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#801 mkoscevic

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:24

Great pace by Felipe this weekend. :up:

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#802 Konsta

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:46

Great pace by Felipe this weekend. :up:

:up:
What an invaluable asset to the Scuderia :)

#803 maximilian

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 14:25

Would someone like to compile a list of all the excuses of unlucky and inexplicable reasons why Felipe hasn't performed well? This weekend, it was the suddenly bad tires in qualifying, and let's see what he comes up with for the race, after finishing a presumptive 14th... :p

#804 Dolph

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 14:42

Kovalainen doesn't seem that interested to move (I may be wrong), Pastor will be kept by Williams, Di Resta I think FI will keep him, Hulkenberg not for a while

I would pick Felipe ahead of those because of experience, stability and right now he is pretty solid.


Solid how? Solid slow?

#805 topical

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 14:43

Once again Massa let the team down when they most needed him. It's just not good enough.

#806 Wheels23

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 14:48

Solid how? Solid slow?


Well he's helping Ferrari get 2nd place in the WCC which is helpful

And he hasn't retired in a while, so that's a positive. :drunk:

#807 jeze

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 14:55

:up:
What an invaluable asset to the Scuderia :)


Remembering your previous kind words about Felipe I see what you did there Konsta :p




#808 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 15:25

Once again the opportunity to out-qualify Alonso has flashed by Flippy in a second, it's really really sad..

#809 garoidb

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 16:45

Well he's helping Ferrari get 2nd place in the WCC which is helpful

And he hasn't retired in a while, so that's a positive. :drunk:


WCC points could count for a lot right now. He has being doing better on that score recently.

I imagine that Ferrari already know whether they are going to keep him or not. If not, is there any other opportunity possible for him for 2013? Or will he just retire at the age of 32?

#810 discover23

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:57

Great to see Felipe performing like this.. Its been a long time.. I can't wait to see in in the podium again.. :up:

#811 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:47

Finally! Congrats Felipe!

#812 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:48

Great stuff from Felipe, I'm glad to see him on the podium again!

#813 Konsta

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:52

Finally! Congrats Felipe!

I am willing to take some of my mean words back. Felipe did very well today.

#814 4L3X

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:54

Congrats Felipe!! Awesome job.

#815 Nonesuch

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:56

Felipe did a good job today. :) This needs to happen more often, obviously, but it was great to see him back on the podium! :up:

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:58

How nice of Ferrari to de-click the speed limiter on Massas's car after Alonso was out. They should do that more often.
Seriously, great effort from Massa, happy for him!



#817 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:00

Well done Felipe, turned it around after underperforming yesterday. Hope he can push on from this result and not fade away again..

#818 fnz

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:00

well done FM!

#819 Torsion

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:08

Very happy to see Felipe back on the podium. Well Done.

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#820 FenderJaguar

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:09

How nice of Ferrari to de-click the speed limiter on Massas's car after Alonso was out. They should do that more often.


The truth is out there!

#821 dreamer

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:14

I'm not a Massa fan but I was really happy to see him back to the podium.

#822 encircled

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:15

Great result from Felipe! Making the strategy work to get ahead of Kamui and Jenson!

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:20

Great result from Felipe! Making the strategy work to get ahead of Kamui and Jenson!


Massa did great today 10th to 2nd is an excellent effort. Happy for him.

#824 Hanzo

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:20

The truth is out there!



Indeed!

#825 Wheels23

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:03

Yay podium.

#826 string158

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:06

Massa drove really well today and has done recently. I wonder whether he's more relaxed and comfortable in the car due to a having signed a contract behind the scenes?

#827 sofarapartguy

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:10

One can wonder what Alonso would've done today.

Anyway, good result for Felipe.

#828 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:50

One can wonder what Alonso would've done today.

Anyway, good result for Felipe.

well, at most to finish 1 position ahead of where felipe has finished
looking at vettel's pace I doubt that was probable

#829 Massa

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 12:11

Since Silverstone :

Vettel 105 pts
Raikkonen 84 pts
Alonso 83 pts
Button 82 pts
Hamilton 64 pts
Massa 58 pts
Webber 43 pts
Grosjean 29 pts


It's good for Massa, but he have to be better.


#830 jeze

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 13:19

The qualifier Felipe Massa is still gone, but the race driver Felipe Massa is back :clap:

#831 Konsta

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 13:24

The qualifier Felipe Massa is still gone, but the race driver Felipe Massa is back :clap:

I have seriously retracted some of my earlier mean words towards FM but please do show when and where FM raced today. He had a fast car and he delivered but he didn't overtake anyone but backmarkers.

#832 jeze

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 13:27

I have seriously retracted some of my earlier mean words towards FM but please do show when and where FM raced today. He had a fast car and he delivered but he didn't overtake anyone but backmarkers.


Nice consistent pace over 53 laps, beating a Sauber car that was faster this weekend. His best race performance since the injury :up: He drove a stunning race at the Nürburgring a week before the accident back then.

