvment in motorcycle racing in the 30's.

trying to look for info about the 30's era and the speed records attempts and grand prix racing .


thnx
duby


Hi Duby, I wonder what kind of Nazi involvment you are searching for. Is is moneywise or the ideological involvment or the pure results on the track ? Do you have the NSDAP and it's suborganisation NSKK, represented by Herrn Hühnlein in mind or Germany in general ? As far as I know, BMW, DKW and NSU didn't receive any funds from the NSDAP the way Mercedes and Auto-Union did. Possibly the reason why was that car racing called a lot more attention and reputation , the car people had more influence and the competion on the bike scene was more uncomfortable for the German squads with British manufacturers dominating the scene at least in the 'unblown' era

Edited by Rennmax, 19 April 2011 - 07:16.


#9 duby

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:27

thanks for all the replies.

RENMAX- this is what i really looking for. i started my research about Nazi involvment generally in motorsport (as this combined 2 of my interests - car racing and history) . i found alot of stuff about the mercedes & auto-union and their connections with the nazis.
then i realize that there is also motorcycle racing that i forgot...and i started to look for info.

i thought that the bike teams were just as the car teams as their connections with the NSDAP and the NSKK.
what i mainly look for is general information first about the teams, people and then about the races.

duby

#10 Vitesse2

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:15

Bikes aren't really my forte, but you'll find some interesting stuff - and photos - about the International Six Days Trial here: it's a British site, but should provide some research material. This link is to the 1938 event, but 1939 is also interesting.

http://www.speedtrac...o.uk/11130.html

Hühnlein is said to have been far more comfortable in the company of bikers than the racing drivers - the trophy for the 1939 6DT was even named after him! I have some more on this if you'd like it - and also on the DKW trip to Australia in 1937-38. PM me if you wish.

#11 rotrax

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 17:05

hi all

i am doing a research for articall about the Nazi involvment in motorcycle racing in the 30's.

trying to look for info about the 30's era and the speed records attempts and grand prix racing .


thnx
duby

Hi Duby, In 1970 I met George Meier who won the 1939 TT on the supercharged BMW twin.I sat on the bike in his Munich car and motorcycle showrooms. George was also an ISDT rider and as the motorcycle riders in all disiplines appeared to be serving military men at the period you are interested in military history may give some clues. Also check out the BMW museun in Munich. My freind Peter Zollner was the archivist for many years untill his retirement. Good Luck.

#12 taylov

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 17:23

hi all

i am doing a research for articall about the Nazi involvment in motorcycle racing in the 30's, trying to look for info about the 30's era and the speed records attempts and grand prix racing . thnx duby


Try and get/borrow a copy of the Nye/Weguelin "Motorfilms Quarterly" Volume 20 DVD which was issued in 2007. It has an original German language documentary on part of the 1938 racing season, some 26 mins long featuring the 1938 Avusrennen, German GP, and the motorbike German GP at the old Sachsenring. The Bike footage shows how close the relationship was with the political organisations of the day.

Tony

#13 duby

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 17:49

thank you all for all the help here and via mail.

well, know i have alot of reading and learning, thats great.


duby