#833 Massa

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 13:41

Sauber and Mclaren weren't faster. Massa did a great job in the first stint, he stay right behind Button and when Button and Kobayashi pit, he was way faster and put some good laps to take the 2nd place.

Great racecraft today.

#834 mkoscevic

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 21:06

:up:
What an invaluable asset to the Scuderia :)


He was a very valuable asset today with P2.

:wave:

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 21:18

Great job today. :up:

#836 Smile17

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 21:28

Just give Felipe Baby a good car and he will be there. Have to admit he got very lucky today, but nevertheless he showed he still has what it takes. If Ferrari could just produce a fast car for once, people will not believe their eyes.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 22:10

Nonsense. The Ferrari has been a good car since the start of the European season. Alonso has had seven podiums in that time, Massa one (his first in two years).

He's had a good run of results, but he has to fight for the title next year at the very least to undo these pathetic three years. Do you think he'll fight for the title?

Edited by Disgrace, 07 October 2012 - 22:11.


#838 DrF

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 22:51

If there's a seat going at Sauber he should consider taking it.

#839 Dolph

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 23:06

Great result by Massa again. However, as in Spa several of the frontrunners were wiped out at the first corner. 3 this time and 6 at Spa.

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#840 ryan86

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 23:08

Nonsense. The Ferrari has been a good car since the start of the European season. Alonso has had seven podiums in that time, Massa one (his first in two years).

He's had a good run of results, but he has to fight for the title next year at the very least to undo these pathetic three years. Do you think he'll fight for the title?


I'd say 75-80% of Alonso is what I'd expect. His previous years have been 57%, 46% and 35% (currently). Shorter term, how about trying to outscore Alonso from the Summer Break. He's got a 14 point lead to defend.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 23:40

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/19861243 Say what you like about his driving, Felipe remains one of the most likeable and honest drivers on the grid. Hope this result gives him good momentum going forward :up:

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 04:06

Very happy for Felipe!

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 07:55

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/19861243 Say what you like about his driving, Felipe remains one of the most likeable and honest drivers on the grid. Hope this result gives him good momentum going forward :up:

lolwut!?

Felipe? Honest? Every time shit happens there is someone or something else to blame - and a fat chance that Massa will accept the blame. If gets a good result - "I was awesome". If he doesn't - "the car/team/strategy/traffic/weather/etc/etc. wasn't good enough".

Edited by sofarapartguy, 08 October 2012 - 07:56.


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 15:17

Sauber management is much more sensible than Ferrari. Its ridicilous to make decisions based on few races when there are 20 in a season

It just looks like they are finding excuses to NOT drop him

Edited by tarmac, 08 October 2012 - 15:17.


#845 Massa

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 15:39

lolwut!?

Felipe? Honest? Every time shit happens there is someone or something else to blame - and a fat chance that Massa will accept the blame. If gets a good result - "I was awesome". If he doesn't - "the car/team/strategy/traffic/weather/etc/etc. wasn't good enough".



Give some example. At Singapore or at Suzuka, he said the car was fantastic.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 16:10

Sauber management is much more sensible than Ferrari. Its ridicilous to make decisions based on few races when there are 20 in a season

It just looks like they are finding excuses to NOT drop him



Guys...here's how it is....

Filipe is a nice guy. Everybody on the team likes him. He is part of the latin family. Nobody wants to drop him in the shit. He has been a loyal servant and should have been 2008 WDC in their opinion - they blame themselves for letting him down. Fernando likes him and his first thought on the podium was for Fernando. He had a terrible accident while driving for the team and has struggled to recover but is now finally doing so. They all now regret the "Fernando is faster than you" incident including Fernando. They know that SebVet is coming in 2014, so they want to give him another year to enable him to get another decent job. They know that he will perform much better in 2013, now that he has got his Mojo back....

Now just get over it. It is not the Ferrari way to shit on your own.

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#847 Jedi_F1

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 21:34

If he keeps on driving like in the last 3 GP's,
I have no problem Massa will stay for another year!
Even the 2nd half of his Belgian GP he was picking up speed and places...
perhaps he has his confidence back now,
let's hope he keeps on going like this!

But it like some here say.. a season is longer then 3 GP's!

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:04

If he keeps on driving like in the last 3 GP's,
I have no problem Massa will stay for another year!
Even the 2nd half of his Belgian GP he was picking up speed and places...
perhaps he has his confidence back now,
let's hope he keeps on going like this!

But it like some here say.. a season is longer then 3 GP's!


He has definitely earned a year of Sauber with his recent performances.

Absolutely no justification for him getting another year unless it is clear that it would be his last, before being replaced by Vettel or another high caliber driver. If not, then bring in Hulkenberg or some other moderately successful young driver.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:27

Problem is, when Fernando DNFs Massa is given a normal strategy. When Fernando is there, Massa is kept out late for the stops as traffic to slow the guys so ALO can get some advantage.

I hope he leaves Ferrari for some other place.

#850 molive

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:22

Massa again looking better in terms of pace in Korea, hopefully he can manage a good starting spot and not have to climb the field again...